wilai Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 VVD has handed in a transfer request. No mention of LFC specifically in his statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 minus 2 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 probably 'under orders' not to, could a second issue around him and liverpool present a prob? i'de more likely than not. However wouldnt think there's much doubt where he's gonna end up though, that is unless p.g down the road fancies him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, 3 minus 2 said: say its unfair on the defenders, is a little kind, other positions adapt to new formations, cb's seem to struggle, probaly as much to with the mind set of them being cb's in the first place ie strong big and that will do ect ect aint really totally the critera 4 new school formationa cbs. That's correct and there isn't too many of new school about yet, VVD being one of them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, wilai said: VVD has handed in a transfer request. No mention of LFC specifically in his statement. 28 minutes ago, 3 minus 2 said: probably 'under orders' not to, could a second issue around him and liverpool present a prob? i'de more likely than not. However wouldnt think there's much doubt where he's gonna end up though, that is unless p.g down the road fancies him. I think the only way they would sell to Liverpool was if a transfer request was issued, no need to put one in for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 ^ V true Bob, and it's cost him about 7m quid! Nothing to stop other teams bidding though so it may not be straightforward, especially if Soton still want to be difficult....dunno why they hate us though, we gave them 20 odd million for Lovren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 minus 2 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) fox tv reckon a liverpool representative in discussions with barca, 120 mil was the figure talked about , edit, sori to be the bearer of bad news Edited August 8, 2017 by 3 minus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 minus 2 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 On 07/08/2017 at 6:10 PM, wilai said: ^ V true Bob, and it's cost him about 7m quid! Nothing to stop other teams bidding though so it may not be straightforward, especially if Soton still want to be difficult....dunno why they hate us though, we gave them 20 odd million for Lovren and att he was as highly rated as vvd. just this one's 40 mil more,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 8 hours ago, 3 minus 2 said: fox tv reckon a liverpool representative in discussions with barca, 120 mil was the figure talked about , edit, sori to be the bearer of bad news You are not bearing any bad news, it's rubbish, no LFC representative is in a discussion to sell Coutinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Great way to ruin a good looking kit! Glad I have my (copy!) already. Hope the 25m gets spent! #notafan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Loving how many times the 'Barca representatives' have flown to Merseyside in the last few weeks. The papers are a total joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 14 hours ago, 3 minus 2 said: fox tv reckon a liverpool representative in discussions with barca, 120 mil was the figure talked about , edit, sori to be the bearer of bad news why would you watch fox tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: Loving how many times the 'Barca representatives' have flown to Merseyside in the last few weeks. The papers are a total joke. ace isn't it. they flew there yesterday while also being in germany to negotiate with dortmund at the same time. perhaps they've got doctor who on their staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I see we signed something at long last. Western union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: I see we signed something at long last. Western union. we've signed more marketing partners than we have players this summer. FSG in a nutshell that. carpetbagging gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, StevieH said: we've signed more marketing partners than we have players this summer. FSG in a nutshell that. carpetbagging gets. I wanted to give them a chance but I'm just shocked and appalled. I have lost count the number of times I've typed in "Liverpool transfer targets" and it's just dud city. I think klopp needs to man the <deleted> ck up and stop being mr nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: I wanted to give them a chance but I'm just shocked and appalled. I have lost count the number of times I've typed in "Liverpool transfer targets" and it's just dud city. I think klopp needs to man the <deleted> ck up and stop being mr nice guy. they've had plenty of chance and continued to show they're more about increasing the value of the asset they bought on the cheap than they are about running a football club and perhaps winning trophies. they've had huge undeserved leeway simply by not being hicks and gillett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, StevieH said: they've had plenty of chance and continued to show they're more about increasing the value of the asset they bought on the cheap than they are about running a football club and perhaps winning trophies. they've had huge undeserved leeway simply by not being hicks and gillett. Very odd behaviour thus far. Should be a range of targets if someone gets touchy like Southampton we should have other options lined up but not a bloody word. I'm having a hard time believing were really gonna spend before we sell. Klopp needs to be answerable too though he does not seem forceful enough at board level he has more cards to play and is not playing them. I'm sorry nous boy this is where Mourinho wins all day long, with the balls to voice concerns. He set his stall out and put it firmly in his boards hands and hey presto he has a new spine in his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Do you not understand that Kloppe is a coach? he believes he can take a player and coach them into the team, which is what made him a success previously. In the case of Kieta and VVD, he thinks he has the chance to add top quality to his team. Players who will walk in and make a difference. i don't want players who are there to make up the numbers. Watching pre-season i think that we have some young players who will add depth and, unlike many others, I was impressed with Moreno. I still think we need a CB and a DM, but I think we are Ok across the board otherwise. VVD would be great for us as long as he is the same when hecomes back from injury, but to say we are not trying for him is rubbish. It is clear that we will pay a record fee for him and also Kieta. Don't get me wrong, I think we need to sign more, but i want quality and players who will fit into Klopp's system. i do not want to waste money on players who will, in the end be no better that we have already. These youngsters already know how to play with our team and is why Kloppe is happy with them. trust the manager and stop slagging off FSG. Klopp is class, and FSG have clearly OK'd the money for players. If you support LFC; support them all, and stop running us down because you do not understand where the future lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, nellyp said: Do you not understand that Kloppe is a coach? he believes he can take a player and coach them into the team, which is what made him a success previously. In the case of Kieta and VVD, he thinks he has the chance to add top quality to his team. Players who will walk in and make a difference. i don't want players who are there to make up the numbers. Watching pre-season i think that we