If You Could Live Again - Come to Thailand Younger?

[Kudel]

I concur on the work part......but doing the 'things you love' hardly ever make any money...unless the stars are aligned of course

In this modern day and age with the power of the internet at our finger tips many of us young guys are turning our passions into money makers.

Or at least carving out our own economic (and location) independence so we don't have to slave away at a job we hate working for someone else.

What would that passion be then,making porn movies?Ever read the many topics on the net about foreigners trying to get a decent internet connection at their fingertips.

[maprao]

Hell yeah. I was walking around Tesco the other day looking at all those cuties. The I remembered all those wasted days chasing fat flepalants around the UK. I would have started coming at the age of 18. I would then join the elite group getting all my freebies.

[TheSpade]

I concur on the work part......but doing the 'things you love' hardly ever make any money...unless the stars are aligned of course

In this modern day and age with the power of the internet at our finger tips many of us young guys are turning our passions into money makers.

Or at least carving out our own economic (and location) independence so we don't have to slave away at a job we hate working for someone else.

What would that passion be then,making porn movies?Ever read the many topics on the net about foreigners trying to get a decent internet connection at their fingertips.

If you only associate the internet with porn then that says a lot about you doesn't it?

[Changnoi2]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

[udonthani1]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

But you can be miserable while "making the coin."

[Neeranam]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

I did the opposite and spent 12 years as a phony English teacher. These were very happy years. I'd often think of being stuck in the middle of the North Sea in the sideways snow when following the career I'd wrongly chosen as an engineer in the oil industry.

[Neeranam]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

But you can be miserable while "making the coin."

I think it's a big gamble if you are miserable 'making the coin'. Similar to paying into pension funds. You might die or give yourself a heart attack.My brother is very successful at what he does - making money basically and is now taking medication for his heart and blood pressure.

I got great advice from a friend about 5 years ago when I'd made a substantial amount of money and wanted to invest it or pay for a pension. He told me to stay away from the stock market, buy gold(which I made a big profit on in 3 years), forget the UK pension back-payments and to use the money gamble in something I knew a lot about and had a +ve EV(expected value). incidentally, he's now telling me to buy the gold again.

[JLCrab]

Where does it say that the guy was miserable during those 8 years?

BTW 5 year appreciation price of gold per oz. = about $1000 to 1800 max; Price of Apple stock appreciation over 5 years about $100 per share to $700 max per share.

Once gold became to FoxNews what pimple cream is to MTV you knew the boat had sailed.

Edited July 11, 2013 by JLCrab

[Changnoi2]

Hi me again.

To be honest it was quite a tough 8 years as I was working as a contractor in Holland and living alone in Bedsits ( Leading a very boring lifestyle), But I felt I had to make the sacrifice to kick-start a good life for my future self over here in Thailand. I knew I wouldn't be happy in 10 years time if I had only plodded along teaching English (I have no degree nor qualifications)

I sometimes see younger guys who are ambitious but with no funds with the dream of staying here,I feel its these people that can get them self into deep water. Lets face it. its extremely hard to find decent employment here that you would enjoy and most importantly give you the lifestyle that you and your GF or WIFE would want. (Or you will end up writing posts on Thaivisa about how much you try to get by on) haha

I wish everyone all the best that wish to live here. You wont regret it after you make the move. I guess age isn't important really.

[TheSpade]

Surely people aren't coming here with no money, no job prospects and no idea how they plan to fund their life here?

[SteeleJoe]

Surely people aren't coming here with no money, no job prospects and no idea how they plan to fund their life here?

Surely some have and odds are some still do.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

forget the UK pension back-payments and to use the money gamble in something I knew a lot about and had a +ve EV(expected value). incidentally, he's now telling me to buy the gold again.

UK class 2 NI payments at 2.50ukp/week is the best pension bargain bar none.

And soon if you paid a minimum 10 years, free health care for life too (have to return to UK for the free health care).

6 years back payments cost you 900ukp, and buy you a pension of approx 25ukp/week = 1250ukp/year.

Tell me what other investments you have made with a return of 100% per year RPI linked and guaranteed for life.

