Thai police shootout with drug dealer kills university student

[Bluespunk]

Anyone in a car fleeing from police deserves what they get.

No they don't. The driver alone bears responsibility for a car's movement.

[thhMan]

What are the reasons to flee... They are police officers doing their duty.

Was it a bungled job to take the loot for themselves?

Unless they knew full well, that they had shot and killed the passenger, there should have been no reason to flee. Did they check the body first, then flee?

If they are not shooting each other, they are shooting anyone that is in the way... Thats why people do not go to zoo's and give monkeys firearms, as there is no telling what can happen.

[ironhorse10]

The reason the cops fled the sceen was to hide the stash of dope they recoverd after the dealers ran. I'm sure there was money in the car also.

[dave1212]

but Mr. Santisuk suddenly caught the wind and drove away.

Was he flying a kite?

[NoBrainer]

Maybe they had to flee the scene as they needed time to stash their booty, before their superior officers arrived. Wouldn't want to cut the pie up into too many slices now would we.

[Pimay1]

but Mr. Santisuk suddenly caught the wind and drove away.

Was he flying a kite?

I figured it was a typo and should have read but Mr. Santisuk suddenly broke wind and drove away.

[peecee]

Police fleeing the scene.... just when you thought you'd heard it all.

Hope they remembered to plant some empty shell's & dope in the car before they legged it, otherwise it's the full force of the law for these guy's(busted to cpl for a month no doubt)!

[Globeman]

Let me get this straight... the cops ran away after what seems like a justified shootout?? People were shooting at them from the backseat of the car why wouldn't they return fire?

Crazy Thailand and just goes to show you the Thai Police are a joke.

Let me guess... You'd be American, right? Get the bad guy at all costs. Justified shootout? When they don't know who all the people were in the car? the girl may have had nothing to do with the drugs. It sounds like the police started firing first - lethal force to stop a suspected drug dealer... bit excessive, don't you think? Though it may look good in American cop shows, shooting pistols from one moving vehicle at another during a high-speed chase is stupidly reckless. Bullets can fly anywhere, and the cars themselves, which make excellent murder weapons, can flatten innocent bystanders. The cops can be much smarter about it, getting the license number breaking off a chase that endangers many innocent people, and tracking down the vehicle... radioing ahead to other cops. But it's more fun to play the hero I guess - and end up killing someone who is most likely innocent, and if not, deserved at least a trial.

[weka]

What the hell is an "innocent" university student doing in the car of an alleged drug dealer and his accomplices (on the backseat) while they're supposedly on their rounds delivering illicit merchandise?

As the saying goes: "Caught together, hung together".

No sympathy from me, because I suspect she knew exactly who they were and what they were doing.

Oh, and now poor mom is up in arms and wants to sue for - probably - millions of baht. Perhaps she should have taught her daughter not to associate with drug dealers in the first place.

As per the fleeing police officers, it really doesn't get much more absurd than that.

You do realise that is the same as the "well if the farang wasn't in Thailand this wouldn't have happened" excuse that "stupid Thais" are accused of saying?

Now you say "no it's not, because the farang wasn't doing anything wrong, and the young girl deserved to die at the hands of the people sworn to protect her because she was with a baddie and I "suspect" she deserved to die for that"

No sympathy from me because I "suspect" you are the greatest human on the planet.

[Shagz]

It's like the old cowboys and Indians movies riding their horses and shooting at each other only in cars which makes it even more dangerous, just lucky other innocent bystanders didn't get shot or run over, the chase was probably high speed to which is another danger to the public, ok the plan failed so you get him later not act like imbeciles then run.

[Globeman]

Anyone in a car fleeing from police deserves what they get.

Yes, they should issue police with grenade launchers so that anyone who dares to defy the police gets their car blown to tiny bits - and if the public is informed of this, it is entirely their own fault because they knew beforehand what would happen.

[harrry]

Anyone in a car fleeing from police deserves what they get.

Yes, they should issue police with grenade launchers so that anyone who dares to defy the police gets their car blown to tiny bits - and if the public is informed of this, it is entirely their own fault because they knew beforehand what would happen.

Yes possibly they should.

If you do the crime be prepared to do the time. If you try to evade that it is at your risk. And accomanying someone while engaged in crime means that applies to them to.

