Pongsapat meets with Chula Ratchamontri on lifting kratom from banned narcotic list

[Lite Beer]

Pongsapat meets with Chula Ratchamontri on lifting kratom from banned narcotic list

BANGKOK, 9 September 2013 (NNT) – Office of Narcotics Control Board (ONCB) secretary-general Pol Gen Pongsapat Pongcharoen has met with Chula Ratchamontri Aziz Pitakkumpol to discuss the possibility of lifting kratom from the banned narcotic status.

Pol Gen Pongsapat has met with the Chula Ratchamontri and 60 other religious and community leaders in order to ask for their opinions on the lifting of Krathom leaves from the list of ‘banned narcotic substance.

According to Chula Ratchamontri Aziz, he wants to see the result of the test on kratom first before making any decisions, adding that if the morphine-like kratom does have a negative impact on the nervous system or causes nausea, removing it from the list will be contrary to the Islamic principles.

As for concerns over drug abuse in the Muslim community, Mr. Aziz said most cases were caused by the negligence of parents. He urged all Muslim families to pay more attention to their children, adding that caring family is the key to eliminating drug problems.

-- NNT 2013-09-09

[h90]

If it the use is against Islamic principles they could simply not use it. No one is forced to use it.

Else we also need to ban alcohol and pork because it is against Islamic principles.

Ban condoms because it is against catholic principles

Ban beef because it is against Hindu principles.

In fact the kratom leaves aren't a problem at all. But it is also a fact that this concentrated coke mix is a huge problem in the south.

I am against that some politician decide what is good for the people....but it is undeniable that the "kratom-coke" is a huge problem in NST.

[jaidam]

If they all agree to take it off the narcotic list, how long will it actually take? It has to go through parliament or its just the govt signing a piece of paper and its all done?

Police in my neighborhood will not be happy, kratom law has been very lucrative for them.

[jaidam]

If it the use is against Islamic principles they could simply not use it. No one is forced to use it.

Else we also need to ban alcohol and pork because it is against Islamic principles.

Ban condoms because it is against catholic principles

Ban beef because it is against Hindu principles.

In fact the kratom leaves aren't a problem at all. But it is also a fact that this concentrated coke mix is a huge problem in the south.

I am against that some politician decide what is good for the people....but it is undeniable that the "kratom-coke" is a huge problem in NST.

Going back a decade or so the police never enforced any kratom law. Workers and older people used it, kids not. Since they started fining on the spot 500B per leaf, alot of people started brewing it into a tea or mixing it with coke so they could carry it around without getting busted. So they now have a much more popular drug to deal with, lets face it it is much easier for kids to drink it with coke than chewing bitter leaves all day. Another fail of drug laws, having the exact opposite effect than they wanted.

[Kilgore Trout]

If it the use is against Islamic principles they could simply not use it. No one is forced to use it.

Else we also need to ban alcohol and pork because it is against Islamic principles.

Ban condoms because it is against catholic principles

Ban beef because it is against Hindu principles.

 

In fact the kratom leaves aren't a problem at all. But it is also a fact that this concentrated coke mix is a huge problem in the south.

I am against that some politician decide what is good for the people....but it is undeniable that the "kratom-coke" is a huge problem in NST.

 

 Going back a decade or so the police never enforced any kratom law. Workers and older people used it, kids not. Since they started fining on the spot 500B per leaf, alot of people started brewing it into a tea or mixing it with coke so they could carry it around without getting busted. So they now have a much more popular drug to deal with, lets face it it is much easier for kids to drink it with coke than chewing bitter leaves all day. Another fail of drug laws, having the exact opposite effect than they wanted.

Dont be so sure about what they want; now they have more users and more opportunity to get $$$

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[Dr Robert]

taking any drug that targets neurological pathways and alters consciousness is fraught with danger. ban the drug and keep it banned. it will do no one any good to legalise it-remove this source of misery and dysfunction ...and enforce the law.

