Plodprasop: Floods 'under control'

[grimblegrumble]

Noah!! Where are you Noah?!!

[webfact]

Overall flood situation not worrying: Plodprasob
By English News



BANGKOK, Sept 24 - Thailand's Water and Flood Management Commission chairman reaffirmed that the overall flood situation is not worrying, while the army chief said 30,000 soldiers are on standby to help flood victims.

Water and Flood Management Commission head Plodprasop Suraswadi, concurrently deputy prime minister, said flooding in the eastern provinces will ease soon if there is no more rain during the next three days.

He explained that floodwater in the eastern region came from rainfall on nearby mountains, flowing to downstream areas of Cambodia and Thailand.

In Thailand, there are only three small rivers in the eastern parts, he said, and combined with construction of houses along the riversides, water therefore flowed into low-lying inner cities.

For the lower Northeast, Mr Plodprasop said the flood situation has improved. Water has been released through Mekong River, while in the central region, concerned authorities are now speeding up draining water out of the Chao Phraya Basin. The move will affect residents living outside the flood prevention dykes.

Overall, the situation is unworrying, according to the deputy premier.

Meanwhile, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha said the army has closely monitored the flood situation in 21 provinces and 2,000 army personnel have already been dispatched to flood-hit areas.

Gen Prayuth said he believes this year's flooding will not be as severe as that of 2011.

However, he said 30,000 soldiers in 150 'disaster relief companies' are prepared to immediately respond to emergencies to help the victims. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2013-09-24

[laurentbkk]

Overall, the situation is unworrying, according to the deputy premier

Its always unworrying when it doesn't concern you , your house or your family.

[kirk0233]

But the situation is not like 2011, when the dams broke and we were not prepared for the runoff

Did dams burst in 2011? I don't recall this.

Not at all. But they were not managed well.

"Someone" ordered the dams to hold back the big rains, till the rice pledging crop could be harvested. And thus repay those who made the PTP win possible. After that they had to let too much water out to fast, to prevent the dams from bursting.

Thus the 2011 floods on a grand scale.

That is what I recall. Someone is rewriting history or just possibly ignorance.

[webfact]

Phuket News:

Sukhumbhand plays down Bangkok threat


Flooding in Prachin Buri. Photo: Thanarak Khoonton

BANGKOK: -- State authorities are gearing up to protect industrial estates in Ayutthaya and Pathum Thani provinces as flood water begins inundating many low-lying areas in the Central Plains.

Mountain run-off from Khao Yai forest complex has triggered a flood as deep as one metre in Kabin Buri municipality in Prachin Buri. Other provinces are also struggling against flooding as a result of the tropical depression that hit Thailand last week. (Photo by Thanarak Khoonton)

Days of widespread and heavy rain in the upper part of the central, lower northeastern and eastern regions have also resulted in flash floods in many provinces, affecting farmland and businesses in urban areas.

Flood water from the North has reached Ayutthaya province through the Chao Phraya and Pasak rivers and flowed into the Hantra and Kamang canals.

Sluice gates intended to protect urban areas in the heart of the province, as well as its Uthai district and the Rojana Industrial Park, have not yet been completed.

The canals are overflowing in tambon Hantra and tambon Phai Ling sub-districts.

Water from both canals is also flowing into the Khao Mao canal which leads to the Rojana Industrial Park and the Muang Mai community.

The Royal Irrigation Department closed the sluice gate at the mouth of the Khao Mao canal.

If the water gets through the gate, it would reach the commercial areas of Ayutthaya very quickly.

Industry Minister Prasert Boonchaisuk said he was worried about the situation at Saha Rattana Nakorn Industrial Estate as it was the only one of six industrial estates in Ayutthaya and Pathum Thani where floodwalls have not been completed.

The flood protection system at Saha Rattana Nakorn is only 30% complete.

Floodwalls are in place at the other five facilities, namely the Bang Pa-in Industrial Estate, the Ban Wa (Hi-Tech) Industrial Estate and the Rojana Industrial Park in Ayutthaya, and the Navanakorn Industrial Estate and the Bang Kadi Industrial Estate in Pathum Thani.

"The IEAT [industrial Estate Authority of Thailand] is monitoring the situation at the three estates in high-risk locations, namely Saha Rattana Nakorn, Bang Pa-in and Hi-Tech," Mr Prasert said.

"I have ordered the IEAT to install big sandbags that can be laid over a distance of 20 kilometres at the Saha Rattana Nakorn Industrial Estate."

Despite flooding elsewhere in Prachin Buri, the newly built Hi-Tech Kabin Industrial Estate in the eastern province remained intact because its compound is elevated.

Suthep Noipairoj, deputy director-general of the Royal Irrigation Department, said water from Nakhon Sawan province has now reached Bangkok and the level of the Chao Phraya River in the capital and nearby provinces is rising quickly.