Edited July 11, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[Kudel]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

Why would i work most my life and throw everything i have out of the door to start a business in Thailand wich i can not fully own 49% i believe it is in Thailand and 51% is owned by Thais mostly the wife and if it goes south with the wife youre out on the street with nothing to show for it what a great investment that is .To much odds stacked against me and ive worked in a few third world countrys myself an experienced myself when things go wrong how much rights you have as a foreigner in a strange land. Edited July 11, 2013 by Kudel

[AnotherOneAmerican]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

Why would i work most my life and throw everything i have out of the door to start a business in Thailand wich i can not fully own 49% i believe it is in Thailand and 51% is owned by Thais mostly the wife and if it goes south with the wife youre out on the street with nothing to show for it what a great investment that is .To much odds stacked against me and ive worked in a few third world countrys myself an experienced myself when things go wrong how much rights you have as a foreigner in a strange land.

Rent the premises in your name, buy the equipment in your own name and keep the receipts.

Explain how you can be 'out in the street' with nothing to show for it?

Yes as a foreigner you do need a 'front person', but it doesn't mean they own anything you paid for (unless you are stupid).

[Kudel]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

Why would i work most my life and throw everything i have out of the door to start a business in Thailand wich i can not fully own 49% i believe it is in Thailand and 51% is owned by Thais mostly the wife and if it goes south with the wife youre out on the street with nothing to show for it what a great investment that is .To much odds stacked against me and ive worked in a few third world countrys myself an experienced myself when things go wrong how much rights you have as a foreigner in a strange land.

Rent the premises in your name, buy the equipment in your own name and keep the receipts.Explain how you can be 'out in the street' with nothing to show for it?Yes as a foreigner you do need a 'front person', but it doesn't mean they own anything you paid for (unless you are stupid).

Ask the guys who are married with a thai without a prenup and have a bussines buy things during said marriage thai divorce law states that everything is fifty fifty receipts or not.And always funny that after high season there are so many farang "owned" bussenisses for sale on many ads on thailand related websites .

[Neeranam]

forget the UK pension back-payments and to use the money gamble in something I knew a lot about and had a +ve EV(expected value). incidentally, he's now telling me to buy the gold again.

UK class 2 NI payments at 2.50ukp/week is the best pension bargain bar none.

And soon if you paid a minimum 10 years, free health care for life too (have to return to UK for the free health care).

6 years back payments cost you 900ukp, and buy you a pension of approx 25ukp/week = 1250ukp/year.

Tell me what other investments you have made with a return of 100% per year RPI linked and guaranteed for life.

When I enquired, I'd have to pay back something like 7000 pounds and would have to pay more weekly.

I make investments on baize tables and I don't mean snooker. Returns have been more than 100% per year.

[Neeranam]

Surely people aren't coming here with no money, no job prospects and no idea how they plan to fund their life here?

I did and after 12 years as a phony English teacher was highly motivated to find a way to earn real money. Those years were valuable in a way for learning the language and making contacts/friends and having a stress-free enjoyable time.

[Cheapcharly]

instead of buying a 300'000$ home In usa or uk... why not invest it and come to Thailand and live with interest.?

what you got with your house? a bed, a tv, and plenty of tax to pay to some crazy government who throw money at refugees?

example is détroit.. what people get at the end? the got nothing. they lost all.

the problems is many guys want start a business in Thailand and fail.

they buy house, get married and one day lose all.

if il you get married to a thai lady, make sure she doesn't leave you one day with your belongings.

[899cc]

instead of buying a 300'000$ home In usa or uk... why not invest it and come to Thailand and live with interest.?

what you got with your house? a bed, a tv, and plenty of tax to pay to some crazy government who throw money at refugees?

example is détroit.. what people get at the end? the got nothing. they lost all.

the problems is many guys want start a business in Thailand and fail.

they buy house, get married and one day lose all.

if il you get married to a thai lady, make sure she doesn't leave you one day with your belongings.

How do make sure she doesn't leave ? Chain her to the bed

[Cheapcharly]

don't get married.... duh!

