Toyota Pre-runner...will mods void 3 year warranty?

[richy2201]

Sorry for opening another topic as this was briefly covered in a previous thread....

Having just taken ownership of new Toyota pre-runner pickup, I have just ordered a Top-up (lid) with roll bar for this to be fitted next week by a shop in Pattaya (NOT Toyota).

I was wondering will this void my 3-year warranty with my Toyota dealership as I neglected to ask them this myself (which I will be doing before/if I fit this lid) though I am interested to hear from others if they have done the same.....also, as mentioned in previous thread I will change to 20 inch rims, would this have any effect on warranty?

Thanks in advance

[anon210]

Short answer:

- If you are modifying any item (in the sense of plugging anything straight into) of the electric system, the warranty will be voided on that element. Hence, check that the lid is not electric.

- If you are installing new rims, this will void the warranty on the drive train.

[transam]

Big wheels are a no-no. Plus you don't need them.

[mogandave]

I don't think the hooking up the electric to power the lid will void the warranty, unless there is reason to believe the install caused the problem.

[mcdiver]

dont worry about warranty

the hilux is almost bullet proof

just remember to let the turbo cool down after long or hard driving

the best upgrade is 20 inch wheels and good tires

drives better, feels better looks way better

go for the all electric super up lid, they say thats the best

get a chip or better a piggy back for better performance, the 1kd have a lot of untapped reserves...

enjoy your new ride, I do with mine...

[jbrain]

Short answer:

- If you are modifying any item (in the sense of plugging anything straight into) of the electric system, the warranty will be voided on that element. Hence, check that the lid is not electric.

- If you are installing new rims, this will void the warranty on the drive train.

An electric lid is hooked up to the battery, nothing to do with the electric system of the car.

If that would void the warranty, then so would do installing an extra loud horn.

[anon210]

Short answer:

- If you are modifying any item (in the sense of plugging anything straight into) of the electric system, the warranty will be voided on that element. Hence, check that the lid is not electric.

- If you are installing new rims, this will void the warranty on the drive train.

An electric lid is hooked up to the battery, nothing to do with the electric system of the car.

If that would void the warranty, then so would do installing an extra loud horn.

Any modification not approved/sold/endorsed by the constructor will indeed void the warranty. Same for the horn you mention.

[jbrain]

Short answer:

- If you are modifying any item (in the sense of plugging anything straight into) of the electric system, the warranty will be voided on that element. Hence, check that the lid is not electric.

- If you are installing new rims, this will void the warranty on the drive train.

An electric lid is hooked up to the battery, nothing to do with the electric system of the car.

If that would void the warranty, then so would do installing an extra loud horn.

Any modification not approved/sold/endorsed by the constructor will indeed void the warranty. Same for the horn you mention.

How about putting some stronger bulbs in the interior lighting ?

[anon210]

Short answer:

- If you are modifying any item (in the sense of plugging anything straight into) of the electric system, the warranty will be voided on that element. Hence, check that the lid is not electric.

- If you are installing new rims, this will void the warranty on the drive train.

An electric lid is hooked up to the battery, nothing to do with the electric system of the car.

If that would void the warranty, then so would do installing an extra loud horn.

Any modification not approved/sold/endorsed by the constructor will indeed void the warranty. Same for the horn you mention.

How about putting some stronger bulbs in the interior lighting ?

Same thing as with accessories plugged on the cigarette lighter: they are ok, as they do not modify the circuits/structure of the electric system.

And BTW, you might want to be careful with what the dealers tell you: in case of issue, this might be checked elsewhere than at that "sympathetic" dealer, and you might get in trouble.

[jbrain]

How about putting some stronger bulbs in the interior lighting ?

Same thing as with accessories plugged on the cigarette lighter: they are ok, as they do not modify the circuits/structure of the electric system.

And BTW, you might want to be careful with what the dealers tell you: in case of issue, this might be checked elsewhere than at that "sympathetic" dealer, and you might get in trouble.

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

[anon210]

 

 

How about putting some stronger bulbs in the interior lighting ? 

 

 

 

Same thing as with accessories plugged on the cigarette lighter:  they are ok, as they do not modify the circuits/structure of the electric system.

 

And BTW, you might want to be careful with what the dealers tell you: in case of issue, this might be checked elsewhere than at that "sympathetic" dealer, and you might get in trouble.

 

 

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

It interferes with the battery at the very least... and should the constructor take issue with it, you will be hard pressed to prove your modifications did not have a deleterious effect.

[Jitar]

Richy, if you want an answer, you should read the warranty conditions or try to get a response from Toyota. Their web site http://www.toyota.co.th/en/aftersale.php?page=guarantee refers to exclusion of accessories for unusual use but does not have the usual clause about non approved modifications. I would be surprised if there is not some fine print on this topic somewhere in their documentation.

