new babby on the way

[rossi2000]

afternoon all.

well for the past 3 months me and my girlfreind have been waiting to see whats happening and last week it was confirmed she has a mini me growing inside her this is my first child so im new to all of this

we have been in a relationship for about 18months and she has already been to the uk to stay with me on a tourist visa for 2 months.

while we are both very happy about this, we are also sad. mainly becuase im in uk and she is in thailand. i dont think i have enough time to get a longer visa to come here before the baby is due as ideally id like the baby to be born in the uk.

i have a few questions/statements regarding some of the information ive been reading. please correct me if im wrong.

we are not married yet but were planning to get married later in the year. now we are pregnant i was thinking to bring the marriage forward. so we are both legally binded before the baby comes. this should avoid any legal and parental rights issues after the baby is born?. she has a copy of my passport which she said my names on the childs book now.

we have discussed and our just going to do the (legal) amphur wedding at this stage and do the full blown thing next year.

can someone tell me what the situation is if your not married concerning the name of the child, if we are not married would the child take her surname?

this is our plan

go for holiday and get married in a few months, so we'll be legally married, (get thai marriage cert and translate to english.

baby should be due in thailand nov/dec'ish i dont think its possible at this stage to get her over here although please tell me im wrong and it is possible..., (get thai birth certificate and get it translated to english).

go for holiday again hopefully for the birth and asap after it.

register child with uk embassy.

apply for wifes 2year uk visa (i think the next visa up from tourist is 2year)

wait 3 months for answer

upon correct answer from ukba go for another holiday and bring wife and baby back to uk.

carry on with life.

hopefully not bored you too much just wanted to get everyhting outta my head and on here.

[Mario2008]

Congratulations.

When you get married, the baby will automatically becomes your child under the law. That will also be the case if you marry after the birth.

If not married, the child will have the name of the mother. In practice many amphurs allow the child to have the father's foreign name. But officially that is not allowed.

Regarding visa advise for the UK, better ask questions here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/25-visas-and-migration-to-other-countries/

[David48]

Don't get married just because they are two separate events.

Each an amazing institute and event, they are related ... but not the same.

When you do marry ... get hitched in Thailand.

The baby can be recognised with you as the Father is the paperwork is correct.

With this recognition, the baby will get Duel Citizenship, as of right (if your UK citizenship is sound).

Mario2008 - just read your post while typing this.

Is what I said above re the paperwork and recognition of him as the Father incorrect?

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[rossi2000]

Don't get married just because they are two separate events.

Each an amazing institute and event, they are related ... but not the same.

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hi david

i dont quite understand the first 2 sentences of your post? can you elaborate on it please?

Congratulations.

When you get married, the baby will automatically becomes your child under the law. That will also be the case if you marry after the birth.

If not married, the child will have the name of the mother. In practice many amphurs allow the child to have the father's foreign name. But officially that is not allowed.

Regarding visa advise for the UK, better ask questions here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/25-visas-and-migration-to-other-countries/

thx for the info mario2008

[marstons]

I have a child and not married to her, no problem what so ever getting my surname on the birth certificate at Pattaya City Hall. Thai lawyer translation also shows my surname.

Edited July 2, 2013 by marstons

[David48]

Don't get married just because they are two separate events.

Each an amazing institute and event, they are related ... but not the same.

hi david

i dont quite understand the first 2 sentences of your post? can you elaborate on it please?

Sorry mate ... my bad ...

That should have read ...

Don't get married just because you are having a baby ... they are two separate events.

Each an amazing institute and event, they are related ... but not the same.

The pressure in Thailand is less to link babies and marriage.

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[Mario2008]

Don't get married just because they are two separate events.

Each an amazing institute and event, they are related ... but not the same.

When you do marry ... get hitched in Thailand.

The baby can be recognised with you as the Father is the paperwork is correct.

With this recognition, the baby will get Duel Citizenship, as of right (if your UK citizenship is sound).

Mario2008 - just read your post while typing this.

Is what I said above re the paperwork and recognition of him as the Father incorrect?

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recognition with the corect paperwork at the Embassy is possible so the child will have dual nationality. But that is not a recognition (legitimisation) of the child under Thai law. As far as Thai law will be concerned, the mother has sole custody.

Easiest is to get married before the baby is born.

[krisb]

Congratulations mate!...Dont be sad, its a happy time but not easy for alot of us being in the same overseas situation. Dont stress or worry too much, time will sort it all out. Im not much help being from Australia but I wish you guys best of luck and things will work themselves out!

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Get married at the Amphur office ASAP.

Makes everything so much easier for you in Thailand.

Very few negative effects no matter what happens in the future.

Forget the village wedding, waste of money and time.

Congratulations!

Edited July 3, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[EyesWideOpen]

Congratulations !!!! I have a three year old daughter with my Thai girlfriend who is the light of my life. We are not married, and she does not

seem particularly worried about that. At the government registration office I was given the choice of using my last name

or hers. With a ten second decision window, I chose to use her last name. That was a mistake, and I now will have to change

her name to match mine. My daughter now has a Thai and a USA passport. As we were not married, the embassy required a

DNA test ,which was fine with me, as I wanted to know 100 % it was my child. Not sure what the UK will require.

I also got her the USA passport within a few months after she was born, just in case I got run over by a bus.... :-)

[Mario2008]

Congratulations !!!! I have a three year old daughter with my Thai girlfriend who is the light of my life. We are not married, and she does not

seem particularly worried about that. At the government registration office I was given the choice of using my last name

or hers. With a ten second decision window, I chose to use her last name. That was a mistake, and I now will have to change

her name to match mine. My daughter now has a Thai and a USA passport. As we were not married, the embassy required a

DNA test ,which was fine with me, as I wanted to know 100 % it was my child. Not sure what the UK will require.

I also got her the USA passport within a few months after she was born, just in case I got run over by a bus.... :-)

Unless you are the legal father of the child and went to court to become recognised as such, you might not be able to change the name.

A Thai citizen must have a name that has a meaning in Thai, including its last name. "Eyeswideopen" will not do, but you might be lucky. Depends on the amphur and officer there.