have some young players who will add depth and, unlike many others, I was impressed with Moreno. I still think we need a CB and a DM, but I think we are Ok across the board otherwise. VVD would be great for us as long as he is the same when hecomes back from injury, but to say we are not trying for him is rubbish. It is clear that we will pay a record fee for him and also Kieta. Don't get me wrong, I think we need to sign more, but i want quality and players who will fit into Klopp's system. i do not want to waste money on players who will, in the end be no better that we have already. These youngsters already know how to play with our team and is why Kloppe is happy with them. trust the manager and stop slagging off FSG. Klopp is class, and FSG have clearly OK'd the money for players. If you support LFC; support them all, and stop running us down because you do not understand where the future lies. Listen pal do the maths. Huddersfield have spent 40m just 7 less than LFC. Me, all I have said is Klopp should push for more signings and there is more than 2 options out there so stop with your jabbering about keita and vvd cos keita has died a death and vvd is the current laughing stock embarrassment in transfer history. Lay off the yabba mate. Happy with the squad???? Lightweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Rc2702 said: Listen pal do the maths. Huddersfield have spent 40m just 7 less than LFC. Me, all I have said is Klopp should push for more signings and there is more than 2 options out there so stop with your jabbering about keita and vvd cos keita has died a death and vvd is the current laughing stock embarrassment in transfer history. Lay off the yabba mate. Happy with the squad???? Lightweight As a supposed Liverpool fan you come across as an utter clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Meanwhile in real news. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-40877811 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 "Liverpool have rejected a bid of 100 million euros (£90m) from Barcelona for Brazil playmaker Philippe Coutinho.Barca's second bid for the 25-year-old...". Still not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Rc2702 said: Listen pal do the maths. Huddersfield have spent 40m just 7 less than LFC. Me, all I have said is Klopp should push for more signings and there is more than 2 options out there so stop with your jabbering about keita and vvd cos keita has died a death and vvd is the current laughing stock embarrassment in transfer history. Lay off the yabba mate. Happy with the squad???? Lightweight I have no idea why you are comparing us to Huddersfield, and you have no idea whether Kloppe is pushing for signings or not. personally I agree that he should get some more signings, but, as I stated, they need to be of a quality to slot into the squad and push somebody down the pecking order. Am I happy with the squad? No. i would;d like us to sign all the best players and have a stellar team. The thing is though, I don't believe signing a star that doesn't fit our style will create a quick fix. I agree that Kieta is a dead duck, but I used him as an example of the quality that Kloppe is looking for. I also agree that VVD is a bit of a farce, but i don't think that one is dead yet; though the Southampton board seem to be a huge stumbling block. This team have been together an extra year, and seem to be flourishing. Salah was an excellent signing and I would rather Solanke over Origi at the moment. We now have a left footed left back to challenge there, and are still in for VVD (though that is obviously an opinion). Kloppe is a top manager, and if you think he is happy with the team as is, then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. He wants us to win things and will have no doubts that he can improve us with the correct personnel, but he also knows (his track record shows this), that he can work with players and make them much better. Additions to the squad? Definitely a central defender to push Klavan down the pecking order while we work on Gomez (still fingers crossed for VVD), a DM, and somebody who is a Coutinhiolite. That would make me very happy but any of them would need to be able to play the formations we play in the way we play. Please could you drop Kloppe a line and let him know who is actually available that can do that. I'm sure he wold be very happy for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said: "Liverpool have rejected a bid of 100 million euros (£90m) from Barcelona for Brazil playmaker Philippe Coutinho.Barca's second bid for the 25-year-old...". Still not true? I'm not sure who said the last offer was not true. I think Couthino will move to Barcelona (after all it is most S.American players dream), I just hope that it is at the earliest next year. We have said that we don't want him to go and we don't need the money, so I just hope that Phil is happy enough with us to stick around for a bit as he has already said he is happy here. He has developed incredibly under Kloppe, and I think he will only get better and will be able to move in the future anyway. Barcelona use this as a tactic. They show their interest and make a bid and come back next year to get it over the line. I wouldn't blame him for having his head turned but, if we continue to improve, maybe he would like to win all hi trophies with us;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 hours ago, nellyp said: I'm not sure who said the last offer was not true. I think Couthino will move to Barcelona (after all it is most S.American players dream), I just hope that it is at the earliest next year. We have said that we don't want him to go and we don't need the money, so I just hope that Phil is happy enough with us to stick around for a bit as he has already said he is happy here. He has developed incredibly under Kloppe, and I think he will only get better and will be able to move in the future anyway. Barcelona use this as a tactic. They show their interest and make a bid and come back next year to get it over the line. I wouldn't blame him for having his head turned but, if we continue to improve, maybe he would like to win all hi trophies with us;) Playing that deeper role this season, is going to take him to the next level. The understanding with Salah already looks brilliant, Can't wait for the new season to start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellyp Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, BangrakBob said: Playing that deeper role this season, is going to take him to the next level. The understanding with Salah already looks brilliant, Can't wait for the new season to start. Nor me. I think Salah will bag a load of goals. he looks very impressive. I also thin Coutiho will flourish a bit deeper. I hope he continues his runs at the box too though. Onward and upward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) FSG have confirmed Coutinho not for sale. Him and Clyne will miss tomorrow's game and Tuesday with back problems Sturridge misses tomorrow. Danny Ings makes comeback tonight with <23s Be prepared for a bid from Burnley! Edited August 11, 2017 by wilai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Transfer request in according to Sky. Hero to zero in seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: Transfer request in according to Sky. Hero to zero in seconds. denied instantly by the club and by all journalists who don't work for sky and therefore have at least a little credibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) ^ Same journos now admitting a request has just gone in LFC stance not changed. Edited August 11, 2017 by wilai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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