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How fast or slow on average did it take for you guys pool being build.

This means from design to actually use of the pool.

Reason me asking is that I need to find out if this can be done within a month or less time?

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It all depends on the size and shape of the pool and if you have already made your mind up on the finish you require. Some tiles for example can take up to three weeks to deliver when ordered from the factory. If it's a straightforward rectangular pool, there is very little design time involved. If all materials are available ex stock, from breaking ground to completion and filled, reckon on about 3 - 4 weeks for a typical 4 x 10 in-ground, concrete pool, fully tiled.

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In my opinion you should give priority to Q.C.

Learn what there is to learn about pool construction and check every step (or have a third party specialist help you).

My personal experience, the moment I turned my back things went sideways and I'm still dealing with the consequences.

May the force be with you ;-)

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It also depends on whether you are intending to build the pool yourself or to get a serious, experienced pool constructor to do it (even there, prices will differ wildly). If you are doing it yourself, include time finding about materials specs, shopping around for materials and equipment, and getting the best deals for quality pumps, filters, underwater lights, fixtures and fittings etc. A genuine pool constructor will have all the essentials in stock except of course concrete, rebar, and tiles. Always ask what tile adhesive and grout they use and be prepared to get some blank stares or otherwise non-committal answers. Always ask what brands of pumps and filters they intend using and shy away from anything that is less well known, or that they won't commit to manufacturers' guarantees on.

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In my opinion you should give priority to Q.C.

Learn what there is to learn about pool construction and check every step (or have a third party specialist help you).

My personal experience, the moment I turned my back things went sideways and I'm still dealing with the consequences.

May the force be with you ;-)

Pool will be build by a builder.

Can you give me some more info on your troubles so I can learn from them maybe?

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It all depends on the size and shape of the pool and if you have already made your mind up on the finish you require. Some tiles for example can take up to three weeks to deliver when ordered from the factory. If it's a straightforward rectangular pool, there is very little design time involved. If all materials are available ex stock, from breaking ground to completion and filled, reckon on about 3 - 4 weeks for a typical 4 x 10 in-ground, concrete pool, fully tiled.

It will be a small regular rectangular pool of 4x6 so nothing really special.

What would be the points I have to look out for?

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It all depends on the size and shape of the pool and if you have already made your mind up on the finish you require. Some tiles for example can take up to three weeks to deliver when ordered from the factory. If it's a straightforward rectangular pool, there is very little design time involved. If all materials are available ex stock, from breaking ground to completion and filled, reckon on about 3 - 4 weeks for a typical 4 x 10 in-ground, concrete pool, fully tiled.

It will be a small regular rectangular pool of 4x6 so nothing really special.

What would be the points I have to look out for?

Even for that small size, I would say it cannot be done. Pilings alone would take a week to arrange and complete. Then, excavation, setting forms, lean concrete, etc. Smaller pools are not necessarily easier, due to limited working space afforded to the team.

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It all depends very much on location. Surprisingly, piles are not needed for every small pool - it depends on the substrate . Get plenty of quotes from different experts - unnecessary piles, like over-engineered pump/filtration systems, just add to the contractor's profit.

Ask about their specs for concrete and rebar, tile adhesive and grout, and if they just give a blank stare when you mention 'waterstop', 'maindrain', and 'hydrostatic valve'...

Ask what they intend installing for pump HP and filtration flow rate - then ask us here again.

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If your builder doesn't do a proper engineering drawing of the pool design and a detailed costing showing part costs I would get one who does. It was that aspect of my builder's preparations that convinced me that this local Isaan regional commercial and domestic builder (who had done a good job building our house), working in conjunction with a pool design and install 'specialist' from Bangkok could be relied upon.

