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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

sterling's been brilliant at the point of the diamond since he first played there. he's much more than 'just' a winger already.

i think we're going to go hell for leather at city and all of coutinho, sterling, suarez and sturridge will play. and gerrard's going to be amazing and just own the match.

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well, let's see. but if city can come into a red cauldron on the anniversary of hillsborough and face down what is going to be a maelstrom of energy, attacking and biting at their heels and still come away with the three points, well they will have bloody earned it.

I'm enjoying every minute of the Hillsborough Inquests knowing that the truth is coming out, as sad as it is. My only regret is that the majority of those involved in the conspiracy to conceal the truth are dead.

An absolutely disgraceful and disgusting cover-up from start to finish and established from the top, i.e. the then Government, to the frontline policing of the day.

I can only hope that Liverpool land the title in this year of the Inquests in memoriam to those whose names have been dragged through the mud for the last twenty-five years.

There will be fireworks come the close of the inquests, believe me.

I'm so freaking angry.

http://hillsboroughinquests.independent.gov.uk/

i agree with you in regretting that a number of individuals involved are now dead and therefore unable to be punished, but the families, wives husbands, friends of the victims have been waiting 25 years for some kind of closure and if the inquest can give them that then thats far the most important thing. Who can imagine what its like waiting all those years just to learn the true facts behind the death of a loved one?

The names of the deceased that were involved will presumably/hopefully all be published and it would be fitting their legacies destroyed as i think this cover up went to the highest levels of government.

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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

sterling's been brilliant at the point of the diamond since he first played there. he's much more than 'just' a winger already.

i think we're going to go hell for leather at city and all of coutinho, sterling, suarez and sturridge will play. and gerrard's going to be amazing and just own the match.

We're not punchbags stevie. We will hit back you know.

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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

sterling's been brilliant at the point of the diamond since he first played there. he's much more than 'just' a winger already.

i think we're going to go hell for leather at city and all of coutinho, sterling, suarez and sturridge will play. and gerrard's going to be amazing and just own the match.

We're not punchbags stevie. We will hit back you know.

Flano will get sent off for an ill timed challenge within the first 20 minutes, Suarez will try to take a bite out of Kompany, and Sturridge will spend the rest of the match trying to pass the ball to himself.tongue.png

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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

sterling's been brilliant at the point of the diamond since he first played there. he's much more than 'just' a winger already.

i think we're going to go hell for leather at city and all of coutinho, sterling, suarez and sturridge will play. and gerrard's going to be amazing and just own the match.

We're not punchbags stevie. We will hit back you know.

oh i know mate. i wouldn't want it any other way. :)

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What Rodgers has done with Gerrard this season has been amazing, he's slowly turned him into a Pirlo type of player, hes probably creating more chances now then he ever did. Although i should say the style of football we play now probably helps him.

I daresay this will unleash another hissy fit, but as have said before, Hogson was the one who really initiated Gerrard's evolution into the player we see today, during the last world cup, when he used him so effectively. After that competition, I got it on the neck on here for stating my views that Gerrard was no longer best employed as a gunning forward, attacking, goal scoring midfielder, and would be better used by Liverpool, as he was used by England, in a more defensive role, further back, starting moves off. I was told I was stupid, or words to that effect, and that Gerrard would always be best in an attacking role, to which my response was, well, let's see where Liverpool play him then. I think we have our answer, do we not?
  • Capello was manager at the last world cup
  • A deeper role with England was only out of necessity to fit other players in to the starting line up
  • The last WC was 4 years ago when Gerrard was still a lethal attacking midfielder and it was still his best role
  • He has single handedly carried Liverpool through games and won games on his own as an attacking midfield/striker since the last WC. It's only the fact that LFC were in rapid decline via the previous owners that he didn't have the personnel around him to help excel or add credence.
  • The only reason he is playing in that role now for Liverpool is to fit him in to a team that attacks at a pace he couldn't keep up with at his age/stage of his career
  • This won't be a full-time role for too long, we will need to bring someone younger in next season.
If you'd have made those comments last season maybe but in my opinion 4 years ago was too soon.

I'd have to agree with comments regarding Rodgers influence, it is not a coincidence that he is getting the best out of every single player on that park and it is blatantly obvious the improvements in multiple players in that team.

My mistake. Apologies. I was talking about the Euros in 2012, not the World Cup in 2010. So, yes, i was making those comments last season.

The fact that i was talking about the England team under Hodgson, and was talking about the competition in which Gerrard played in a deeper role and played his best games for England, might have given the hint that i wasn't talking about 2010, a year in which we weren't managed by Hodgson, and a year in which Gerrard didn't play very well for England, but rather talking about 2012.

