Plodprasop: Overall flooding situation is not worrisome

[webfact]

DPM: Overall flooding situation is not worrisome

BANGKOK, 28 September 2013 (NNT) – Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasop Suraswadi said the overall flooding situation in Thailand is not worrisome as 2 major dams are still capable of holding up to 10 billion cubic meters of water.

During the “PM Yingluck Meets the People” program on NBT, Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasop Suraswadi mentioned about the flooding situation in Thailand, saying the amount of water measured this year is close to last year as there is nothing to worry about.

He said the 2 major dams, Bhumibol and Sirikit, still have the capability to contain water up to 10 billion cubic meters, adding the chances of water in the north coming to the central region are very slim.

However, the deputy prime minister expressed his concerns about Prachinburi Province as the water level in the rivers of Prachinburi is highest in 26 years.

Lastly, Mr. Plodprasop has assured the Bangkokians that the capital will not experience flood similar to the one in 2011. However, precautionary measures are taken and the officials are fully prepared in case of emergency.


-- NNT 2013-09-28

[gl555]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

[laurentbkk]

its always hard to know if they tell the truth or not ......

[robblok]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

[dcutman]

Overall flooding situation is not worrisome

last I heard there is 0ver 2 million people affected and (10's) thousands of business and homes flooded. A lot of heavy rain on the way is being forecast.

I guess the flood of 2011 is now the benchmark we compare everything to.

[robblok]

Overall flooding situation is not worrisome

last I heard there is 0ver 2 million people affected and (10's) thousands of business and homes flooded. A lot of heavy rain on the way is being forecast.

I guess the flood of 2011 is now the benchmark we compare everything to.

For many it is.. but your right this flooding is of course bad.

[anon467848]

Plod will be made to eat his words big time....

[dcutman]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

Plod and the OP is referencing only two major dams. That is hardly reason not to be concerned ("not worrisome") of the others, witch are at or near capacity and increasing rates of discharge as there is another major storm on the way to add to the already heavy rainfall.

These statemenst made by this lunatic, that is charge of this situation should be criminal. He is painting a picture that could lead people to believe their lives are not in danger and end up being on the list of those that have already perished or are missing.

[robblok]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

Plod and the OP is referencing only two major dams. That is hardly reason not to be concerned ("not worrisome") of the others, witch are at or near capacity and increasing rates of discharge as there is another major storm on the way to add to the already heavy rainfall.

These statemenst made by this lunatic, that is charge of this situation should be criminal. He is painting a picture that could lead people to believe their lives are not in danger and end up being on the list of those that have already perished or are missing.

Those two dams hold like 80% of the total watercapacit of whole of thailand the 4 dams your mentioning hold only a small portion. You should really do as I say and google bangkok Pundit and flooding. The guy is great explaining it all in detail

Edited September 28, 2013 by robblok

[Credo]

its always hard to know if they tell the truth or not ......

It's also hard to know if they know the truth.

[NongKhaiKid]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

Plod and the OP is referencing only two major dams. That is hardly reason not to be concerned ("not worrisome") of the others, witch are at or near capacity and increasing rates of discharge as there is another major storm on the way to add to the already heavy rainfall.

These statemenst made by this lunatic, that is charge of this situation should be criminal. He is painting a picture that could lead people to believe their lives are not in danger and end up being on the list of those that have already perished or are missing.

You are so right and it's not as simple as he is making out but now loss of face recludes him from saying else.

If the situation gets worse his mis-representations will rise in tandem with the water. I don't know what it is with this idiot but the Shin clan certainly look after him.

[webfact]

Eastern Bangkok susceptible to flood, following release of huge volumes of water from dams in the North, Bangkok Gov. Sukhumbhand warned /The Nation

Govt rushing to dig drainage canals around Bangkok to tackle potential floods /The Nation

[siampolee]

Eastern Bangkok susceptible to flood, following release of huge volumes of water from dams in the North, Bangkok Gov. Sukhumbhand warned /The Nation

Govt rushing to dig drainage canals around Bangkok to tackle potential floods /The Nation

No problems say's Yingluck and Plodprasop, from the parallel world that they live in.

Ask the people who are in the flooded and the at risk for flooding areas what they think , I somehow doubt that they will feelng so smug and complacent about the situation.