It proved to be well-founded - except that the so-called specialist pool installer wired up the chlorinator wrongly (even I could detect that from the instruction manual!) so that it could not be used in full automatic mode. They then had the cheek to tell my wife that 'falang don't understand pools in Thailand' and effectively refused to come back from Bangkok to look at it. My builder was a bit at sea as the non-specialist caught in the middle. Astral Pools technical staff in Australia agreed with my suspicions and told me the installer was wrong and Astral Pools Thailand guided me to a work around that did not require my re-wiring (lack-of) skills to achieve a level of auto operation that meets my needs so that the pool is now working under salt chlorination two years after it should have been. Astral Pools Thailand agreed to talk to the installer about his lack of understanding, from which I deduced that the installer was in some way authorised by them to install Astral gear. Stories like this seem to be par for the course in this country!

And to answer your direct question:

15m x 4.5m x 0.8m-1.7m pool with infinity edge, return channels and reserve tank. 2 months under construction, 3 months from initial enquiry to first swim. Two weeks of that was waiting for the equipment installer's schedule to coincide.

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This falls into what I call the "Bino's Two Out Of Three Rule".

Three parameters: price, quality and speed. You can only have two of them.

IE:

If you want it fast, and you want it cheap, it won't be good.

If you want it fast, and you want it good, it won't be cheap.

If you want it cheap, and you want it good, it won't be fast.

This rule applies globally, but here in Thailand if you really do end up getting two out of three, then it is as Meatloaf sang it : "Two out of three ain't bad."

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My pool is 8 x 4 m, 1.5 m at the deep end, 1 m at the shallow end and with a small linked kiddie pool. It took exactly one month to build.

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As I said - perfectly doable. A standard 10 x 4 rectangular concrete in-ground pool, fully tiled (standard light blue ceramic tiles) , including brick-built pump house, ready to swim, can be constructed by a fully trained professional team of 4 - 5 within 30 days from breaking ground with the backhoe.

Note the emphasis on fully trained professional team. This should not be expensive even when using the correct materials specifications and quality pump and filtration equipment and PVC/ABS fixtures & fittings, and LED underwater lighting. Anything much over Baht 700,000 for the complete job (may also be slightly lower depending on local prices for concrete etc., ) may be a rip off, while anything significantly lower (than say Baht 540,000) may indicate a lack of professionalism and/or corner cutting on materials (e.g. tile adhesive and grout) or quality equipment. Expect prices to be higher in traditional areas of expat residence.

Some constructors may legitimately increase their price if the project is a long way from their base. That is the compromise between getting a quality job done, and one done by a local bunch of 'experts', although I have seen a post on this forum somewhere where even a Bangkok firm made a complete mess of a high profile project in Chiang Mai.

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It all depends very much on location. Surprisingly, piles are not needed for every small pool - it depends on the substrate . Get plenty of quotes from different experts - unnecessary piles, like over-engineered pump/filtration systems, just add to the contractor's profit.

Ask about their specs for concrete and rebar, tile adhesive and grout, and if they just give a blank stare when you mention 'waterstop', 'maindrain', and 'hydrostatic valve'...

Ask what they intend installing for pump HP and filtration flow rate - then ask us here again.

Pillings are cheap as chips and well worth the insurance. I doubt anyone will build you a cement pool in less then 60 days. Let me say they will contract 60days and possibly be done in 6weeks.

In my pool the bobcat got swallowed in the pool so that was a couple days there. Things happen so unless you go fiberglass dont expect 30days.

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It all depends very much on location. Surprisingly, piles are not needed for every small pool - it depends on the substrate . Get plenty of quotes from different experts - unnecessary piles, like over-engineered pump/filtration systems, just add to the contractor's profit.

Ask about their specs for concrete and rebar, tile adhesive and grout, and if they just give a blank stare when you mention 'waterstop', 'maindrain', and 'hydrostatic valve'...

Ask what they intend installing for pump HP and filtration flow rate - then ask us here again.

Pillings are cheap as chips and well worth the insurance. I doubt anyone will build you a cement pool in less then 60 days. Let me say they will contract 60days and possibly be done in 6weeks.

In my pool the bobcat got swallowed in the pool so that was a couple days there. Things happen so unless you go fiberglass dont expect 30days.

Did you know that 6 weeks is much less than 60 days whistling.gif

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