My Planned estimated monthly budget for Thailand

[Soutpeel]

Absolute crock. We are trying to be realistic. You spent 6 months did you, on a shoestring too, how wonderful, but that is not living. Sure, if you want to eat and drink and live on the cheap all your life you can. Most people want and deserve more. I know plenty of people here who live that meager life, but would they like to live a better existence here--you bet they would, to the man. I have been in Southeast Asia since I was 20--and have worked here, or offshore from here, all that time. I have always had enough money to live and I have seen the cheapies come and go on these temporary extended holidays. They seldom return, unless for another cheapie holiday. This man says he intends to live here. I recommend he take some time to increase his income before he tries.

You are right about one thing, a man does not have to pay (outright) for a woman here in Thailand, just like anywhere else. However, most prefer the conveniemce of the option--if they can afford it, it's just one of the perks in the land of smiles.

Just in case you didn't see the dozens of other posts from those of us living on lower budgets than yourself......

We aren't struggling. We aren't doing without. We aren't living any sort of hardship. There's no hardcore penny pinching.

We all seem to be enjoying ourselves and in all honestly probably get out more than half the blokes who visit the gogos a couple of nights a week and burn through loads of cash.

If you're suggesting that people aren't banging hookers simply because they can't afford it then I think you'll find that a younger guy (and possibly a few older ones) has no need to pay for sex because he has so many other options that don't require payment.

If I had 1 million baht per month to spend not a drop of it would be spent on hookers. I can assure you of that.

So my 45k per month does me just fine and I'd struggle to spend much more unless I threw my money away.

back on to hookers again are we "spade".....but nice to note no mention of "your dates" or your 18 hour binge drinking sessions, or your 10 hour woke week..

BTW if you where spending THB 1.0 million/m you wouldnt be banging hookers...they would be high class escorts/companions/assistants...

[TheSpade]

The poster I was replying to mentioned paying for hookers so yes I mentioned it. How could I reply to his post if I don't address what he's written about.

You mention those things more than I do. You seem to be fixated with me.

[giggles]

where are all these expats in BKK with good gorgeous women ,cos i never see any as i move around town ,are they all bonking back home ?

occasionally you see a farang with an elegant thai women in the daytime but its not common IMO.

so where are they hiding ?

more common to see a farang slob with a small Ho ...

Go look around in the right places,5 star hotels ,3 star restaurants,emporium shopping mall,Bangkoks Bussenis district.

Maybe around rayong Chonburi where al multinational company's have high paid foreign expats working for them in management positions and such etc.....

i do in all the right places but farang with an elegant nice clean looker are rare as hens teeth .IMO

[RAZZELL]

Thai middle-management money is about 70k a month.

If you aspire to that type of lifestyle you should have have a disposal income of 70k++ extra for "farang" stuff.

100-120k.

RAZZ

[smotherb]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

[HardenedSoul]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

Shouldn't that read:

Well I've been young and now I'm old - young is better

Why?

Cos I didn't have to spend a fortune on hookers to get laid regularly when I was young

[pigeonjake]

here we go again,,

young and old,,lol

some can get this topic into any post,,lol

[NeverSure]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

Shouldn't that read:

Well I've been young and now I'm old - young is better

Why?

Cos I didn't have to spend a fortune on hookers to get laid regularly when I was young

I didn't get laid at all when I was young, I was married.

I was spending a fortune not to get laid.

Now I'm old and single and get laid a lot.

Without my home loan repayments, I could easily live on 30k a month.

For me it should read:

Well I've been young and now I'm old - old is better

Edited August 28, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[pigeonjake]

to be honest i too think you can live on 30,000 a month,

you must still be able to get a nice serviced room for 7,000,?

we all know food is very cheap, and to be honest i would sooner eat thai food, but thats only me,

cloaths are cheap,

electric cheap,

water ect

the thing that costs the most is if you want to go with the ladys,

or if your young and handsome you wont have to pay for that,

so 30,000 in my opinion you can live ok on that

these are just my thoughts as im sat here slaving away,,lol

good morning to you all,

jake, better go and ring the wife,

saying good morning before i say it to her,,lol

[Spoonman]

the thing that costs the most is if you want to go with the ladys,

Only if your living in a 4k per month room living a 30k per month existence.

[poanoi]

No need to live in a 4k room, like pigeon said, you can get a serviced room for 7k.

I replaced woman for beer myself, and admittedly it was more than 7k,

but i could still do it on 30k for as long as i didn't piss away money on insignificant others.

Edited August 28, 2013 by poanoi

[Sydneycraig]

I think food is pretty much the same price in the uk ..

[TheSpade]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

Some of us do have more money we just can't figure out a way to spend it.

It's been broken down a few times by us guys who spend in the 30-45k per month region what we're spending it on.

Everyone seems to be living a good life, plenty of socializing, no scrimping, eating well, lots of nights outs / dates, generally doing what we want to do when we want to do it.

And most importantly we all seem to be happy.

I don't think most of us NEED more money when we're living just fine with what we have though of course I'd never say no to extra cash.

I think food is pretty much the same price in the uk ..

What part of the UK were you living in?

