Marry A Thai Woman Then Apply For O Visa

[kenny1916]

hi im new to all this and sort of confused about the visa process id like to enter from my country on a double entry tourist visa then marry my g/f I know I need my affirmation form to marry but I don't know a lot more than that .

then I wish to apply for my (o) visa would I travel to Laos or do I need to do it at the immigration office in Bangkok and is it possible so after marriage would I leave into Laos then apply there for my (o) visa then come back into Thailand for 1 year and do I need to leave to the border then every 3 months or can I send paperwork to the immigration office in Thailand to say that im still living in the country every 3 months .

can someone please put a list of the paperwork needed and how to go about these things for a beginner and a list of prices for the different parts

the paperwork I know I need is passport and copy of red book from my then wife's family home to show I have a full time address in Thailand and copy of marriage certificate I know some places ask you have 400,000 b but I don't have that at the moment . I read the visa run to Savannakhet and know they aren't asking for that at the moment

i will also be looking for work at the same time so i have a chance of landing in Thailand with a job

thanks in advance to everyone this is a great site

[lopburi3]

You can not extend without meeting financial conditions so a multi entry non immigrant O visa from Savannakhet in Laos is your best option for now (once married). That will cost 5,000 baht plus visa to Laos of about 1500 baht plus overnight stay and transportation. The paperwork is the marriage certificate/copy and copy of wife ID card and home register (blue book - not red). This will require exit every 90 days or less for a new 90 day entry.

Marriage will cost what your Embassy charges for paper plus translation plus registration with MFA and a little for District Office. Not to mention what the wedding and any sin sot arrangement is made.

[kenny1916]

You can not extend without meeting financial conditions so a multi entry non immigrant O visa from Savannakhet in Laos is your best option for now (once married). That will cost 5,000 baht plus visa to Laos of about 1500 baht plus overnight stay and transportation. The paperwork is the marriage certificate/copy and copy of wife ID card and home register (blue book - not red). This will require exit every 90 days or less for a new 90 day entry.

Marriage will cost what your Embassy charges for paper plus translation plus registration with MFA and a little for District Office. Not to mention what the wedding and any sin sot arrangement is made.

yes I know about the affirmation form 3800 b then I need to get it translated into Thai language I don't know what MFA is but I know I need go to district ( anfur ) office to marry and get the certificate we are having the marriage party ( informal wedding or blessing ) later we just want get the paperwork for me to stay first then we can do the rest when we have the time .

[monty]

Two separate things, marriage and then visa...

You'll have to ask the amphoe (district) where you plan to marry exactly what paperwork they need, it might differ from location to location. In general you will need two pieces of paperwork from your embassy, one stating that you are free to marry (i.e. you are single or legally divorced), and a second one, an affidavit for marriage, stating your income, your address and two witnesses of your own nationality.

Ask your embassy in Thailand what is required to get those two papers. It will require more paperwork then you might ever imagine, even a trip back home to get everything together.

Both papers need to get translated into Thai, and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign affairs.

Your future wife will need all her paperwork (ID card, house registration book, which is blue, not red).

Then you should be able to marry.

Once married, a few more visa options are opened.

Firstly, on every entry (regardless of what visa you used) you can get a 60 day extension once, no financial proof needed, only marriage paperwork and wife.

Secondly, you can get a non immigrant O visa at any embassy or consulate. In your home country you'll easily get a multiple entry valid for 1 year, with each entry allowing you 90 days of stay (+ 60 day extension as married person). Local embassies are reluctant to give a multiple entry, with the exception of Savanakhet in Laos (see Lopburi's post).

Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.

My guess is that the bigger stumbling block will satisfying your embassy in giving you the required paperwork.

My embassy (Belgium) requires:

- Paperwork showing income (salary slips)

- Birth certificate, stamped and legalized by city hall of the place you were born, certification not older then 6 months.

- A transcription from the population register of the place you live, stating address, marital status, name and nationality, stamped and legalized by a city official.

