jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I always thought that customer feedback was of the utmost value to a business, Why disregard negative feedback by labelling those who took time to write as "Haters" By listening to critics you may just learn something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalen Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 How do I sign up for the Walen pyramid scheme, given how well reputed the company is it should be easy money. https://www.dcs.walen.org/possibilities It is called DCS, it is not a "pyramid scheme". DCS stands for dynamic commission system and it makes money indeed. All you need to do is become a Walen student and teacher training will also qualify for DCS. We work as a team. Thank you for bringing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalen Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 I always thought that customer feedback was of the utmost value to a business, Why disregard negative feedback by labelling those who took time to write as "Haters" By listening to critics you may just learn something ? Only If what they write is true. If it is not, and the intention is to discredit the school, then there is nothing to learn from it. Maybe only that you need to keep going because more successful you get more criticism you will attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 If something is perfect I cannot believe there would be any negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Ok -- Why should anyone want to tell untruths about your "excellent" service ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I always thought that customer feedback was of the utmost value to a business, Why disregard negative feedback by labelling those who took time to write as "Haters" By listening to critics you may just learn something ? Only If what they write is true. If it is not, and the intention is to discredit the school, then there is nothing to learn from it. Maybe only that you need to keep going because more successful you get more criticism you will attract. Please post a link to a thread where you accepted any feedback, just one please Not sure if its your ego or plain arrogance, though might just be both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Asiantravel, Hater's posts only, it is not a secret that some people do not like me, that thread has been discredited long time ago. We offer free demo lessons, you can come and see how we teach without paying any money. Also there are always lots of students around, you are welcome to talk to them and get first hand reports. People can write anything on the internet. If you want to believe this it is up to you. Why do you insist on repeating that people do not like you? Have you considered the possibility that people do not have a problem with you BUT only have a problem with your business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) MacWalen has got a good business going. Some things crop up though, can he guarantee you a teaching job after the course 100%, yes or no? Who are the teachers, are they native speakers or are they people who have passed the course? For those 120hours what visa will you get the applicant, and also if a work permit, to work where, as remember a WP is for one place only. What salary can he guarantee? Where will the school be? There are hundreds of agencies out there fighting for places for their teachers, so am sure it is gonna be hard to get into a school. I must add one point, you are not a Thai Resident, but you have Permanent Residence of Thailand, a subtle difference. EDIT - Sorry you have been granted Permanent Residency in Thailand. Edited May 25, 2013 by beano2274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Several posts removed for violation of forum rules. 18) Not to discuss the specifics of prostitution.Thailand has a visible sex industry, and acknowledgment of that fact is not forbidden. However ThaiVisa is not the place to seek or give information on this topic, regardless of your sexual habits, preferences or orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 So, can you give us that list I asked for ?? Maybe you missed my post above !! It is a comprehensive ALS 120 lesson course which includes theory and practice lessons. After this course you will teach faster and also students will learn faster. It is a life long benefit. Some people here do not know what they are talking about or are belittling me, or try to be overly academic. What we teach works very very well and is worth the money. If someone has a budget to open a school they may even be able to start their own business. I am very confident in our ALS course. Perhaps the best investment you will ever make if you want to make teaching your career. You will be learning from one of the best paid teachers in Thailand. If you get good at ALS you will make very good money. Excuse me but how do you account for the fact that if you type “Walen Scam Thai Language School in Thailand “ into google you are provided with a thread in which many contributors contradict a lot of what you have said? Asiantravel, Hater's posts only, it is not a secret that some people do not like me, that thread has been discredited long time ago. We offer free demo lessons, you can come and see how we teach without paying any money. Also there are always lots of students around, you are welcome to talk to them and get first hand reports. People can write anything on the internet. If you want to believe this it is up to you. I am sorry but I just can't believe people would waste their time sitting at a computer writing negative comments about your business just for the sake of it ? Maybe one or two but not all the ones in that thread. You wouldn't spend time doing that unless you were motivated by something to do it or you were aggrieved by something specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Again some post deleted. Let's keep it civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Accusative post and flame removed. I can understand why those with positive experiences wouldn't want to post in here. Most likely would get attacked for not following the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 How do I sign up for the Walen pyramid scheme, given how well reputed the company is it should be easy money. https://www.dcs.walen.org/possibilities It is called DCS, it is not a "pyramid scheme". DCS stands for dynamic commission system and it makes money indeed. All you need to do is become a Walen student and teacher training will also qualify for DCS. We work as a team. Thank you for bringing it up. My bad, "Dynamic Commission System" is a trademark of Walen......... Wonder why why so many Google hits people are saying it is a pyramid scheme ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekside Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Excuse me but how do you account for the fact that if you type “Walen Scam Thai Language School in Thailand “ into google you are provided with a thread in which many contributors contradict a lot of what you have said? Asiantravel, Hater's posts only, it is not a secret that some people do not like me, that thread has been discredited long time ago. We offer free demo lessons, you can come and see how we teach without paying any money. Also there are always lots of students around, you are welcome to talk to them and get first hand reports. People can write anything on the internet. If you want to believe this it is up to you. I am sorry but I just can't believe people would waste their time sitting at a computer writing negative comments about your business just for the sake of it ? Maybe one or two but not all the ones in that