Koh Kret island in Nonthaburi province, north of Bangkok, is now partially flooded as a result. Koh Kret is located on the river.

Mr Suthep said areas protected with embankments along the river, including those in Bangkok, would not be flooded.

Bangkok governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra said 40% of the reservoirs of dams were filled, compared with 90% in 2011 when the country was hit by massive flooding.

The tide in the Chao Phraya River is only about one metre above the mean sea level, so he is confident Bangkok will be safe from flooding.

The Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation said flooding has hit a total of 21 provinces, comprising seven in the Northeast, four in the North, seven in the Central Plains, two in the East and one in the South.

Severe flooding was reported Monday in Si Sa Ket, Surin, Prachin Buri, Sa Kaeo and Buri Ram provinces.

Northeast-bound trains to Ubon Ratchathani can go no further than Sikhoraphum station in Surin, as the tracks between Surin and Si Sa Ket are 1.5m under water over a distance of about 3km.

The Department of Highways said highways are flooded in 13 provinces: Chachoengsao, Pathum Thani, Lop Buri, Saraburi, Suphan Buri, Chaiyaphum, Nakhon Ratchasima, Buri Ram, Prachin Buri, Sa Kaeo, Ubon Ratchathani, Phetchabun and Surin.

Eighty percent of highways in the northeastern province of Surin are inundated.

The Meteorological Department predicts more rain in the lower North, the upper part of the Central Plains and the Northeast from tomorrow until Saturday.

Meanwhile, the Royal Irrigation Department said it will increase the discharge rate of the Chao Phraya dam in Chai Nat province to relieve the water run-off from the North. The rate will rise from 2,000 to 2,300 cubic metres per second.


-- Phuket News 2013-09-24

[Bpuumike]

Very reassuring.

[Redhawk]

So business as usual, lies over lies, the rich got protection and help through their political slaves paid by tax payer's moneyand the poor suffer as the should! Nothing to worry because nothing has changed!

[siampolee]

"The situation, so far, is not as worrying as in 2011. It's only that the media is reporting about it so intensely that the public has started panicking," Deputy PM Plodprasop Suraswadi said yesterday, adding that this year, the level of floodwater was only half of that in 2011.

Well only half a metre of water flowing through ones factory, shop, house etc is indeed but a a trifle compared to a full metre of water flowing through ones factory, shop house etc.

Seems to me that its not only the boats screws that are coming loose., seems as if many a political figure is also loosing the thread and the screws are loosening with them too.

Yet again listening to and reading political figures pontificating form their ivory towers confirms without a doubt their contempt for the people of Thailand.

[Just1Voice]

I would love to see the people in all the areas north of BKK do a "community project" building flood walls and sluice gates to force all the flood and runoff waters directly to BKK. The message has always been - "Protect BKK at all cost, and to hell with the provinces". Yea, well, all the provinces should join together to say - "Protect the provinces, and to hell with BKK!"

[teetersb]

Does he have his fleet of boats churning(pushing) water out to sea, yet?

[DocN]

I would love to see the people in all the areas north of BKK do a "community project" building flood walls and sluice gates to force all the flood and runoff waters directly to BKK. The message has always been - "Protect BKK at all cost, and to hell with the provinces". Yea, well, all the provinces should join together to say - "Protect the provinces, and to hell with BKK!"

Yeah right!

That is what we should do!

Because it is clearly Somchais fault in Bangkok, that some politicians are too dumb to find their own @$$ for sh1tt1ng in the dark!

Let's flood Bangkok...they all deserve it!

[Sheryl]

In 2011 it govt's measures to "protect" inner Bkk tmade things vastly worse IMO.

Best to hope f that this year they refrain from stupid measures and just let the waters run through to the sea. Parts of Bkk will then flood, but not for weeks/months like in 2011.

[spirit47]

We all know, what kind of man Plodprasop is, why he not in jail about the tiger export case?

Ok, when he say, it is under control, it's time to buy cans and store food for a few months.

[h90]

In 2011 it govt's measures to "protest" inner Bkk tmade things vastly worse IMO.

Best to hope f that this year they refrain from stupid measures and just let the waters run through to the sea. Parts of Bkk will then flood, but not for weeks/months like in 2011.

Yes, exactly.

2011 the absolute genius solution was to block the water at every stage, basically building a wall of water. And than let it flow "around" Bangkok.

Which basically means you block it until it finds a other way.

At the same time limit the water flow from the dams until it isn't possible anymore and than turn it on at the worst possible moment.

I am still thinking if it is possible to be so stupid or if was a carefully planed thing to find a reason for some Mega projects.

I was in the middle of it.

