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Flying from Moscow to BKK without having a visa in the passport

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Have you ever flown out of Moscow (with a non Russian passport) into Bangkok without having a thai visa.

With my oz passport Im entitled to a 30 day visa on arrival ( 'visa exempt entry') and thus dont have to have a pre arranged visa to fly into the kingdom.

However, airlines these days are acting as immigration officers and can be very stupid and prevent someone like me from boarding - because they dont know the rules. And its Russia need I say anything more...

I booked the ticket with S7 but its an Ethiad flight.

Do you think I will have problems in moscow airport when checking in at ethiad with no visa /? Have you done this before yourself?

I wonder if I should have a printed e ticket proving a flight out of thailand within the 30 days?

Maybe I could print a page out from a thai immig website. Can you provide a link?

I dont want to apply for a singe entry tourist visa because I dont need the full 2 months.

thanks for your opinion

I did this flight several years ago, but can't remember the details. I booked with S7 also and was lucky to end up on a Thai Air flight! Great stuff.

If you have a flight out within 30 days you just need to show that and you will be OK. Otherwise, you could be denied boarding if you don't have a valid visa. Don't blame the airlines, they are just enforcing Thailand's immigration rules. If they don't, they could be held responsible for flying you back to your origination...at their expense. Some airlines check this very closely, others don't. It's not worth the risk.

Let's move this over to the visa forum and see what others have to say.

Topic moved.

As said you are required to held documents for next destination to receive visa exempt entry.

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Although Thai immigration rarely, if ever, asks for an onward ticket if your passport does not have a visa, it is the official requirement to enter Thailand on a 30 day visa- exempt entry. I think the aggravation is that it is inconsistently enforced by airlines. My suggestion is either get a single entry tourist visa or have proof of a flight out of Thailand within 30 days - or be prepared for possible difficulties on check-in.

whistling.gif You will need an out of country ticket for a 30 day non visa arrival in Thailand OR a tourist visa.

Let me correct one thing.

The airline is not trying to enforce this because of Thai immigration policies.

ALL international airlines are subject to IATA rules and regulations.

IATA specifies that any AIRLINE that flies a passenger to an international destination is responsible for that passenger if for some reason that passenger is not allowed to enter that country by that country's immigration.

In that case the AIRLINE that agreed to deliver the passenger that was not allowed entry must deal with that passenger at there own expense.

In short, the AIRLINE will be held responsible for a passenger not allowed entry by the destination country's immigration rules.

That's why the AIRLINES are checking that passengers meet the IATA regulations. Otherwise, if a passenger was not accepted at the destination country, the AIRLINE may have to pay the cost of whatever is done to get that passenger safely to another destination.

The airline will check for that visa or onward ticket just so if something goes wrong the airline won't have to pay.

An airline makes money from the passengers they can deliver sucessfully, they make no profit from carrying passengers that they know might be rejected by the destination country.

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Having any flight out, even if it's not within 30 days is a good idea. Most airlines don't check the exact dates, they merely want to see if you have a flight out - having a flight out from Singapore i.e. an open jaw ticket, also works though strictly speaking it's supposed to be a flight leaving from a Thai airport (usually Bangkok) but in practice with the number of travelers that have all sorts of itineraries when they enter Thailand nobody is going to enforce the requirement of having a flight booked out of Thailand. If it looks like you will be returning to Aus from say Singapore, then that qualifies as proof of outbound travel. However, it sounds like you don't intend to fly out of Thailand within this time so print out an itinerary from say THAI Airways www.thaiair.com (book more than a week in advance), select the "pay later at office" option so you don't have to pay a cent, print that out, show it, get on the plane and you won't have to fly onwards from Thailand anymore if you don't want to.

whistling.gif You will need an out of country ticket for a 30 day non visa arrival in Thailand OR a tourist visa.

Let me correct one thing.

The airline is not trying to enforce this because of Thai immigration policies.

ALL international airlines are subject to IATA rules and regulations.

IATA specifies that any AIRLINE that flies a passenger to an international destination is responsible for that passenger if for some reason that passenger is not allowed to enter that country by that country's immigration.

In that case the AIRLINE that agreed to deliver the passenger that was not allowed entry must deal with that passenger at there own expense.

In short, the AIRLINE will be held responsible for a passenger not allowed entry by the destination country's immigration rules.

That's why the AIRLINES are checking that passengers meet the IATA regulations. Otherwise, if a passenger was not accepted at the destination country, the AIRLINE may have to pay the cost of whatever is done to get that passenger safely to another destination.

The airline will check for that visa or onward ticket just so if something goes wrong the airline won't have to pay.

An airline makes money from the passengers they can deliver sucessfully, they make no profit from carrying passengers that they know might be rejected by the destination country.

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Airlines are subject to the rules of the country they land, not IATA. IATA is just a central clearing house for the rules that various countries say they require. IATA is not going to fine the airline - the country involved will and if there are repeated offences may restrict air service of that airline.

I you don't have a return or onward ticket out within 30 days of arrival I suggest you buy a one way ticket to any nearby country.

Air Asia has low cost flights especially if you buy them a month or more in advance.

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I you don't have a return or onward ticket out within 30 days of arrival I suggest you buy a one way ticket to any nearby country.

Air Asia has low cost flights especially if you buy them a month or more in advance.

No need - read my post. Book a THAI Airways ticket (not Air Asia, as you can't do this with them) for a random date say 2 or 4 weeks from your date of travel, select the pay later option as you don't need to pay until 72 hours have elapsed. Print out and show them that itinerary. I have done so many times, especially for friends and it has always worked. For example, I booked a "pay later" flight from Yangon to Bangkok on THAI (indeed, for this routing there is no other option, you can't pay online) and my Vietnamese friend showed it to the Vietnam Airlines staff at Ho Chi Minh City airport for his one way flight to Yangon. In the end, he didn't even fly out of Yangon but out of Mandalay (with me) so the point of that booking was to satisfy airport check-in counter staff after which that booking was automatically cancelled by the system for non-payment. If you book with THAI and select the pay later option, you don't pay a cent. Forget Air Asia - you'll pay no matter what, even if it's not much - it isn't worth it...book with THAI.

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The update on my thread above is that Etihad did not even ask about a thai visa when I checked in. They did not ask to see an outward bound ticket and nor did the thai immigration when I was stamped the 30 day VOA.

I had a ticket outward bound in my bag as a backup if necessary.

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