- Name, address, birthdate of two Belgian nationals stating that they are aware of your marriage plans and a copy of their IDcards.

[kenny1916]

Two separate things, marriage and then visa...

You'll have to ask the amphoe (district) where you plan to marry exactly what paperwork they need, it might differ from location to location. In general you will need two pieces of paperwork from your embassy, one stating that you are free to marry (i.e. you are single or legally divorced), and a second one, an affidavit for marriage, stating your income, your address and two witnesses of your own nationality.

Ask your embassy in Thailand what is required to get those two papers. It will require more paperwork then you might ever imagine, even a trip back home to get everything together.

Both papers need to get translated into Thai, and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign affairs.

Your future wife will need all her paperwork (ID card, house registration book, which is blue, not red).

Then you should be able to marry.

Once married, a few more visa options are opened.

Firstly, on every entry (regardless of what visa you used) you can get a 60 day extension once, no financial proof needed, only marriage paperwork and wife.

Secondly, you can get a non immigrant O visa at any embassy or consulate. In your home country you'll easily get a multiple entry valid for 1 year, with each entry allowing you 90 days of stay (+ 60 day extension as married person). Local embassies are reluctant to give a multiple entry, with the exception of Savanakhet in Laos (see Lopburi's post).

Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.

My guess is that the bigger stumbling block will satisfying your embassy in giving you the required paperwork.

My embassy (Belgium) requires:

- Paperwork showing income (salary slips)

- Birth certificate, stamped and legalized by city hall of the place you were born, certification not older then 6 months.

- A transcription from the population register of the place you live, stating address, marital status, name and nationality, stamped and legalized by a city official.

- Name, address, birthdate of two Belgian nationals stating that they are aware of your marriage plans and a copy of their IDcards.

my consulate we have an affirmation it has all the details you ask for on it as 1 form when i go to marry her i will be unemployed as im giving my home up in the uk and not returning i plan to marry and apply for o visa as you say but my money is pretty short as im only working part time in the uk now and need to save before return ( does not working make a difference or not ? )

[amsterdammer]

I have just been through a similar experience. Details are at my posting here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/649110-report-exchange-tourist-visa-to-non-immigrant-marriage-form-tm86/

It essentially is a 4 step process

1 Obtain tourist visa from home country.

2 Arrive in Thailand and follow Affirmation of freedom to marry process at your embassy, arrange document translation, and then legalization at MFA (Ministry of Foreign Affairs at Bangkok Chaengwattana. Set up a bank account and deposit minimum 400,000 baht.

3 Go through the marriage process at your wife’s local amphur office. Documents needed are your passport, your Affirmation of freedom to marry documents, your wife’s ID card and blue house registration books.

4 With around 20 days remaining on your tourist visa follow the APPLICATION FOR CHANGE OF VISA process (Form TM86).

"Not working" is not and issue when completing Affirmation Freedom to Marry documents. You just need to enter details on your previous employment or trade, Writing "Unemployed" and income as "Nil" should be avoided.

Good luck with it!

[lopburi3]

As said most countries are not Belgium and the paper is one piece and easily filled in with no external paperwork required unless divorced. There is no set requirement for employment but District Office does review paperwork and might advise the intended of your status.

As for the 60 day extensions that is an added cost of immigration visit and 1,900 baht so have to judge if worth the effort or if just making border runs every 90 days may be better.

[kenny1916]

As said most countries are not Belgium and the paper is one piece and easily filled in with no external paperwork required unless divorced. There is no set requirement for employment but District Office does review paperwork and might advise the intended of your status.

As for the 60 day extensions that is an added cost of immigration visit and 1,900 baht so have to judge if worth the effort or if just making border runs every 90 days may be better.

well if im intending to stay in Bangkok 1900 b and a trip to immigration maybe worth it to not need to travel every 3 months and make it every 5 months instead

[monty]

As said most countries are not Belgium and the paper is one piece and easily filled in with no external paperwork required unless divorced.  There is no set requirement for employment but District Office does review paperwork and might advise the intended of your status.

