engine oil

[oldgent]

how many times does a new car need an oil change in the first year ?

[transam]

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

[shariq607]

Depends on the oil used and how much you drive, generally speaking, oil change frequency is determined by kms traveled but the general rule of thumb is changing at least every 10,000 km for fully synthetic motor oil, however if you don't drive much then its probably a good idea to change once every year

[shariq607]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

[transam]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

As I said, as an ex race engine builder, that is what I would do to ensure engine longevity of any engine. It is 2013 now and that is still what I would do. If YOU want to save a few baht that is up to YOU. Please don't knock MY suggestion to another member who I am forwarding MY input to advise.

[Bung]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

That is what Transam is saying. Change the oil and filter at the first 1000km. Which is right. My new car oil changes are 1000, 5000 (as it is mineral oil for break in) then it goes on to synthetic and changes are every 10000.

As always, consult your handbook. If you don't have one in English ask your dealer for one.

[Bung]

Actually, I prefer to change it at around 100klm, then 1000 etc. that is what I do with my bikes and its surprising the amount of metal particles were in the oil after 100klm, I did it myself and checked the old oil in the sunlight, easy to see in the bottom of the pan.

[transam]

Actually, I prefer to change it at around 100klm, then 1000 etc. that is what I do with my bikes and its surprising the amount of metal particles were in the oil after 100klm, I did it myself and checked the old oil in the sunlight, easy to see in the bottom of the pan.

Correct chum, been there and got the T-shirt. In fact when I bought ''new'' electric fuel pumps I would take them out the box and strip them down, why, I always found machining crap in them.

[John 1]

Actually, I prefer to change it at around 100klm, then 1000 etc. that is what I do with my bikes and its surprising the amount of metal particles were in the oil after 100klm, I did it myself and checked the old oil in the sunlight, easy to see in the bottom of the pan.

Correct chum, been there and got the T-shirt. In fact when I bought ''new'' electric fuel pumps I would take them out the box and strip them down, why, I always found machining crap in them.

What do you expect if you buy crap from china.

[transam]

Actually, I prefer to change it at around 100klm, then 1000 etc. that is what I do with my bikes and its surprising the amount of metal particles were in the oil after 100klm, I did it myself and checked the old oil in the sunlight, easy to see in the bottom of the pan.

Correct chum, been there and got the T-shirt. In fact when I bought ''new'' electric fuel pumps I would take them out the box and strip them down, why, I always found machining crap in them.

What do you expect if you buy crap from china.

You could be right there. Most race stuff I imported from the USA was actually made in Taiwan.

[shariq607]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

As I said, as an ex race engine builder, that is what I would do to ensure engine longevity of any engine. It is 2013 now and that is still what I would do. If YOU want to save a few baht that is up to YOU. Please don't knock MY suggestion to another member who I am forwarding MY input to advise.

Are you trying to imply that you know more than manufacturers such as toyota and honda that spend billions of dollars on engine research? its not a question of saving up a few bucks but it is world leading manufacturers such as toyota and honda which are proven to be one of the world's most reliable car manufacturers and all of their cars today comes with factory filled synthetic engine oil and they as well as the owner's manual instruct to change oil every 10,000 km and no where mentions first 1000km oil change

[transam]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

As I said, as an ex race engine builder, that is what I would do to ensure engine longevity of any engine. It is 2013 now and that is still what I would do. If YOU want to save a few baht that is up to YOU. Please don't knock MY suggestion to another member who I am forwarding MY input to advise.

Are you trying to imply that you know more than manufacturers such as toyota and honda that spend billions of dollars on engine research? its not a question of saving up a few bucks but it is world leading manufacturers such as toyota and honda which are proven to be one of the world's most reliable car manufacturers and all of their cars today comes with factory filled synthetic engine oil and they as well as the owner's manual instruct to change oil every 10,000 km and no where mentions first 1000km oil change

Yes.

Those of us who have been involved with stuff post here to I hope help. A manufacturer relies on the filter to do all the work.

YOU tell me/us how the engine bores are lubricated, I ask as you seem to be the expert here.

[Ace of Pop]

Hondas don't fit Diesel Engines. Benzie Lumps don't run under as much pressure as a Clonker. You can't change truck oil too often,even with synthetic, it up to you how much you love your investment. As long as the motor doesn't blow up before the Warranty has run out Manufactures don't give rats ass.They make their money on spares.

[oldgent]

thanks to all with positive answers. the car is almost 9 months it has 20,000 on the clock and the oil

plus service has been done 3 times.

[IMHO]

Does no-one RTFM LOL?

I'm a little surprised no-one came back with 52 times, or even 365 - oh no wait, that's how many times you need to check your tire pressures every year

[Ace of Pop]

Does no-one RTFM LOL?

I'm a little surprised no-one came back with 52 times, or even 365 - oh no wait, that's how many times you need to check your tire pressures every year

............................................................................................................................................................................................................. Can't you just leave confusing posts to Me...

[Lancelot]

Transam is giving good advice. Google some thing like "How to get 300,000 miles with my car" and you will be advised to do the first oil change and filter at 1,000 kms (600 miles) Most motorcycle manuals advise the first oil change at 1,000 kms, so why not do it for your car?

[IMHO]

Transam is giving good advice. Google some thing like "How to get 300,000 miles with my car" and you will be advised to do the first oil change and filter at 1,000 kms (600 miles) Most motorcycle manuals advise the first oil change at 1,000 kms, so why not do it for your car?