Edited August 28, 2013 by TheSpade

[Kudel]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

yes but what about the fact that visa laws can change in Thailand ,there was an article last week about homeless foreigners in Thailand and more and more influential Thais are talking about overhauling the visa laws and a mandatory health insurance for expats so maybe those days of living on 30k per month will soon be over.

[Chittychangchang]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

[historyprof]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

yes but what about the fact that visa laws can change in Thailand ,there was an article last week about homeless foreigners in Thailand and more and more influential Thais are talking about overhauling the visa laws and a mandatory health insurance for expats so maybe those days of living on 30k per month will soon be over.

Of course they will change. Since Thailand has a labor shortage of unskilled labor the per month amount will go down to accommodate the minimum wage workers needed. You forget that the majority of expats in Thailand come from Asia.

[Kudel]

Well, it's easy to see there are those who think they are living well on B30k/mo and those who do not think so. Perhaps if those who think you can live on that little had more money, they might see things differently. To paraphrase the old saying, I've been poor and I've been rich--rich is better.

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

yes but what about the fact that visa laws can change in Thailand ,there was an article last week about homeless foreigners in Thailand and more and more influential Thais are talking about overhauling the visa laws and a mandatory health insurance for expats so maybe those days of living on 30k per month will soon be over.

Of course they will change. Since Thailand has a labor shortage of unskilled labor the per month amount will go down to accommodate the minimum wage workers needed. You forget that the majority of expats in Thailand come from Asia.

Yes but i'm talking about something else not cheap labour from Myanmar and Cambodja because Thailand loves cheap labour from said country's I'm talking about old age pensioners from first world country's and i dont think most oldage pensioners or wannabe backpackers from said first world country want to do slave labour on a schrimp farm somewhere in nakhon nowhere living the dream and most of the jobs people do from other asian country's in Thailand are ferboten for westerners.

[HardenedSoul]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

Yeah but you were young 60 years ago and inflation's taken its toll since then, hasn't it?

[historyprof]

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

yes but what about the fact that visa laws can change in Thailand ,there was an article last week about homeless foreigners in Thailand and more and more influential Thais are talking about overhauling the visa laws and a mandatory health insurance for expats so maybe those days of living on 30k per month will soon be over.

Of course they will change. Since Thailand has a labor shortage of unskilled labor the per month amount will go down to accommodate the minimum wage workers needed. You forget that the majority of expats in Thailand come from Asia.

Yes but i'm talking about something else not cheap labour from Myanmar and Cambodja because Thailand loves cheap labour from said country's I'm talking about old age pensioners from first world country's and i dont think most oldage pensioners or wannabe backpackers from said first world country want to do slave labour on a schrimp farm somewhere in nakhon nowhere living the dream and most of the jobs people do from other asian country's in Thailand are ferboten for westerners.

In that case the monthly amount for a retirement visa has not been 30K for quite some time. It has been 66,666 baht per month for quite some time.

[Spoonman]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

You are getting rorted on your Chang, Iam buying 3 for Bt.138 at my local 7/11.

My "budget" is double yours just paying the monthly outgoings and my existence is far from "high roller", infact very much akin to an existence back home.........being able to jump out for an hour or 2 and get my sack emptied though has its advantages..........love them massages.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Spoonman

[poanoi]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

You are getting rorted on your Chang, Iam buying 3 for Bt.138 at my local 7/11.

My "budget" is double yours just paying the monthly outgoings and my existence is far from "high roller", infact very much akin to an existence back home.........being able to jump out for an hour or 2 and get my sack emptied though has its advantages..........love them massages.

Ehh ! 4500/150 =30, as in a month, he is talking 3 beer per day every day over the span of a month.

doubt anyone consuming that amount of beer daily back home ever made it here.

Edited August 28, 2013 by poanoi

[nanapong]

Posted 2013-08-20 14:44:35

One has to tackle the core issue. The core issue is that people want to live in Thailand not because of the availability of sex but also of the magic of Thailand. Magic means finding cheap taxi at the speed of thought, going to affordable hospitals which are fully staffed 24/7, or almost. Finding accommodation costing a fraction of halfway similar in the Farangland. The splendor of the malls the foodcourts of delicious food at 100 baht. Delicious food is the norm in Thailand. Finding a sex partner is straightforward and hassle free like most transactions in Thailand. The list is endless. People just love Thailand and want to live here. Many tourist establishment owners In my country, during the dead season(winter) move en mass to Thailand for 2-5 months just to enjoy the country and have the 'old cheese removed'. The country I am referring is Cyprus, a tourist destination itself but no comparison to Thailand. I have been more than 15 times to Thailand and I loved every occasion. Thailand ,despite the huge language impediment and the contempt of the authorities and people, still exerts a huge attraction to all who have tasted her.

Now, the 34 yo friend, is of course under the spell and influence of this huge force and has succumbed to it. He just wants to come and stay. His financial status maybe unclear but the message is very clear, 'I want to go to Thailand'

cheers

Mario

Wow , do people in Cyprus still have money to visit Thailand. Don't tell the Troika or you'll be getting another haircut to prop up the banks. When the next bailout due ???