 

As for the 60 day extensions that is an added cost of immigration visit and 1,900 baht so have to judge if worth the effort or if just making border runs every 90 days may be better.

well if im intending to stay in Bangkok 1900 b and a trip to immigration maybe worth it to not need to travel every 3 months and make it every 5 months instead

Guess for most people the same, unless you live close to a border.

Another thing is that for most border runs you need a visa as well (Malaysia is the exception), which is not free (1000 Baht and more) and eats up a full page in your costly passport.

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[kenny1916]

As said most countries are not Belgium and the paper is one piece and easily filled in with no external paperwork required unless divorced. There is no set requirement for employment but District Office does review paperwork and might advise the intended of your status.

As for the 60 day extensions that is an added cost of immigration visit and 1,900 baht so have to judge if worth the effort or if just making border runs every 90 days may be better.

well if im intending to stay in Bangkok 1900 b and a trip to immigration maybe worth it to not need to travel every 3 months and make it every 5 months instead

Guess for most people the same, unless you live close to a border.

Another thing is that for most border runs you need a visa as well (Malaysia is the exception), which is not free (1000 Baht and more) and eats up a full page in your costly passport.

Sent from my GT-I9001 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

when needed I would travel to Laos from Bangkok im not sure of the price as I never done visa runs I always left on my flight after my 60 day tourist visa had run out

[cobra1]

Hi guys little advice on what i can do iam on a o visa from my home country lived here long time but been split with my thai wife for over 3 years we still on speaking terms,i have copies of family home book,copies and original marriage certificate,and copies of wifes id card.My O visa runs out 23rd september yes i know will get another 90days but what can i do after that as my wifes id card copy i have runs out 18th august, spoke to her she doesn't want to send me a photo copy of her new id card when she renews it ,what options do i have now iam working as teacher but agent says it ok to work as it is (yes because firm can save the cost of b visa /wp)i understand you can work on a marriage visa but still need wp any ideas would be good

[louse1953]

Two separate things, marriage and then visa...

You'll have to ask the amphoe (district) where you plan to marry exactly what paperwork they need, it might differ from location to location. In general you will need two pieces of paperwork from your embassy, one stating that you are free to marry (i.e. you are single or legally divorced), and a second one, an affidavit for marriage, stating your income, your address and two witnesses of your own nationality.

Ask your embassy in Thailand what is required to get those two papers. It will require more paperwork then you might ever imagine, even a trip back home to get everything together.

Both papers need to get translated into Thai, and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign affairs.

Your future wife will need all her paperwork (ID card, house registration book, which is blue, not red).

Then you should be able to marry.

Once married, a few more visa options are opened.

Firstly, on every entry (regardless of what visa you used) you can get a 60 day extension once, no financial proof needed, only marriage paperwork and wife.

Secondly, you can get a non immigrant O visa at any embassy or consulate. In your home country you'll easily get a multiple entry valid for 1 year, with each entry allowing you 90 days of stay (+ 60 day extension as married person). Local embassies are reluctant to give a multiple entry, with the exception of Savanakhet in Laos (see Lopburi's post).

Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.

My guess is that the bigger stumbling block will satisfying your embassy in giving you the required paperwork.

My embassy (Belgium) requires:

- Paperwork showing income (salary slips)

- Birth certificate, stamped and legalized by city hall of the place you were born, certification not older then 6 months.

- A transcription from the population register of the place you live, stating address, marital status, name and nationality, stamped and legalized by a city official.

- Name, address, birthdate of two Belgian nationals stating that they are aware of your marriage plans and a copy of their IDcards.

my consulate we have an affirmation it has all the details you ask for on it as 1 form when i go to marry her i will be unemployed as im giving my home up in the uk and not returning i plan to marry and apply for o visa as you say but my money is pretty short as im only working part time in the uk now and need to save before return ( does not working make a difference or not ? )

Be careful about burning all your bridges.

[lopburi3]

You can not work without a work permit on any visa (so not sure of your comment about saving money not getting B visa or WP). You should indeed obtain a non immigrant B visa now and extend for teaching (if you are actually legal with a work permit) so only a single entry should be required.