In any case, if you were to have a warranty issue, modifications will potentially add complication and may give the dealer and manufacturer an excuse to deny the claim. However, if the claim is clearly unrelated to the mod, you have a good argument and should have no problem. Effects of mods to wheels, suspension and engine can get complicated so you won't know for sure until you have a claim. If you want to play safe, don't make any mods and drive a plain Jane Hilux for 3 years.

This assumes Toyota dealer administer the warranty in a reasonable manner which some say is not the case. http://mychiangmai.com/expat-life/toyota-warranty-worthless/

The alternative is make what ever mods you think are reasonable, accept responsibility for them and the warranty risk, and enjoy your truck.

[mogandave]

How about putting some stronger bulbs in the interior lighting ?

Same thing as with accessories plugged on the cigarette lighter: they are ok, as they do not modify the circuits/structure of the electric system.

And BTW, you might want to be careful with what the dealers tell you: in case of issue, this might be checked elsewhere than at that "sympathetic" dealer, and you might get in trouble.

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

It interferes with the battery at the very least... and should the constructor take issue with it, you will be hard pressed to prove your modifications did not have a deleterious effect.

Exactly. Were the top wired direct to the battery and there were a direct short, the battery could explode and do significant damage, that the manufacturer is not going to accept responsibility for.

That said, if you have top installed, and the battery explodes due to a defect in the manufacturers wiring, the manufacturer will accept responsibility.

The manufacturer is not responsible for damages only if it could reasonably be assumed to be a result of the alteration.

[jbrain]

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

It interferes with the battery at the very least... and should the constructor take issue with it, you will be hard pressed to prove your modifications did not have a deleterious effect.

Exactly. Were the top wired direct to the battery and there were a direct short, the battery could explode and do significant damage, that the manufacturer is not going to accept responsibility for.

That said, if you have top installed, and the battery explodes due to a defect in the manufacturers wiring, the manufacturer will accept responsibility.

The manufacturer is not responsible for damages only if it could reasonably be assumed to be a result of the alteration.

I don't think the OP was talking about warranty on the battery, but warranty in general e.g. Engine,gearbox etc.

If a battery explodes there is clearly a short and it will to be investigated what is the cause.

The OP is worried that Toyota will wave his warranty on the engine and other parts because he installed a top up, which is not the case.

[John 1]

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

It interferes with the battery at the very least... and should the constructor take issue with it, you will be hard pressed to prove your modifications did not have a deleterious effect.

Exactly. Were the top wired direct to the battery and there were a direct short, the battery could explode and do significant damage, that the manufacturer is not going to accept responsibility for.

That said, if you have top installed, and the battery explodes due to a defect in the manufacturers wiring, the manufacturer will accept responsibility.

The manufacturer is not responsible for damages only if it could reasonably be assumed to be a result of the alteration.

I don't think the OP was talking about warranty on the battery, but warranty in general e.g. Engine,gearbox etc.

If a battery explodes there is clearly a short and it will to be investigated what is the cause.

The OP is worried that Toyota will wave his warranty on the engine and other parts because he installed a top up, which is not the case.

I have a K & N filter installed hope my engine warranty will not be voided. It's like worrying for nothing if shit happens so be it.

[mogandave]

That was exactly my point. An electric top up is connected directly to the battery, has it's own cabling and has it's own operating buttons, so in no way does it interfere with the electrical circuit of the car.

It interferes with the battery at the very least... and should the constructor take issue with it, you will be hard pressed to prove your modifications did not have a deleterious effect.

Exactly. Were the top wired direct to the battery and there were a direct short, the battery could explode and do significant damage, that the manufacturer is not going to accept responsibility for.

That said, if you have top installed, and the battery explodes due to a defect in the manufacturers wiring, the manufacturer will accept responsibility.

The manufacturer is not responsible for damages only if it could reasonably be assumed to be a result of the alteration.

I don't think the OP was talking about warranty on the battery, but warranty in general e.g. Engine,gearbox etc.

If a battery explodes there is clearly a short and it will to be investigated what is the cause.

The OP is worried that Toyota will wave his warranty on the engine and other parts because he installed a top up, which is not the case.

I'm sorry I was not clear. If the battery explodes, it does a lot of damage, it would not just be a matter of replacing the battery. Were the battery explosion a result of something that manufacture did, then they (the manufacturer) would be responsible for all the damages to the vehicle. If the battery explodes as a result of something the owner did, the manufacturer would be responsible for none of the damages.

Another example:

If you install a shell on the back of the truck, and the right front fender is rusting through, you have not voided the warranty, and the manufacturer should repair the defect.

If you install a shell on the back of the truck, and the bed-rail is rusting through as a result of the holes you drilled, or because of moisture is being trapped between the seal and the bed rail, the manufacturer should NOT repair the defect.