[Nana Cowboy]

getting married is ok if it's to the right person. coming to Thailand to live forever at 25 short of being a multi-millionaire is just plain stupid

unless of course you like being poor...for life

Edited July 25, 2013 by Nana Cowboy

[Nana Cowboy]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

But you can be miserable while "making the coin."

no no not at all. Making coin when you're young is fun fun fun. I was fortunate enough to make enough between age 25 and 40 to retire a rich man. Now I've been in Thailand for 10 years without a care in the world. I'd hate to scrounge for cash in this country. never done it never will. I don't care what others do though...like the OP. he shouldn't gloat though as it's hardly anything to gloat about and I firmly believe he regrets his own decisions on the matter. No way any retirees here with pensions and ample savings are regretting not coming here early. That's just preposterous. I would regret it the other way around however

Edited July 25, 2013 by Nana Cowboy

[Ace of Pop]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

I did the opposite and spent 12 years as a phony English teacher. These were very happy years. I'd often think of being stuck in the middle of the North Sea in the sideways snow when following the career I'd wrongly chosen as an engineer in the oil industry.

Good for You. Honesty at last.I did too but it payed well,so now im FREE. .So did many here but wont admitt it.

[handSumMan]

i would be way too sketched to ever run a business in thailand.

[handSumMan]

i would be way too sketched to ever run a business in thailand.

im about to watch apocalypse now..

[Cheapcharly]

i would be way too sketched to ever run a business in thailand.

im about to watch apocalypse now..

apocalypse now is broadcasted 24h on usa debt counter of fox channel ... Google it and enjoy your show... helicopters flying higher every second...

[Neeranam]

forget the UK pension back-payments and to use the money gamble in something I knew a lot about and had a +ve EV(expected value). incidentally, he's now telling me to buy the gold again.

UK class 2 NI payments at 2.50ukp/week is the best pension bargain bar none.

And soon if you paid a minimum 10 years, free health care for life too (have to return to UK for the free health care).

6 years back payments cost you 900ukp, and buy you a pension of approx 25ukp/week = 1250ukp/year.

Tell me what other investments you have made with a return of 100% per year RPI linked and guaranteed for life.

I never thought I'd hear an American Thai speaking about UK pensions. Fair dos though, you know more than I do. and I'm Scottish!

I invested in a poker tournament when in Australia 4 years ago and made a return of 25,000 % in 9 hours.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Neeranam

[Neeranam]

I arrived here for the first time aged 25 in 2003. I Stayed for 2 months and loved the partying and cheapness of it all. I returned a few times over the next few years then decided I really wanted to have a life here and stay permanently. I thought I would be happy enough with the salary as a phoney English teacher but it wasn't the case. I bit the bullet and went back to work in Europe for 8 years to the money to start a business here. I wouldn't advice anyone to sacrifice a career to stay here. Make the coin first and don't be to hasty.

But you can be miserable while "making the coin."

no no not at all. Making coin when you're young is fun fun fun. I was fortunate enough to make enough between age 25 and 40 to retire a rich man. Now I've been in Thailand for 10 years without a care in the world. I'd hate to scrounge for cash in this country. never done it never will. I don't care what others do though...like the OP. he shouldn't gloat though as it's hardly anything to gloat about and I firmly believe he regrets his own decisions on the matter. No way any retirees here with pensions and ample savings are regretting not coming here early. That's just preposterous. I would regret it the other way around however

What makes you think I'm gloating? I'm not.

I assure you I don't regret the decision to move here when I did. I have a few regrets,but then again too few to mention, about things I did after I got here.

Also, I've spoken to many retirees with nice pensions who regret not coming here earlier.

[Cheapcharly]

years ago it was good to have a good life in USA with a nice career.... or Europe.

but now, what we got there? low salary, no saving, no retirement, high tax, high debt, nasty government dropping bombs with drones, prism,... same shot all over Europe.

who want live in this horrible mess?

I prefer Thailand. i will watch the next USA crisis show from my very cheap room.

[rayongchelsea]

Thailand is much more fun when your younger as are most places.

Choices are made, but thinking that between the age of 25 and 40 money is the main motivator many will disagree.

I lived here ( the majority of the time) during those years and made a decent living, and had a fantastic time. The money happened to follow, if you don't take chances you'll never know.

Take that chance when your young.

Coming here at a certain age, plus 40 without resources borders on the insane..a decent life, without hassle requires a fair amount of money, so there is a lot of validity in your argument if you haven't got the balls to experiment with life at a young age.