[SpeakeasyThai]

'Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.'

Please I am a bit confused: I already live here on a non 0 visa as I am married to a Tai national. But the relationship is not good good at the moment. I am unable to get my marriage certificate as she snatched it from me.

So as I am already on a non o visa (due to my marriage) are you seaying all I need is 400,000 baht in my thai bank to extent for 1 more year?

Please reply. Thanks

[Anon999]

Two separate things, marriage and then visa...

You'll have to ask the amphoe (district) where you plan to marry exactly what paperwork they need, it might differ from location to location. In general you will need two pieces of paperwork from your embassy, one stating that you are free to marry (i.e. you are single or legally divorced), and a second one, an affidavit for marriage, stating your income, your address and two witnesses of your own nationality.

Ask your embassy in Thailand what is required to get those two papers. It will require more paperwork then you might ever imagine, even a trip back home to get everything together.

Both papers need to get translated into Thai, and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign affairs.

Your future wife will need all her paperwork (ID card, house registration book, which is blue, not red).

Then you should be able to marry.

Once married, a few more visa options are opened.

Firstly, on every entry (regardless of what visa you used) you can get a 60 day extension once, no financial proof needed, only marriage paperwork and wife.

Secondly, you can get a non immigrant O visa at any embassy or consulate. In your home country you'll easily get a multiple entry valid for 1 year, with each entry allowing you 90 days of stay (+ 60 day extension as married person). Local embassies are reluctant to give a multiple entry, with the exception of Savanakhet in Laos (see Lopburi's post).

Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.

My guess is that the bigger stumbling block will satisfying your embassy in giving you the required paperwork.

My embassy (Belgium) requires:

- Paperwork showing income (salary slips)

- Birth certificate, stamped and legalized by city hall of the place you were born, certification not older then 6 months.

- A transcription from the population register of the place you live, stating address, marital status, name and nationality, stamped and legalized by a city official.

- Name, address, birthdate of two Belgian nationals stating that they are aware of your marriage plans and a copy of their IDcards.

my consulate we have an affirmation it has all the details you ask for on it as 1 form when i go to marry her i will be unemployed as im giving my home up in the uk and not returning i plan to marry and apply for o visa as you say but my money is pretty short as im only working part time in the uk now and need to save before return ( does not working make a difference or not ? )

Now we know you are in the UK it helps.

Suggest you take time to study the website of the Royal Thai Consulate in Hull as it is really excellent and he service they provide is very good with a fast turnaround. You can apply for an O-A non immigrant visa from them and everything can be done by post, email and phone. All the forms are also available from their website too.

You'll also need:

1. Medical cert from your GP. £££'s

2. Document from the police to confirm no criminal record. £££'s

3. The Affirmation, I think you have to write your own from a list of their requirements, 2,000+ baht. There is a list of their fees on the FCO Bangkok website.

4. Proof of income is 40,000 baht/month for marriage but there are many more hoops to jump through than for Retirement with monthly income of 65,000 baht which is fairly straightforward but no WP. Marriage application is a fairly long job with a number of visits involved. Also if you divorce you have just 7 days to leave the country!

5. The 90 day reporting is on Form TM47 available to download from Thai Immigration website. I do mine by post and it is free.

6. Annual extension to stay is on Form TM7, as above, it's 1,900 baht done on the spot and no 'tea money'.

7. Re-entry Permit application form is a TM8. Without one you will invalidate your permission to stay and will not be allowed to re-enter without a new visa.

There is a lot of required reading to do! Swings and roundabouts.

Finally many things will be affected by where you live in Thailand. Hope that helps.

Best of luck.

Edited June 26, 2013 by Anon999

[Lite Beer]

A Non Imm O-A Visa cannot be applied for at the Hull Consulate.

Only the Embassy in London can issue this.

65,000 Baht monthly income or 800,000 in the bank. or a combination of both.

Plus the medical and police report.

[Lite Beer]

'Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.'