Aside from my mix up of World Cup and Euros, all my other points remain. Gerrard was the only player in 2012 the England team to make it in the UEFA team of the tournament, and that was in no small measure due to the role he was asked to play. Of course it was down to himself too, but Gerrard has always been a world class player, but he had never shown it in an England shirt up until then. Since that tournament, his career, which was starting to slide a bit and be questioned, has enjoyed something of a renaissance, with him playing some of his best ever football in my opinion.

Just been watching a documentary on Steve Gerrard and it reminded me to tell you that the highlighted comment is b o l l o x starting with Germany 1 England 5 wink.png

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What Rodgers has done with Gerrard this season has been amazing, he's slowly turned him into a Pirlo type of player, hes probably creating more chances now then he ever did. Although i should say the style of football we play now probably helps him.
I daresay this will unleash another hissy fit, but as have said before, Hogson was the one who really initiated Gerrard's evolution into the player we see today, during the last world cup, when he used him so effectively. After that competition, I got it on the neck on here for stating my views that Gerrard was no longer best employed as a gunning forward, attacking, goal scoring midfielder, and would be better used by Liverpool, as he was used by England, in a more defensive role, further back, starting moves off. I was told I was stupid, or words to that effect, and that Gerrard would always be best in an attacking role, to which my response was, well, let's see where Liverpool play him then. I think we have our answer, do we not?

  • Capello was manager at the last world cup
  • A deeper role with England was only out of necessity to fit other players in to the starting line up
  • The last WC was 4 years ago when Gerrard was still a lethal attacking midfielder and it was still his best role
  • He has single handedly carried Liverpool through games and won games on his own as an attacking midfield/striker since the last WC. It's only the fact that LFC were in rapid decline via the previous owners that he didn't have the personnel around him to help excel or add credence.
  • The only reason he is playing in that role now for Liverpool is to fit him in to a team that attacks at a pace he couldn't keep up with at his age/stage of his career
  • This won't be a full-time role for too long, we will need to bring someone younger in next season.
If you'd have made those comments last season maybe but in my opinion 4 years ago was too soon.

I'd have to agree with comments regarding Rodgers influence, it is not a coincidence that he is getting the best out of every single player on that park and it is blatantly obvious the improvements in multiple players in that team.

My mistake. Apologies. I was talking about the Euros in 2012, not the World Cup in 2010. So, yes, i was making those comments last season.

The fact that i was talking about the England team under Hodgson, and was talking about the competition in which Gerrard played in a deeper role and played his best games for England, might have given the hint that i wasn't talking about 2010, a year in which we weren't managed by Hodgson, and a year in which Gerrard didn't play very well for England, but rather talking about 2012.

Aside from my mix up of World Cup and Euros, all my other points remain. Gerrard was the only player in 2012 the England team to make it in the UEFA team of the tournament, and that was in no small measure due to the role he was asked to play. Of course it was down to himself too, but Gerrard has always been a world class player, but he had never shown it in an England shirt up until then. Since that tournament, his career, which was starting to slide a bit and be questioned, has enjoyed something of a renaissance, with him playing some of his best ever football in my opinion.

Just been watching a documentary on Steve Gerrard and it reminded me to tell you that the highlighted comment is b o l l o x starting with Germany 1 England 5 wink.png

Remember the game well. Don't particularly remember Gerrard being a stand out player of it. Take your word for it if you say he was.

Don't think though that it's much of a disputed fact that England's supposed dream midfield combination of Lampard and Gerrard was for the most part, and leaving aside some momentary flashes of brilliance, a dismal disappointment, with it shown time and again as a partnership that didn't work for whatever reason, but with no England manager brave enough to try something different, such as only playing one of them. Only occasion in which they ever really did was when one of them was injured. Remember Barry coming in to replace I think it was Lampard, and things looking much better. But then as soon as Lampard was fit again, back we reverted to the old dysfunctional duo.

Anyway, getting back to Gerrard himself, I think even he would admit his finest performances have come in his club shirt, and by the high standards he has set in that shirt, his international standards have been nothing like as good... and he hasn't been the only one of course.. a good number of other England so called stars who have also failed to deliver on great promise.

That was until the last Euros - I'll get the competition right this time - in which Hodgson did do something different with Gerrard that no prior England manager had done before. It worked fantastically and helped lay the foundations for the role he has played this season for Liverpool. His deeper role. No longer bombing forward into the box like he once did to great affect, but nonetheless, doing something pivotal for the team.

