As We Are On It Now, Another Translation Wanted.

[benalibina]

Want to know exactly, if possible, about who the writer refers to. She or he ?

กุเหนื่อยกับมึงจิงๆ รู้ตัวมั่งป่าวว่ามึงเหี้ยแค่ใหน ถ้าไม่นับถือกันก็อย่ามานับญาติ มึงก็อย่ามาสร้างความเกือดร้อนให้กับครอบครัว ไม่ช่วยยังพอว่าสร้างแต่ปัญหา ใครสั่งใครสอนก็ไม่ได้ มึงก็เหี้ยนทุกที มึงไปกินกันคนอืนดีกว่า ถ้าวันนี้มึงคิดไม่ได้ต่อให้มึงอีก 50 ปี มึงก็คิดไม่ได้ อย่ามาว่าคนอื่น ดูตัวเองดีกว่านะ คนที่เสียใจที่สุด คือยาย กูเองก็ไม่อยากจะสนใจมึงหรอก แต่ก็มันเกิดมาเฮงซวยมีน้องอย่างมึง กูก็ต้องทน แต่กูก็คงไม่ทนทั้งชีวิตหรอก กุมีอะไรให้รับผิดชอบเยอะ กุสุดทนจิงๆคงไม่นานกุก็ไปอยู่ที่อื่น ก็เพราะมึง ถ้ายังไม่ปรับตัว มึงก็อยู่ให้เค้าว่าอยู่แบบนี้แหละ แล้วก็อย่ามานั่งร้องไห้ โทษคนอื่น

[Murf]

It reads like a female writing to a male.

[meadish_sweetball]

I agree with Murf, reads like a big sister scolding her little brother. Strong words.

[kriswillems]

May I ask why you think it's a female writing to a male? I must be missing something?

I see it's an older brother or sister writing to a younger brother or sister.

[benalibina]

A woman wrote this.

[kriswillems]

A woman wrote this.

How to you know this? I must be missing something?

[benalibina]

A woman wrote this.

How to you know this? I must be missing something?

I am the OP !!!

I admit i am stupid but ................

[kriswillems]

A woman wrote this.

How to you know this? I must be missing something?

I am the OP !!!

I admit i am stupid but ................

ha ha Ok, it I missed that. Thanks. Still, I wonder how others found this out.

[benalibina]

A woman wrote this.

How to you know this? I must be missing something?

I am the OP !!!I admit i am stupid but ................

ha ha Ok, it I missed that. Thanks. Still, I wonder how others found this out.

Still i do not know what, apart from scolding, is written in the text. Thai2english translation is ok but not very clear.

[kriswillems]

The women is saying that:

- she's tired of her younger brother

- that he's an <deleted>

- that he shouldn't come to cause troubles for the whole family

- the he doesn't help and only creates problems

- that nobody seems to be able to teach him (to be good)

- that he better goes to take advantage of others (instead of the family)

- that if he doesn't understand it today, he'll probably not even understand in 50 years

- that he should not blame others, but has to look at himself

- that grandmother is the most sad of all people

- the she herself doesn't care about him

- that she's unlucky to have a younger brother like this

- that she has to try to hold on/not give up, but she can't do that all her life

- that she has a lot of responsibilities and that she might soon give up and go to live somewhere else (because of him)

- That if he doesn't change (and she's gone) he doesn't need to come to cry that people say he lives live like this. He can go to blame others

PS. in my opinion, the younger brother could as well be a younger sister.

[benalibina]

Dear Kris,

Thank you very much for taking the time and effort to write this.

Funny that she writes this though because she is a player of the game and relies on foreigners money without working to live in ban og. Goodlooking she is. Its a strange world !

[meadish_sweetball]

kris, I agree that there is nothing explicit that says this is a woman writing to a man. My statement is purely based on my personal experience and preconceptions about style and tone, and not on any totally obvious linguistic giveaways such as particle use or pronouns.

[Mole]

She might as well be writing to a younger sister.

แล้วก็อย่ามานั่งร้องไห้ โทษคนอื่น

I'm not so sure if she would have told another man "don't come crying and blame others".

But unless OP said it's from a woman, there's nothing in the text which would have said so. Could be a man. Only clue is that the receiver may be a woman unless he's kinda crybaby.

[benalibina]

It was 100% posted by a woman as a topic on fb.

Will copy and paste some reactions on tv. Maybe then things will be more clear.

รัยกันอีกหล่ะ

เบื่ออยู่บ้านปัญหาเดิมๆ หนูก็ไม่รู้จะเอาไง มันเหนื่อยใจ รอให้น้าต้องมาอยู่แย่ละ จะได้เอายายไปอยู่ด้วย มันก็มีเหี้ย เลี้ยงเหี้ย วันดีคืนดีมัน มันก็เฮี้ยน คนที่อยู่ที่นี่มันก็เหนื่อยใจ

อันนี้หนูไม่ได้โทษใครนะ แค่ คนคนเดียว มีปัญหาตลอด ถ้ามันไม่เปลี่ยนใครจะอยู่กะมันได้

เบื่อฟังแล้วทุก

2nd and 3rd comments by original poster.

[Mole]

Only a girl would use หนู to refer to oneself.

[MikeyIdea]

http://www.thai-language.com/bulklook should help. Hover 20 easiest

Very strong word "sanndaan"

[benalibina]

Is any of you sure that it is adressed to a younger person ? This cause i have a gut feeling that it is adressed towards myself. Based on timing of the post on fb.

Ps; i am an older male than the woman who posted it on fb.

At mikey: i cant open the link. What does sanndaan mean ?

[Mole]

แต่ก็มันเกิดมาเฮงซวยมีน้องอย่างมึง

But it's my bad luck to be born to a younger sibling like you.

The meaning is clear that the writer is older sibling to the reciepient.

[benalibina]

แต่ก็มันเกิดมาเฮงซวยมีน้องอย่างมึง But it's my bad luck to be born to a younger sibling like you. The meaning is clear that the writer is older sibling to the reciepient.

Ok, thanks.

Putting this on fb, does that not loose face for the 1 who is referred to ?

Seems very odd for a thai familymember to do that to another 1 in public.

[Mole]

If this was posted on FB, you can say it's a public scolding and the intention is to have the recipient lose face.

But this is probably a long standing conflict between them, so their acquaintances of FB would probably have been aware of this. Those who weren't surely are now…