Again. What happened to the funds and the plans to combat severe flooding Madam Prime Minister?

[ResX]

If he uses the 2011 flood as the bechmark , then he is about right. I have mentioned the fact that the Bhumibol and Sikit dam are the most critical dams as far as for water management and flood control for the Chao Pharaya is concern. As long as these two dams have not been beaten then possibility of major floods the size of 2011 will become very low, but not zero.

But then, to me using the 2011 as the bechmark is never close to the right thing to do. Such benchmarking indicates water management authorities in Thailand are still in the dark about how to go about.

The correct benchmark is by defining what size of floods that the current infrastructures can handle. Only by knowing this the flood mangement and control will become 100% objective driven. Without knowing this important benchmark then no amount of TBH to be invested can make them feel safe.

I have a feeling, looking from 1000km away++ that Thailand does not need big investments for new water management and flood cntrol structures to make the Chao Pharaya reasonably safe. Maybe far less than THB 350b.

[siampolee]

Note that yesterday a number of dams operatives on instructions from a higher level were told to released water to lower the dams water level so as to be able to manage the next inflow of water levels thus those downstream of the dams are about to be inundated with water.

What was it Yingluck said?

Oh yes'' no need to worry about flooding!!!''

Where has the money gone that was meant for flood relief scams schemes, where are those scams schemes sited and are they actually working ?

Edited September 28, 2013 by siampolee

[dcutman]

As I recall, during the last time, we were told not to worry either.

PTP 4ever!

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

Plod and the OP is referencing only two major dams. That is hardly reason not to be concerned ("not worrisome") of the others, witch are at or near capacity and increasing rates of discharge as there is another major storm on the way to add to the already heavy rainfall.

These statemenst made by this lunatic, that is charge of this situation should be criminal. He is painting a picture that could lead people to believe their lives are not in danger and end up being on the list of those that have already perished or are missing.

Those two dams hold like 80% of the total watercapacit of whole of thailand the 4 dams your mentioning hold only a small portion. You should really do as I say and google bangkok Pundit and flooding. The guy is great explaining it all in detail

I have looked at it, and I agree they have done the research and reported facts. But in reality it means FA to those areas around other dams and rivers that are getting flooded. It does not take billions of cubes of water to destroy property and take lives.

Unless of course you are talking about only central Bangkok being flood free, along with the rest of the ashholes, like Plod.

[robblok]

Only he is right with those dams if you want some real infor google bangkokpundit and educate yourself. I am anti PTP but that site is run by a foreigner that has all the data on the dams and flow rates collected.

Plod and the OP is referencing only two major dams. That is hardly reason not to be concerned ("not worrisome") of the others, witch are at or near capacity and increasing rates of discharge as there is another major storm on the way to add to the already heavy rainfall.

These statemenst made by this lunatic, that is charge of this situation should be criminal. He is painting a picture that could lead people to believe their lives are not in danger and end up being on the list of those that have already perished or are missing.

Those two dams hold like 80% of the total watercapacit of whole of thailand the 4 dams your mentioning hold only a small portion. You should really do as I say and google bangkok Pundit and flooding. The guy is great explaining it all in detail

I have looked at it, and I agree they have done the research and reported facts. But in reality it means FA to those areas around other dams and rivers that are getting flooded. It does not take billions of cubes of water to destroy property and take lives.

Unless of course you are talking about only central Bangkok being flood free, along with the rest of the ashholes, like Plod.

I was flooded in 2011.. for 2 months so I care.. This just shows its not on the scale of 2011 and will help many people sleep better. I like accurate data and i feel for the people who are flooded.

[clockman]

I can only think that Plod, knows where the bodies are buried. So he has some hold over this Shin clan?

[chainarong]

Plodprasop, tell that to the people that have been flooded out , once again, because they believed your promises from the last three years of floods, you need to be an idiot to believe in this administrations efforts to control , divert flood waters, something akin to believing in the tooth fairy. The only worrisome factor in this saga is the PTP once again is unable to deliver on promises made .

[winstonc]

its lapping at my wall in ubon.3ft more and its rubber pants time, this morning outside it turning into tent city bigtime...i want to see plods house flooded ...but it wont happen..unfortunatly......be safe everyone drive slow....