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Take it somewhere else guys, I couldn't <deleted> care less about mother****ing England and the <deleted> World Cup in the Liverpool thread.

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I think the words OFF TOPIC would suffice. Oh, and its not ****ing England you &lt;deleted&gt;smile.png

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How about this on topic stuff then:

'Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has warned Manchester City he will "unleash" the power of the Anfield crowd when they meet on Sunday.'

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26993608

Rixalex is of course ALWAYS right. Except when he's wrong.

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What an I wrong about this time then P45?

I questioned how much the anniversary would mean to most of the players on the pitch. Never said anything about the stands.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:21

Could be a damp squib then.

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"Well this is sport. Anything can happen.

I don't think the sad 25th anniversary business will make any difference though. Not enough players on the pitch for whom it means enough to affect them. And even if it does, doesn't usually translate into inspired performances, at least not judging by other games with historical significance of one sort or another that I've seen over the last few years.

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

Looks like you missed out the crowd effect. P45.

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I've been watching the talking heads a bunch this week, and there has been speculation that Rodgers might play Joe Allen rather than Coutinho. Sterling in the hole a bit. What do you think ?coffee1.gif

Sterling seems much more dangerous to me on the flank, but the idea was that Allen would provide better help defensively.

Gerrard versus Yaya also an interesting match up. Oooopah.

sterling's been brilliant at the point of the diamond since he first played there. he's much more than 'just' a winger already.

i think we're going to go hell for leather at city and all of coutinho, sterling, suarez and sturridge will play. and gerrard's going to be amazing and just own the match.

We're not punchbags stevie. We will hit back you know.

Flano will get sent off for an ill timed challenge within the first 20 minutes, Suarez will try to take a bite out of Kompany, and Sturridge will spend the rest of the match trying to pass the ball to himself.tongue.png

And the mean little dog predicts joy.thumbsup.gif

Yeah. I know, it's only a joke.biggrin.png

It's gonna bite you though.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:21

Could be a damp squib then.

Huh?biggrin.png.pagespeed.ce.XhpYJIv77v.png

"Well this is sport. Anything can happen.

I don't think the sad 25th anniversary business will make any difference though. Not enough players on the pitch for whom it means enough to affect them. And even if it does, doesn't usually translate into inspired performances, at least not judging by other games with historical significance of one sort or another that I've seen over the last few years.

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

Looks like you missed out the crowd effect. P45.

cheesy.gif

Didn't miss it. I questioned the effect the anniversary would have on the players. Didn't say they wouldn't be affected by the stands. They may well be.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:21

Could be a damp squib then.

Huh?biggrin.png.pagespeed.ce.XhpYJIv77v.png

"Well this is sport. Anything can happen.

I don't think the sad 25th anniversary business will make any difference though. Not enough players on the pitch for whom it means enough to affect them. And even if it does, doesn't usually translate into inspired performances, at least not judging by other games with historical significance of one sort or another that I've seen over the last few years.

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

Looks like you missed out the crowd effect. P45.

cheesy.gif

Didn't miss it. I questioned the effect the anniversary would have on the players. Didn't say they wouldn't be affected by the stands. They may well be.

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Pardon?

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:21

Could be a damp squib then.

Huh?biggrin.png.pagespeed.ce.XhpYJIv77v.png

"Well this is sport. Anything can happen.

I don't think the sad 25th anniversary business will make any difference though. Not enough players on the pitch for whom it means enough to affect them. And even if it does, doesn't usually translate into inspired performances, at least not judging by other games with historical significance of one sort or another that I've seen over the last few years.

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

Looks like you missed out the crowd effect. P45.

cheesy.gif

Didn't miss it. I questioned the effect the anniversary would have on the players. Didn't say they wouldn't be affected by the stands. They may well be.

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Pardon?

No, if anything is going to inspire the chaps, it'll be thoughts of personal glory within arms reach." Rixalex.

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People inspired by personal glory can also be driven on by the stands. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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So this Liverpool team doesn't give a sh1t about the club they play for ,the people that died following the club,only personal glory?

I must have had my head up the same ar$e0le (his) as Rixalex for the last 25 years, if that were true.

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All over twitter that Kompany pulled up in training and a doubt for tomorrow ? could all be a load of &lt;deleted&gt; tho' saai.gif

I just posted a pic on the City thread, it is true

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Just been readin the Liverpool echo, Liverpool have asked the fans to line anfield road at 11.45 tomo to welcome the lpool coach, bring flags and banners they said, what scouser is gunner be up then with all his paraphanalia lining the streets to gee the players on. Jf96..

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