thread. You wouldn't spend time doing that unless you were motivated by something to do it or you were aggrieved by something specific. Interesting google search results. Sites as diverse as stickman and ajarnforum and other sites elsewhere, in addition to TV threads, where literally hundreds of posters collectively have made an untold number of less than favorable comments. A veritable army division size of "haters" it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 MacWalen started this thread and has succeeded in provoking a storm. Clearly there are some very strongly held opinions. MacWalen does not assist as he is consistently evasive, Maybe it is time either for the mods to lock this topic or for us to refrain from responding to MacWalen's provocations. If anybody wishes to give 50,000 to MacWalen after reading this thread I say "Up to Them" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) MacWalen is a sponsor and can do as he pleases, also unlike the rest of us no warnings are given to sponsors, although they clearly abuse the forum rules. But that is business and he certainly knows his business. Edited May 25, 2013 by beano2274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 beano2274Thank you for that information. I am now in a position to understand. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 MacWalen started this thread and has succeeded in provoking a storm. Clearly there are some very strongly held opinions. MacWalen does not assist as he is consistently evasive, Maybe it is time either for the mods to lock this topic or for us to refrain from responding to MacWalen's provocations. If anybody wishes to give 50,000 to MacWalen after reading this thread I say "Up to Them" ! Maybe he has the same narcissistic compulsions as Kathryn Hepurn when she once said “ I don't care what they say about me as long as they are talking about me “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 beano2274, on 25 May 2013 - 16:12, said: MacWalen is a sponsor and can do as he pleases, also unlike the rest of us no warnings are given to sponsors, although they clearly abuse the forum rules. But that is business and he certainly knows his business. That about sums it up. I can not help but wonder what would happen to Pattaya branch if immigration decides to impose tougher tests to check language skills or eliminate the Thai language ED visa's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions to ED(Thia language) visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! Edited May 25, 2013 by jrtmedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions of ED visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! they have also imposed age limitations in the Chiang Mai area over a year ago which means anyone over a certain age can't qualify for an education visa. like being told you are too old to learn Edited May 25, 2013 by Asiantravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) AsisianTravel Maybe a means of preventing the "Cheap Charlie's" and visa mills (I would love to name one!) from abusing the system. Edited May 25, 2013 by jrtmedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions of ED visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! they have also imposed age limitations in the Chiang Mai area over a year ago which means anyone over a certain age can't qualify for an education visa. like being told you are too old to learn Hence might be the reason for teaching course with WP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions to ED(Thia language) visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! No wonder! How many times in a Thai lesson would big fish and little fish come up! Maybe asking in Thai how to order their favorite food would work better... jeeze I teach English and I'm pretty sure my students couldn't answer that question! Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions to ED(Thia language) visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! That was from a thread nearly two years ago. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/480875-thai-immigration-crackdown-on-ed-visas/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtmedic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 thaicbrBetter up rate your teaching -------- ! When I was asked the question ----I admit I asked for it to be repeated ------I could answer ------My neighbour enjoyed my initial discomfort and laughed ! Before you ask, I did not learn my Thai from "that school" or I would for sure have failed the test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions of ED visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! they have also imposed age limitations in the Chiang Mai area over a year ago which means anyone over a certain age can't qualify for an education visa. like being told you are too old to learn Hence might be the reason for teaching course with WP Which Lemoncake begs the question........ is the work permit and subsequent employment guaranteed 100% at the completion of the 50k course already paid for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Im not offering here assistance with ED visas but a teacher training plus a work permit. How long is the training for? How is training and getting a WP connected? Surely it means that one will have to work for your company after their training? What salary and hours will they have to accept in order to qualify for the WP on offer? What about non-degree holders, will they also be eligible for a WP upon accepting your contract offer, once fully trained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 But your "unique teaching system" is just reading out of book. You're planning to charge people 49,960 for that? Who would be stupid enough to pay that when it would be cheaper to do the internationally recognised Cambridge CELTA which would certainly lead to a job offer and a work permit paid by the employer? Unless of course the whole thing is just another visa scam. I can teach you how to teach faster. I am very confident of that. If you have a better offer take it but CELTA is not even coming close to our teaching speed. You can make a bet if you have money to lose. My girlfriend has just qualified as a teacher in Britain. It took a 4-year Bachelor's Honour's degree plus a year's very hard work for a PGCE (18+ hours a day and weekends) and a year as a Newly Qualified Teacher. 6 years' hard preparation.Are you saying that you can teach someone this in a few weeks? Walen ALS (accelerated learning system) is much faster than communicative methods. We can certainly teach faster, no doubt about that. So answering your question. Yes, I can.Christ, interrogated by TV police big time!If this isn't legit Macwalen, ve have vays of making you talk. It can be very unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 A neighbor of mine is a high ranking Immigration officer. He is implementing a scheme whereby people asking for extensions of ED visas are not spoken to other than in Thai --- they are asked simple questions like " Do big fish eat little fish" ! I am told many applicants are refused ! they have also imposed age limitations in the Chiang Mai area over a year ago which means anyone over a certain age can't qualify for an education visa. like being told you are too old to learn Hence might be the reason for teaching course with WP Which Lemoncake begs the question........ is the work permit and subsequent employment guaranteed 100% at the completion of the 50k course already paid for ? The only 100% guarantee he can give is there is no such thing as a 100% guarantee. Sent from my LG-E612 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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