Bah humbug! Old school knowledge that's just not applicable to today's tech at all.

OK, OK, I do also change oil at 1,000KM, but it's only because my expat pensioner friends have successfully scared me into it

[kartman]

Does no-one RTFM LOL?

I'm a little surprised no-one came back with 52 times, or even 365 - oh no wait, that's how many times you need to check your tire pressures every year

I'm an intercity 5 ton D Max driver/owner so i'll go with a big 0

[thailoht]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

As I said, as an ex race engine builder, that is what I would do to ensure engine longevity of any engine. It is 2013 now and that is still what I would do. If YOU want to save a few baht that is up to YOU. Please don't knock MY suggestion to another member who I am forwarding MY input to advise.

TransAm is exactly right!

This is one of those instances where 'experience' is talking.

[transam]

Transam is giving good advice. Google some thing like "How to get 300,000 miles with my car" and you will be advised to do the first oil change and filter at 1,000 kms (600 miles) Most motorcycle manuals advise the first oil change at 1,000 kms, so why not do it for your car?

Bah humbug! Old school knowledge that's just not applicable to today's tech at all.

OK, OK, I do also change oil at 1,000KM, but it's only because my expat pensioner friends have successfully scared me into it

We care. .......................

[Ace of Pop]

I give My Dogs things they dont need because i Love Em.

[transam]

I give My Dogs things they dont need because i Love Em.

Not Grahams Vintage Port with a chunk of Cheshire cheese I hope.

[transam]

you dont need to change oil for the first 1000 km. what decade are you living in?

Depends on the type of oil used. BUT, change oil and filter first 1000km, then if mineral oil, 5000km (or 6 months if less km), semi synthetic 8/10,000km, synthetic can go to 15,000km. Your hand book will tell you stuff but this is what l would do.

As I said, as an ex race engine builder, that is what I would do to ensure engine longevity of any engine. It is 2013 now and that is still what I would do. If YOU want to save a few baht that is up to YOU. Please don't knock MY suggestion to another member who I am forwarding MY input to advise.

TransAm is exactly right!

This is one of those instances where 'experience' is talking.

Thanks, on this forum we really DO try to help. If folk want to live in the 3 year warranty thing, great. For those like me who want longevity, then listen to me. I don't care about folk who want to save a few baht on oil, I care about answering a question via the bit of knowledge I have.

Rock on folk.

[Bung]

My new Subaru has semi synthetic 15w 40 from new. Manual states oil and filter change at 1000klm again using 15w 40 then again at 5000klm and switch to 5w 30 fully synthetic, Mobil 1

It's pretty simple, just follow what the user manual states.

I'd be surprised if manufactures used full synthetic from the factory, if that was the case I wouldn't be happy as it hinders proper running in.

[transam]

My new Subaru has semi synthetic 15w 40 from new. Manual states oil and filter change at 1000klm again using 15w 40 then again at 5000klm and switch to 5w 30 fully synthetic, Mobil 1

It's pretty simple, just follow what the user manual states.

I'd be surprised if manufactures used full synthetic from the factory, if that was the case I wouldn't be happy as it hinders proper running in.

Yep, your Subaru is not relying on the filter to stop cylinder crap damage in it's early life. Most engine cylinder wall lubrication is by splash, the rotating crankshaft picks up the oil from the sump and throws it into the cylinders below the piston. This is unfiltered oil. The crap in that oil l am talking about in a new engine is perhaps stuff you cannot see with the eye but it can cause premature wear.

Sorry to go on but I like to add stuff for those who might be interested to learn a bit about how it works.

[Ace of Pop]

Never hear much about U.C.L. these days. A Squirt of Redex per Gallon i think it was.

[transam]

Never hear much about U.C.L. these days. A Squirt of Redex per Gallon i think it was.

Yeh, I remember that stuff, the days when near every engine was stuffed after 80,000 miles.

[shariq607]

My new Subaru has semi synthetic 15w 40 from new. Manual states oil and filter change at 1000klm again using 15w 40 then again at 5000klm and switch to 5w 30 fully synthetic, Mobil 1

It's pretty simple, just follow what the user manual states.

I'd be surprised if manufactures used full synthetic from the factory, if that was the case I wouldn't be happy as it hinders proper running in.

And how do you know the fact that the process of breaking in hasn't already been performed in the factory? you do realize the fact that modern engines are tested at full potential and capacity under strict observations at assembly lines for passing strict quality control standards and protocol? i am not trying to argue here but please do realize the fact that we are living in 2013 and the japs know what they are talking about.

[transam]

My new Subaru has semi synthetic 15w 40 from new. Manual states oil and filter change at 1000klm again using 15w 40 then again at 5000klm and switch to 5w 30 fully synthetic, Mobil 1

It's pretty simple, just follow what the user manual states.

I'd be surprised if manufactures used full synthetic from the factory, if that was the case I wouldn't be happy as it hinders proper running in.

And how do you know the fact that the process of breaking in hasn't already been performed in the factory? you do realize the fact that modern engines are tested at full potential and capacity under strict observations at assembly lines ? i am not trying to argue here but please do realize the fact that we are living in 2013 and the japs know what they are talking about.

Sadly you STILL don't understand mechanical engineering stuff. Stick to your iPhone, it's your Jap thing.