[Bluespunk]

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Anyone in a car fleeing from police deserves what they get.

Yes, they should issue police with grenade launchers so that anyone who dares to defy the police gets their car blown to tiny bits - and if the public is informed of this, it is entirely their own fault because they knew beforehand what would happen.

Yes possibly they should.

If you do the crime be prepared to do the time. If you try to evade that it is at your risk. And accomanying someone while engaged in crime means that applies to them to.

The woman was in the car. She could have just been getting a lift somewhere. She had no control over the drivers actions or his criminality. She did not deserve to die for being in the car.

[Globeman]

What the hell is an "innocent" university student doing in the car of an alleged drug dealer and his accomplices (on the backseat) while they're supposedly on their rounds delivering illicit merchandise?

As the saying goes: "Caught together, hung together".

No sympathy from me, because I suspect she knew exactly who they were and what they were doing.

Oh, and now poor mom is up in arms and wants to sue for - probably - millions of baht. Perhaps she should have taught her daughter not to associate with drug dealers in the first place.

As per the fleeing police officers, it really doesn't get much more absurd than that.

Since we are relying on the wisdom of old old sayings for our moral guidance, there is another saying - by Shakespeare: "Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind".

And Oscar Wilde hoes in with: "If there was less sympathy in the world, there would be less trouble in the world."

[Globeman]

Anyone in a car fleeing from police deserves what they get.

Yes, they should issue police with grenade launchers so that anyone who dares to defy the police gets their car blown to tiny bits - and if the public is informed of this, it is entirely their own fault because they knew beforehand what would happen.

Yes possibly they should.

If you do the crime be prepared to do the time. If you try to evade that it is at your risk. And accomanying someone while engaged in crime means that applies to them to.

"Accompanying someone while engaged in crime applies to them to [sic]" What law school did you attend? Ummm.. no it doesn't apply to them too. The police are supposed to attempt to discover if the person along for the ride was aware of the crime being committed. Even if they believe that, they have to prove it. If they are aware, they are aiding and and abetting, or accessories to the crime. The punishment is generally far less than what applies to the perpetrator... and all this after what they call a "Trial". You know, the restrictions on police to just shoot anyone they suspect (or "know") is guilty of a crime is not to protect the criminals. Due process, pain in the arse that it may be, is there to protect the innocent. If police are allowed to determine guilt and execute 'suspects' on the spot, you could be next, innocent or not.

[nahkit]

What the hell is an "innocent" university student doing in the car of an alleged drug dealer and his accomplices (on the backseat) while they're supposedly on their rounds delivering illicit merchandise?

As the saying goes: "Caught together, hung together".

No sympathy from me, because I suspect she knew exactly who they were and what they were doing.

Oh, and now poor mom is up in arms and wants to sue for - probably - millions of baht. Perhaps she should have taught her daughter not to associate with drug dealers in the first place.

As per the fleeing police officers, it really doesn't get much more absurd than that.

You do realise that is the same as the "well if the farang wasn't in Thailand this wouldn't have happened" excuse that "stupid Thais" are accused of saying?

Now you say "no it's not, because the farang wasn't doing anything wrong, and the young girl deserved to die at the hands of the people sworn to protect her because she was with a baddie and I "suspect" she deserved to die for that"

No sympathy from me because I "suspect" you are the greatest human on the planet.

Is this a TV first, a member talking to himself in a post?

[mikemac]

I have to laugh at the people who always come out swinging when these cases make the news and make the same tired, old comments - "No sympathy from me".........."They deserved what they got"..........."It's their fault, teach them to hang around with crims"....................etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.......................................

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

[mikemac]

I have to laugh at the people who always come out swinging when these cases make the news and make the same tired, old comments - "No sympathy from me".........."They deserved what they got"..........."It's their fault, teach them to hang around with crims"....................etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.......................................

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

[mikemac]

I have to laugh at the people who always come out swinging when these cases make the news and make the same tired, old comments - "No sympathy from me".........."They deserved what they got"..........."It's their fault, teach them to hang around with crims"....................etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.......................................

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

[mikemac]

I have to laugh at the people who always come out swinging when these cases make the news and make the same tired, old comments - "No sympathy from me".........."They deserved what they got"..........."It's their fault, teach them to hang around with crims"....................etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.......................................