[dcutman]

Meanwhile, the Royal Irrigation Department said it will increase the discharge rate of the Chao Phraya dam in Chai Nat province to relieve the water run-off from the North. The rate will rise from 2,000 to 2,300 cubic meters per second.

According to the other paper, at these additional discharge rates water levels will rise 125cm, (4 feet).

[h90]

Meanwhile, the Royal Irrigation Department said it will increase the discharge rate of the Chao Phraya dam in Chai Nat province to relieve the water run-off from the North. The rate will rise from 2,000 to 2,300 cubic meters per second.

According to the other paper, at these additional discharge rates water levels will rise 125cm, (4 feet).

and just a few days ago I read somewhere that this time the dams are only filled 40 % and have plenty space to take more water......seems someone is telling wrong things....like 2011

[nottocus]

As soon as I read the title of the thread I immediately thought "oh no".

[robblok]

Meanwhile, the Royal Irrigation Department said it will increase the discharge rate of the Chao Phraya dam in Chai Nat province to relieve the water run-off from the North. The rate will rise from 2,000 to 2,300 cubic meters per second.

According to the other paper, at these additional discharge rates water levels will rise 125cm, (4 feet).

and just a few days ago I read somewhere that this time the dams are only filled 40 % and have plenty space to take more water......seems someone is telling wrong things....like 2011

Are these the same dams ? if so why let the water go now unless they lied again or they expect a lot of water. To be honest I don't know how much water it can hold and how long it takes to fill up under normal circumstances.

[spacemand]

Overall flood situation not worrying: Plodprasob

By English News

BANGKOK, Sept 24 - Thailand's Water and Flood Management Commission chairman reaffirmed that the overall flood situation is not worrying, while the army chief said 30,000 soldiers are on standby to help flood victims.

Water and Flood Management Commission head Plodprasop Suraswadi, concurrently deputy prime minister, said flooding in the eastern provinces will ease soon if there is no more rain during the next three days.

He explained that floodwater in the eastern region came from rainfall on nearby mountains, flowing to downstream areas of Cambodia and Thailand.

In Thailand, there are only three small rivers in the eastern parts, he said, and combined with construction of houses along the riversides, water therefore flowed into low-lying inner cities.

For the lower Northeast, Mr Plodprasop said the flood situation has improved. Water has been released through Mekong River, while in the central region, concerned authorities are now speeding up draining water out of the Chao Phraya Basin. The move will affect residents living outside the flood prevention dykes.

Overall, the situation is unworrying, according to the deputy premier.

Meanwhile, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha said the army has closely monitored the flood situation in 21 provinces and 2,000 army personnel have already been dispatched to flood-hit areas.

Gen Prayuth said he believes this year's flooding will not be as severe as that of 2011.

However, he said 30,000 soldiers in 150 'disaster relief companies' are prepared to immediately respond to emergencies to help the victims. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2013-09-24

http://www.tmd.go.th/en/list_warning.php

The rather strong High pressure area from China cover the upper Thailand causing the strong monsoon trough lies across Thailand:

During 24-25 September 2013, the North and the upper Northeast.

During 26-27 September 2013, the lower North and Northeast.

During 28-29 September 2013, the central and the lower Northeast.

More rain and isolated heavy rain with gust some place are likely over the upper Thailand. People should beware heavy rain.

The low pressure cell in the South China Sea will upgrade to the tropical depression move to middle of Vietnam during 29-30 September 2013, cause torrential rain in the lower Northeast.

The advisory will be effect on 24 September 2013

at 4.00 p.m.

(Signed) Worapat Tiewthanom

(Mr Worapat Tiewthanom)

Director-General, Thai Meteorological Department

Nope nothing to worry about here, I had to leave my home in Sisaket yesterday and in less than 24 hours there is a flooding in the street of about 1 meter meaning there is at least 25cm in my house but I can't get to my house withou a boat, ohhh and yeah water still rising, nothing to worry about going to be at least a week or more before I am back to clean up, luckily I got most stuff out and stored.

Edited September 24, 2013 by spacemand

[bander]

Floods 'under control'

He means..... "It has stopped raining....... for now"

When thai officials say: under control, it means: out of control, pictures and videos on the news don't lie

[Thai at Heart]

Meanwhile, the Royal Irrigation Department said it will increase the discharge rate of the Chao Phraya dam in Chai Nat province to relieve the water run-off from the North. The rate will rise from 2,000 to 2,300 cubic meters per second.

According to the other paper, at these additional discharge rates water levels will rise 125cm, (4 feet).

and just a few days ago I read somewhere that this time the dams are only filled 40 % and have plenty space to take more water......seems someone is telling wrong things....like 2011

I feel a porkie pie is going to catch them out again....

[whybother]

So by saying that there is much less water than 2011, what they are actually saying is if there was as much water as 2011, everyone would still be completely f(*%&d.