Please I am a bit confused: I already live here on a non 0 visa as I am married to a Tai national. But the relationship is not good good at the moment. I am unable to get my marriage certificate as she snatched it from me.

So as I am already on a non o visa (due to my marriage) are you seaying all I need is 400,000 baht in my thai bank to extent for 1 more year?

Please reply. Thanks

No you cannot.

You need to be living together as husband and wife .

Your Wife has to go with you to Immigration when you apply and be interviewed.

[Anon999]

'Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.'

Please I am a bit confused: I already live here on a non 0 visa as I am married to a Tai national. But the relationship is not good good at the moment. I am unable to get my marriage certificate as she snatched it from me.

So as I am already on a non o visa (due to my marriage) are you seaying all I need is 400,000 baht in my thai bank to extent for 1 more year?

Please reply. Thanks

You'll also need a copy of her ID Card and her house (blue)book.

[Anon999]

A Non Imm O-A Visa cannot be applied for at the Hull Consulate.

Only the Embassy in London can issue this.

65,000 Baht monthly income or 800,000 in the bank. or a combination of both.

Plus the medical and police report.

Thanks for the correction.

OP said he does not have 400,000 so did not mention it.

Edited June 26, 2013 by Anon999

[Anon999]

'Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.'

Please I am a bit confused: I already live here on a non 0 visa as I am married to a Tai national. But the relationship is not good good at the moment. I am unable to get my marriage certificate as she snatched it from me.

So as I am already on a non o visa (due to my marriage) are you seaying all I need is 400,000 baht in my thai bank to extent for 1 more year?

Please reply. Thanks

No you cannot.

You need to be living together as husband and wife .

Your Wife has to go with you to Immigration when you apply and be interviewed.

Amnat Immigration did not interview my wife only checked all the documents were in order and we were the only ones there. However, as we all know that depends on the Officer and the Office involved.

[lopburi3]

Your wife must be with you and you must be living as husband and wife - this is not the case for the poster above so an extension based on having a Thai wife would not be approved. And it appears he will not be able to obtain the documents required for a new multi entry visa anywhere in area either. He needs to obtain a non immigrant B visa based on work if he wants to remain here and work. Or an extension based on work.

[ubonjoe]

If you got an extension of stay based upon marriage she was asked questions to fill out a statement that both of you signed. This is what many call the interview.

This is a rule that cannot be eliminated by an officer or office because it is part of the package sent to the regional immigration headquarters (In Korat for Amnat) for approval of your extension.

Edited June 26, 2013 by ubonjoe

[chrisinth]

Two separate things, marriage and then visa...

You'll have to ask the amphoe (district) where you plan to marry exactly what paperwork they need, it might differ from location to location. In general you will need two pieces of paperwork from your embassy, one stating that you are free to marry (i.e. you are single or legally divorced), and a second one, an affidavit for marriage, stating your income, your address and two witnesses of your own nationality.

Ask your embassy in Thailand what is required to get those two papers. It will require more paperwork then you might ever imagine, even a trip back home to get everything together.

Both papers need to get translated into Thai, and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign affairs.

Your future wife will need all her paperwork (ID card, house registration book, which is blue, not red).

Then you should be able to marry.

Once married, a few more visa options are opened.

Firstly, on every entry (regardless of what visa you used) you can get a 60 day extension once, no financial proof needed, only marriage paperwork and wife.

Secondly, you can get a non immigrant O visa at any embassy or consulate. In your home country you'll easily get a multiple entry valid for 1 year, with each entry allowing you 90 days of stay (+ 60 day extension as married person). Local embassies are reluctant to give a multiple entry, with the exception of Savanakhet in Laos (see Lopburi's post).

Thirdly, if you have either 400,000 Baht in the bank, or a legal income of over 40,000 Baht/month, you can extend your non immigrant O visa to 1 year.

My guess is that the bigger stumbling block will satisfying your embassy in giving you the required paperwork.

My embassy (Belgium) requires:

- Paperwork showing income (salary slips)

- Birth certificate, stamped and legalized by city hall of the place you were born, certification not older then 6 months.