[MobileContent]

If it the use is against Islamic principles they could simply not use it. No one is forced to use it.

Else we also need to ban alcohol and pork because it is against Islamic principles.

Ban condoms because it is against catholic principles

Ban beef because it is against Hindu principles.

In fact the kratom leaves aren't a problem at all. But it is also a fact that this concentrated coke mix is a huge problem in the south.

I am against that some politician decide what is good for the people....but it is undeniable that the "kratom-coke" is a huge problem in NST.

Going back a decade or so the police never enforced any kratom law. Workers and older people used it, kids not. Since they started fining on the spot 500B per leaf, alot of people started brewing it into a tea or mixing it with coke so they could carry it around without getting busted. So they now have a much more popular drug to deal with, lets face it it is much easier for kids to drink it with coke than chewing bitter leaves all day. Another fail of drug laws, having the exact opposite effect than they wanted.

Going back a few decades smoking grass was also not a problem but today it is. Kratom seems to be some kind of narcotics. Tell the grannies in Isaan to stop chewing kratong for a weel or two and they will get nuts.

[surangw]

on the list, but still easy to get?

[Globeman]

If it the use is against Islamic principles they could simply not use it. No one is forced to use it.

Else we also need to ban alcohol and pork because it is against Islamic principles.

Ban condoms because it is against catholic principles

Ban beef because it is against Hindu principles.

In fact the kratom leaves aren't a problem at all. But it is also a fact that this concentrated coke mix is a huge problem in the south.

I am against that some politician decide what is good for the people....but it is undeniable that the "kratom-coke" is a huge problem in NST.

Going back a decade or so the police never enforced any kratom law. Workers and older people used it, kids not. Since they started fining on the spot 500B per leaf, alot of people started brewing it into a tea or mixing it with coke so they could carry it around without getting busted. So they now have a much more popular drug to deal with, lets face it it is much easier for kids to drink it with coke than chewing bitter leaves all day. Another fail of drug laws, having the exact opposite effect than they wanted.

Going back a few decades smoking grass was also not a problem but today it is. Kratom seems to be some kind of narcotics. Tell the grannies in Isaan to stop chewing kratong for a weel or two and they will get nuts.

Smoking grass is a problem? In the West it is a bit because hydroponics have made it wickedly strong - real Sunday afternoon dumdum weed. But how is it a problem here? Yaba, yes, ganja, no. I have seen loads of daily smokers get deprived for a few weeks, say after a big drug bust (back in the days when it was imported), and the worst thing that happened was they got restless and a bit more ambitious.

And according to all the studies done on krathom, it is non-addictive, so the old ladies might be a bit bored due to the break in routine, but they'll have no physical reaction. Take beer away from what is likely a huge percentage of TV beer addicts and they'd definitely go nuts - many of the posts would be even more grumpy, condescending and intolerant than usual.

[nisakiman]

taking any drug that targets neurological pathways and alters consciousness is fraught with danger. ban the drug and keep it banned. it will do no one any good to legalise it-remove this source of misery and dysfunction ...and enforce the law.

What utter bunkum. You realise that alcohol comes under the aegis of "any drug that targets neurological pathways and alters consciousness" don't you? Fraught with danger? Ye gods, you must live a very sheltered life and get all your information from the tabloids.

And as for "removing this source of misery and dysfunction ...and enforce the law.", yeah, sure. That's been a resounding success over the past several decades, hasn't it?

I think you need to get out a bit more...

[Thai at Heart]

Is this sharia?

[ubuibi]

The clinical definition of insanity is do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. All governments prohibition policies are Insane as per definition.......

[hyperdimension]

taking any drug that targets neurological pathways and alters consciousness is fraught with danger. ban the drug and keep it banned. it will do no one any good to legalise it-remove this source of misery and dysfunction ...and enforce the law.

Would you support global criminalization of coffee?