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

If you have many friends whose children hang out with drug dealers and gangsters, one begins to suspect you should be looking for a better class of friend. Decent people usually have children with decent values, although the odd 'bad apple' can appear. Many decent people in a friendship circle with druggie children, I think not.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

If you have many friends whose children hang out with drug dealers and gangsters, one begins to suspect you should be looking for a better class of friend. Decent people usually have children with decent values, although the odd 'bad apple' can appear. Many decent people in a friendship circle with druggie children, I think not.

[mikemac]

Read my comment again, I said "too many friends"........if you have a fair understanding of the English language you will know it is not the same as "many friends".

As far as I am concerned even one friend going through something like that is too many.

When I wrote "similar circumstances" I did not actually mean they were with gangsters being chased by police and shot. Perhaps I did not word that well.

And I don't need you to judge the quality of my friends, never have, never will.

[Colabamumbai]

According to the report, the police shot first. From behind. What did they think would happen? They would shoot any passengers in the back seats before touching the driver.

How irresponsible is that? That is murder, plain and simple. No wonder they ran away in panic, they just murdered a girl.

No responsible police force on the planet would train officers to behave like this. You give chase, radio for assistance, you don't shoot randomly at a car from behind.

Drug dealing is bad. Being a police officer without regard for human life is just beyond words. They shouldn't have guns if they can't use them at the right times.

And by the way, its not just Thais that ran away from accidents they cause. Yesterday a farang swerved into my gf on her motorbike, knocked her off, said "you ok", then jumped back onto his bike and sped off. We were both disgusted. I have seen lots of minor accidents like this. Thais wouldn't behave do that. They would stop, help you up, say sorry, call an ambulance, offer to help with doctor bils.

So no, "running away from things you cause" is not just a Thai disease. Does happen with Thais of course, but us "perfect" farangs do it as well.

As the 2 drunk Thais walked along the side of the highway facing me, one of them kicked over my motorcycle, I was driving slowly and my face was covered. They did not offer assistance, they did not call for help. I went to the police and then to the hospital with police assistance.

When I had the police report here in Kalasin translated into English, there is no mention of a Thai man kicking me over on the bike, it says only that I dropped the bike.

[harrry]

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

If you have many friends whose children hang out with drug dealers and gangsters, one begins to suspect you should be looking for a better class of friend. Decent people usually have children with decent values, although the odd 'bad apple' can appear. Many decent people in a friendship circle with druggie children, I think not.

And I have seen nice people lose their children through the activities of people who deal drugs.

[khunken]

Right up until the moment it happens to a son, daughter, other family member, or good friend. Suddenly they change their tune.

Unfortunately I have too many friends who have lost their kids in similar circumstances. Am yet to see one of them say..."No sympathy from me"..........

I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone thought like that.

If you have many friends whose children hang out with drug dealers and gangsters, one begins to suspect you should be looking for a better class of friend. Decent people usually have children with decent values, although the odd 'bad apple' can appear. Many decent people in a friendship circle with druggie children, I think not.

I don't know who my 'children' hang out with - they're in their 30s. Making assumptions that the victim was 'hanging out' with a drug dealer is not in any way proven & she was not a child in any case,. She was a passenger in a car - no need to call her anything else without real knowledge of the incident.

Presumably, using the same false argument, a toddler of a drug dealer is fair game for shooting too. The shooting was murder - which the police probably realised before running away. Ms Sunisa was an innocent victim of a very wrong way to try to apprehend an alleged drug dealer.

[belg]

this should be international news

and reported to every embassy

when "even" (yes we know the brown envelope BIB) police is fleeing the scene of something they did

responsabili- WHAT ?

[Briggsy]

They ran away to give their patron, probably a police colonel or higher, time and space to negotiate the best deal possible on their behalf. Then they hand themselves in when the deal is arranged.

[PoodMaiDai]

Police fleeing the scene.... just when you thought you'd heard it all.

Happens every day, all over the world.

- The Thai Apologist.

[PoodMaiDai]

Police fleeing the scene.... just when you thought you'd heard it all.

Happens every day, all over the world.

- The Thai Apologist.