[Kudel]

We have many posters say they live in Thailand because it's cheaper than back home. Some have said they couldn't make it back home.

So they are going to be on a lower budget, but happy because they are doing better than they would otherwise. They are perhaps even relieved. There's no point in disparaging them. For them, they are happy.

Some famous rich people have committed suicide. Money doesn't guarantee happiness. Extreme poverty would be an unhappy event for me but fortunately I've never had that.

But for guys who don't care for bar girls at all, or drinking a lot, and who are content with a decent flat in a condo, and who may or may not have a scooter, They may be just fine on 30k. (In their eyes.) That's about what a lot of school teachers make.

If you were really struggling, there's always the option to get out into the sticks and live like a native. It beats being homeless in the home country.

yes but what about the fact that visa laws can change in Thailand ,there was an article last week about homeless foreigners in Thailand and more and more influential Thais are talking about overhauling the visa laws and a mandatory health insurance for expats so maybe those days of living on 30k per month will soon be over.

Of course they will change. Since Thailand has a labor shortage of unskilled labor the per month amount will go down to accommodate the minimum wage workers needed. You forget that the majority of expats in Thailand come from Asia.

Yes but i'm talking about something else not cheap labour from Myanmar and Cambodja because Thailand loves cheap labour from said country's I'm talking about old age pensioners from first world country's and i dont think most oldage pensioners or wannabe backpackers from said first world country want to do slave labour on a schrimp farm somewhere in nakhon nowhere living the dream and most of the jobs people do from other asian country's in Thailand are ferboten for westerners.

In that case the monthly amount for a retirement visa has not been 30K for quite some time. It has been 66,666 baht per month for quite some time.

yes we all know the whats needed to stay in Thailand long term legally,I'm talking about background checks for people applying for visas in Thai embassy's ,maybe finito for people staying long term in Thailand doing border runs and maybe the money in the bank option for pensioners and visas based on marriage will go up.And the writing is on the wall That Thailand wants to get rid of el cheapo foreigners. Edited August 28, 2013 by Kudel

[Spoonman]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

You are getting rorted on your Chang, Iam buying 3 for Bt.138 at my local 7/11.

My "budget" is double yours just paying the monthly outgoings and my existence is far from "high roller", infact very much akin to an existence back home.........being able to jump out for an hour or 2 and get my sack emptied though has its advantages..........love them massages.

Ehh ! 4500/150 =30, as in a month, he is talking 3 beer per day every day over the span of a month.

doubt anyone consuming that amount of beer daily back home ever made it here.

My bad, I read it as 3 big changs for 150.................as for consumption.... 3 is my drive home from work.

[Chittychangchang]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

Yeah but you were young 60 years ago and inflation's taken its toll since then, hasn't it?

10 years ago.

Probally be about 22K with inflation/ exchange rate now.

CCC

[Chittychangchang]

When i was young free and single in Thailand i lived on

100 baht a day beach front bungalow 3000 pm

150 baht a day western food 4500 pm

100 baht a day Thai food 3000 pm

150 baht 3 Large Chang 4500 pm

Clothes/ toiletries/misc 1000 pm

Total 16,000 baht a month

You guys with big budgets of over 25k must be living the high roller life.

CCC

You are getting rorted on your Chang, Iam buying 3 for Bt.138 at my local 7/11.

My "budget" is double yours just paying the monthly outgoings and my existence is far from "high roller", infact very much akin to an existence back home.........being able to jump out for an hour or 2 and get my sack emptied though has its advantages..........love them massages.

Ehh ! 4500/150 =30, as in a month, he is talking 3 beer per day every day over the span of a month.

doubt anyone consuming that amount of beer daily back home ever made it here.

My bad, I read it as 3 big changs for 150.................as for consumption.... 3 is my drive home from work.

Agreed 3 large Chang is nothing, just takes the edge of the day.

Could drink 10 at the weekend but had to be careful not to Blow the budget away.

CCC

[Chittychangchang]

here we go again,,

young and old,,lol

some can get this topic into any post,,lol

When your young in Thailand it is actually cheaper than when you are older.

Less commitments vs More commitments vs much more commitments

young free and single vs girlfriend,bike,apartment vs wife, car house,kids etc

CCC

[NeverSure]

here we go again,,

young and old,,lol

some can get this topic into any post,,lol

When your young in Thailand it is actually cheaper than when you are older.

Less commitments vs More commitments vs much more commitments

young free and single vs girlfriend,bike,apartment vs wife, car house,kids etc

CCC

I actually don't fully understand what you wrote, beyond the first line.

However, replying only to your first line, I disagree. I see younger people doing a lot more partying. A retired person who doesn't and never did care for bars, bar girls or alcohol doesn't have to get married or support a girlfriend. A young person can get married, have kids and have a lot of expenses that the retired single guy won't have.

The retired guy may be less likely to have any debt. I'm forever reading on here about guys making car payments in their wives' names.

I have no commitments, no debt, and an occasional date isn't all that expensive. I don't think I "have" to spend more money for the same lifestyle as a younger man. Fortunately, I don't have to worry about money.

[TheSpade]

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Edited August 28, 2013 by TheSpade