- A transcription from the population register of the place you live, stating address, marital status, name and nationality, stamped and legalized by a city official.

- Name, address, birthdate of two Belgian nationals stating that they are aware of your marriage plans and a copy of their IDcards.

my consulate we have an affirmation it has all the details you ask for on it as 1 form when i go to marry her i will be unemployed as im giving my home up in the uk and not returning i plan to marry and apply for o visa as you say but my money is pretty short as im only working part time in the uk now and need to save before return ( does not working make a difference or not ? )

Now we know you are in the UK it helps.

Suggest you take time to study the website of the Royal Thai Consulate in Hull as it is really excellent and he service they provide is very good with a fast turnaround. You can apply for an O-A non immigrant visa from them and everything can be done by post, email and phone. All the forms are also available from their website too.

You'll also need:

1. Medical cert from your GP. £££'s

2. Document from the police to confirm no criminal record. £££'s

3. The Affirmation, I think you have to write your own from a list of their requirements, 2,000+ baht. There is a list of their fees on the FCO Bangkok website.

4. Proof of income is 40,000 baht/month for marriage but there are many more hoops to jump through than for Retirement with monthly income of 65,000 baht which is fairly straightforward but no WP. Marriage application is a fairly long job with a number of visits involved. Also if you divorce you have just 7 days to leave the country!

5. The 90 day reporting is on Form TM47 available to download from Thai Immigration website. I do mine by post and it is free.

6. Annual extension to stay is on Form TM7, as above, it's 1,900 baht done on the spot and no 'tea money'.

7. Re-entry Permit application form is a TM8. Without one you will invalidate your permission to stay and will not be allowed to re-enter without a new visa.

There is a lot of required reading to do! Swings and roundabouts.

Finally many things will be affected by where you live in Thailand. Hope that helps.

Best of luck.

I don't think the OP has stated his age; if he is under 50 then the O-A option is not available to him. He stated that the 400,000 baht was not available to him either at the moment, so again, the O-A visa would not be applicable.

Perhaps that is the reason he is asking about a dependency visa?

[SSSlongtime]

it cost a lot of money to marry a thai lady and stay in thailand

[Gone]

You might also want to ask your Thai wife (future wife), to look into all this for you too. That really will help I think.

[kennedy]

You might also want to ask your Thai wife (future wife), to look into all this for you too. That really will help I think.

If she doesn't have any connections (legal). Hire someone to take care of it.

[cobra1]

Your wife must be with you and you must be living as husband and wife - this is not the case for the poster above so an extension based on having a Thai wife would not be approved. And it appears he will not be able to obtain the documents required for a new multi entry visa anywhere in area either. He needs to obtain a non immigrant B visa based on work if he wants to remain here and work. Or an extension based on work.

never had to before have just gone to savanakatt with documents paid 5000baht O multi entry based on marriage but as said her id card which have to be renewed every 6 years runs out august so when my time is up cant do same as before because the ----- won't send me a copy of the new id card she going to be issued with so guess only option is b visa based on work from my agent

[Lite Beer]

That was for a Non imm Visa from a Consulate.

You are now asking about a 12 month extension from Immigration.

[HaroldB]

I am not sure how different it is from New Zealand but I married in November.

We required a Statuary Declaration from the NZ Embassy which only required my Passport and NZ or Australian Drivers license, we had the Stat Dec translated and sent off to be OK'd, We then received the paperwork at our house (within a week) and went to the local Amphur office, who issued the Marriage Certificate, Issued my Wife with a new ID card in our Married name and also changed the name on her house paper, We required two witness (from the village) the whole process took about an hour and a half.

We are living in Australia at the moment so haven't gone into the best long term visa yet but we do support her Mother, sister and niece and have done for the past five years, so we keep bank records and now have them on auto bank payments from our Thai Bank.

[kenny1916]

sorry I didn't say my age im 43 from the uk im entering on a tourist visa then I will marry and go to Laos for my (O) visa