They've had two years, and don't seem to have fixed a thing?

[ratcatcher]

The only thing this man gives a dam about is Mae Wong (and she isn't a Hong Kong movie star).

[Thai at Heart]

...aside from this, all other problems have also been solved while we were sleeping, as well. Oil spill (as seen by satellite) has magically disappeared. How many goofballs actually believe what they read in this part of the world? lol. My canadian friend likes the russian news...he says they are pretty accurate, because the government won't put up with bad reporting (really?). Ok, I don't like Fox or CNN either... but I wonder who the fk is buying newspapers here, to catch up?

The emporer could be stark b*******k naked on national TV and every front page of the newspaper, and most journalists here wouldn't have the balls to point it out, even the female one's.

But if the lady PM was completely starkers on TV...

I think that might not go uncommented upon.

Whoever did the report would probably get sued for defamation.....

[Thai at Heart]

So by saying that there is much less water than 2011, what they are actually saying is if there was as much water as 2011, everyone would still be completely f(*%&d.

They've had two years, and don't seem to have fixed a thing?

Like I said, getting flooded for 3 days, or 3 weeks doesn't make a whole lot of difference to the amount of damage to a house. The place is a mess, stuff is ruined, electric appliances are shot, same.

So, great, it's not quite as bad as 2011, it's only waste deep for less time, doesn't really help.

[monkeycountry]

I have no symphathy whatsoever for most of those people now being hit by floods. They are mostly PTP supporters, hence directly or indirectly voted for Mr Plodprasop, a guy with no relevant expertise whatsoever, a guy who believes floods can be avoided with "water pushing machines", and who does not need or take any advise from foreign engineers or flood experts.

So to you guys now sitting in your flooded houses in the central, east and north east provinces. Most of you got exactly who you voted for, and now your house is flooded - again.

Next time I suggest you ask Yingluck to hire some experts with engineering degrees for technical jobs like flood prevention. In the meantime, have fun with the water :-)

[DocN]

I have no symphathy whatsoever for most of those people now being hit by floods. They are mostly PTP supporters, hence directly or indirectly voted for Mr Plodprasop, a guy with no relevant expertise whatsoever, a guy who believes floods can be avoided with "water pushing machines", and who does not need or take any advise from foreign engineers or flood experts.

So to you guys now sitting in your flooded houses in the central, east and north east provinces. Most of you got exactly who you voted for, and now your house is flooded - again.

Next time I suggest you ask Yingluck to hire some experts with engineering degrees for technical jobs like flood prevention. In the meantime, have fun with the water :-)

Complete and utter bull- dung!

They get flooded every year, because no matter what party rules, no one gives a f$#@ about the subject!

Many politicians, from all parties, since forever had the chance to make a difference and they didn't!

Because their villas and condos and estates are not the ones that drown in 1,5 meter of liquid feces ...and if they were, they would just move somewhere else!

Have some empathy <deleted>, even you are in love with Abisith!

He would not make anything different!

[RubbaJohnny]

Government House has ordered hundreds of inflatable water wings that can be filled with hot air.

However DON"T PANIC there will be no floods until they arrive.

[monkeycountry]

I have no symphathy whatsoever for most of those people now being hit by floods. They are mostly PTP supporters, hence directly or indirectly voted for Mr Plodprasop, a guy with no relevant expertise whatsoever, a guy who believes floods can be avoided with "water pushing machines", and who does not need or take any advise from foreign engineers or flood experts.

So to you guys now sitting in your flooded houses in the central, east and north east provinces. Most of you got exactly who you voted for, and now your house is flooded - again.

Next time I suggest you ask Yingluck to hire some experts with engineering degrees for technical jobs like flood prevention. In the meantime, have fun with the water :-)

Complete and utter bull- dung!

They get flooded every year, because no matter what party rules, no one gives a f$#@ about the subject!

Many politicians, from all parties, since forever had the chance to make a difference and they didn't!

Because their villas and condos and estates are not the ones that drown in 1,5 meter of liquid feces ...and if they were, they would just move somewhere else!

Have some empathy <deleted>, even you are in love with Abisith!

He would not make anything different!

Now that they have Yingluck in power, they seem to be able to get at least some of what they want, the rice scam as an example, so why do they not block a street and insist Mr. Plodprasop is replaced with an expert in flood prevention? Not to mention the rest of the government, most of whom have a red t-shirt or a last name as the only qualification for their job.

It seems to me they do not care what the government does, as long as they get some free cash. Well, they got the free cash, and now the government gives them lots of free water too :-)

[Neilly]

Plodprasop says media coverage is causing undue panic; industrial estate operators remain confident; flooding hits 20 provinces

Posted Today, 17:11

Industrial estate in Ayutthaya threatened by floods

Glad to see he's got his finger on the pulse as always