Evidence On Relationship For Prospective Marriage To Aus

[Ozspike]

Ok now I am confused.

I read in some places on the DIMA website that for prospective marriage visa you need only proof that you have met as adults, then in other places it states that you need Evidence that your Relationship is Genuine and Continuing, with Evidence needed in 4 area's

1 financial aspects.

2 the nature of the household.

3 social context of the relationship.

4 the nature of your commitment to each other.

I think this is just refering to Spouse and interdependent visa's and as the prospective marriage visa is in the same (Partner Migration) section it has been put together. If we had all the info they are asking for we would be applying for a spouse visa already. We have got the 2 stat dec's from Ausies saying they confirm our relationship.

Can anyone who has been through this or works at DIMA clear this up for me.

Many thanks Spike & Pui

[Mighty Mouse]

You have apparently read the "Evidence of Relationship" page on their website.

One paragraph on this page states: " All relationships are different, so you should provide as much evidence as you can that you believe will support your claims."

The page then goes on to list some examples of proofs that you can offer.

If you put your mind to it, you could probably think of some more examples not listed on their page.

I suggest that you regard these requirement as being the norm for all partner visas, including tourist visas.

The main objective of submitting an application, is to bring your partner to Oz. With that in mind, you should be gathering as much pertinent evidence as you can to strengthen the application and to achieve the objective.

Whatever you submit for a minor visa, such as a tourist visa, can be used again later for your spouse visa application.

[markww]

Ok now I am confused.

I read in some places on the DIMA website that for prospective marriage visa you need only proof that you have met as adults, then in other places it states that you need Evidence that your Relationship is Genuine and Continuing, with Evidence needed in 4 area's

1 financial aspects.

2 the nature of the household.

3 social context of the relationship.

4 the nature of your commitment to each other.

I think this is just refering to Spouse and interdependent visa's and as the prospective marriage visa is in the same (Partner Migration) section it has been put together. If we had all the info they are asking for we would be applying for a spouse visa already. We have got the 2 stat dec's from Ausies saying they confirm our relationship.

Can anyone who has been through this or works at DIMA clear this up for me.

Many thanks Spike & Pui

Spike and Pui,

U cannot under estimate what the government requires of you at any stage! I applied for a fiance visa with my fiance in Jan '06 .... and mate we handed up 3.5kg of info.

it included:

emails, phonebills, letters sent to one another by post(including the envelopes), we got my parents, my grandparents and my friends to write stat decs, we also have photo's of nearly every min that we spent together, we have photo's with my friends and with my family in Australia, we also have photo's of me with her parents and her friends, we provided money transfers, we both wrote about how we arrange our finances.

we also included letters about our future plans together, about what we want to achieve together, family life, realistic views about australia/thai culture harmony/clashes.

its no picnic, you have to think deeply about what you are doing together, and once u are comfortable with you both deciding that you can make a life together, then you have the harder task of proving that to the embassy.

medical exams, police and character checks and many more doc's will be required of you fiance, as well as verifying your own character and personal situation.

all of the above was mentioned in my fiance's one on one interview and her responses to the questions did match the info that we provided it because he havent half arsed it... and its important that you dont half arse it!

if you need any more questions answered just post them up mate.

Cheers,

Mark.

[Mighty Mouse]

What Mark has demonstrated is that you can't put too much time, effort, planning and preparation into an application.

its no picnic, you have to think deeply about what you are doing together, and once u are comfortable with you both deciding that you can make a life together, then you have the harder task of proving that to the embassy.

Well said.

[markww]

What Mark has demonstrated is that you can't put too much time, effort, planning and preparation into an application.

its no picnic, you have to think deeply about what you are doing together, and once u are comfortable with you both deciding that you can make a life together, then you have the harder task of proving that to the embassy.

Well said.

Thanks MM,

Now if only the embassy will understand that's what i did, and hurry up and give me our visa!!!! its been 2 months tomorrow!!

[DavieA]

What Mark has demonstrated is that you can't put too much time, effort, planning and preparation into an application.

its no picnic, you have to think deeply about what you are doing together, and once u are comfortable with you both deciding that you can make a life together, then you have the harder task of proving that to the embassy.

Well said.

Thanks MM,

Now if only the embassy will understand that's what i did, and hurry up and give me our visa!!!! its been 2 months tomorrow!!

Yeah well said markww, have no doubt you'll be successful......good luck mate!

[PaulPerth]

Ditto Mark. We even gave them extracts from our MSN chat logs and webcam shots. We applied Dec 12 th and are still waiting (see my reply to previous post).

Best of luck mate, would be interested to know when you "get the call"!

Paul

[gburns57au]

Ok now I am confused.

I read in some places on the DIMA website that for prospective marriage visa you need only proof that you have met as adults, then in other places it states that you need Evidence that your Relationship is Genuine and Continuing, with Evidence needed in 4 area's

1 financial aspects.

2 the nature of the household.

3 social context of the relationship.

4 the nature of your commitment to each other.

I think this is just refering to Spouse and interdependent visa's and as the prospective marriage visa is in the same (Partner Migration) section it has been put together. If we had all the info they are asking for we would be applying for a spouse visa already. We have got the 2 stat dec's from Ausies saying they confirm our relationship.

Can anyone who has been through this or works at DIMA clear this up for me.

Many thanks Spike & Pui

For a tourist visa there is no need to prove an ongoing relationship...but you need to show that you have known the person for at least 6 months prior to applying.

For Spouse, prospective spouse and interdependancy visas, you will need to show an ongoing and genuine relationship.

The previous replies all offer good examples and it is usually understood that as much as possible is the way to go....photos, letters, e mails, birthday cards, phone bills etc...With the Stat Decs...Get as many as possible from relatives and friends. The Stat Decs will give evidence of points 2,3 &4

Payslips, group certificates and your tax returns for prove of financial stability. Letters or Stat Dec from your boss to show current and ongoing Job situation may also assist.

Basically anything of quality that you think will assist in your application...

Graham

[Ozspike]

thanks for the advice everyone

As far as the financial stuff goes I am in a unusual position. I own my house outright and have over $1,000,000 in fixed interest and investments that pay me about $50,000/year, I plan to include the last 3 tax returns and a letter from my accountant confirming the investments and my position, As I am only 44 will this be a problem(not having a employer).

Thanks again

Simon & Pui

[gburns57au]

thanks for the advice everyone

As far as the financial stuff goes I am in a unusual position. I own my house outright and have over $1,000,000 in fixed interest and investments that pay me about $50,000/year, I plan to include the last 3 tax returns and a letter from my accountant confirming the investments and my position, As I am only 44 will this be a problem(not having a employer).

Thanks again

Simon & Pui

Anything that is proof of income will suffice...I dont see a problem there

[Chris Lawrence]

Mark we handed up 3.4 kg; that was our baby.

Our application was very simplistic; we handed this in at the interview and were given a list of things to supply further. We were married in Oz and never bothered to do the Thai marriage ceromoney here. I was only ever asked to supply 2 letters from friends, one an ex area commander in the police force and ex-employer stating he would re-employ me; plus 4 pictures of our wedding. This is all they ever wanted.

The catalist for us was the birth of our son here in Thailand and our marriage in Oz, and nearly 2 hour grilling of my wife by the case officer. Money wise Simon I don't think u have to worry with DIMA on this issuse. All u need to show is that u can support ur partner for the 2 years the Temp visa is for before the issue of the permanent visa. This u more than demonstrate.

Yes, it is a bit of a minefield starting out. I read all the booklets and information I could, but due to the emotional attachment this has and the feeling of impact this has on one's life, the begining and the waiting is the hardest. Just don't let them push u around.