[klubex99]

those two dams are still in a constant state of filling from runoff from the north and east. This is with the rain not falling directly on the dams, they rise fast with direct rainfall plus runoff. two weeks of rain can make a huge dent in that 10 billion cubic meters. It could be down to 6 billion even before the next bad rainstorm.

For example, rained here last night for 12 hours straight, that means quite a large weather system, meaning it is covering a large area of land mass... its all on its way down...

You need to realize that the water that travels down to BKK is still on the move and is still being topped up daily. Even if the rain stops falling, the runoff still works its way south for up to 3 or 4 weeks after.

[h90]

Plodprasop, tell that to the people that have been flooded out , once again, because they believed your promises from the last three years of floods, you need to be an idiot to believe in this administrations efforts to control , divert flood waters, something akin to believing in the tooth fairy. The only worrisome factor in this saga is the PTP once again is unable to deliver on promises made .

and the next election they will win again in exactly these areas that were flooded....what does that tell us?.....

[ResX]

those two dams are still in a constant state of filling from runoff from the north and east. This is with the rain not falling directly on the dams, they rise fast with direct rainfall plus runoff. two weeks of rain can make a huge dent in that 10 billion cubic meters. It could be down to 6 billion even before the next bad rainstorm.

For example, rained here last night for 12 hours straight, that means quite a large weather system, meaning it is covering a large area of land mass... its all on its way down...

You need to realize that the water that travels down to BKK is still on the move and is still being topped up daily. Even if the rain stops falling, the runoff still works its way south for up to 3 or 4 weeks after.

Exactly. That is why somebody has to educate the water management authorities that there is such word called "coordinated releases". The dams are only made up 50% of the requirements for flood management and control. "Coordinated dam releases" will make another 48%.

[Patje]

Plod will be made to eat his words big time....

Or drink the overflow !!! Would be nice !!!!

[Estrada]

The existing dams do not hold 80% of the rainfall for the whole of Thailand as one TV poster has stated. In 2011, much of the rain fell in the Yom River basin, most of the existing dams did not receive excessive storm flows. A major dam was recommend to be built to regulate the flow of Yom River under the King's Master Plan, put forward by J.I.C.A., 30 years ago. Because of aggressive action by locals and so called environmentalists, there is still no dam to control major flows coming from the Yom river catchment area. Until this dam is completed they will not control the excessive flows during prolonged monsoon conditions. When Plodprasop says that the overall flood situation is not worrisome, he means the following:

1. His constituency is unaffected. 2. His home is not affected. 3. His brother has opened a boat factory

Edited September 28, 2013 by Estrada

[spirit47]

its always hard to know if they tell the truth or not ......

It's their job to lie...

[robblok]

The existing dams do not hold 80% of the rainfall for the whole of Thailand as one TV poster has stated. In 2011, much of the rain fell in the Yom River basin, most of the existing dams did not receive excessive storm flows. A major dam was recommend to be built to regulate the flow of Yom River under the King's Master Plan, put forward by J.I.C.A., 30 years ago. Because of aggressive action by locals and so called environmentalists, there is still no dam to control major flows coming from the Yom river catchment area. Until this dam is completed they will not control the excessive flows during prolonged monsoon conditions. When Plodprasop says that the overall flood situation is not worrisome, he means the following:

1. His constituency is unaffected. 2. His home is not affected. 3. His brother has opened a boat factory

Hi,

Just go to Bangkok pundit that is where i got my information from there they state how much water these dams hold. I am not trying to make Plop look good here. I am quite anti him and the PTP but as someone who was affected by the last flood bad its hard to get any accurate news.

I liked to contribute so those that could get affected could get some good news. i know that now I am a bit more relaxed.. its not good being on edge based on incomplete news.

[Lobo4819]

Some areas of the country are already experiencing flooding, and there is a tropical storm that will be making its way across Thailand in the next couple days. Only Plod would make such an inane statement.

[klauskunkel]

its always hard to know if they tell the truth or not ......

It's their job to lie...

...and they're doing an admirable job! Let's give them another flood budget.

[johnlandy]

its always hard to know if they tell the truth or not ......

99% of the time they are not ('not telling the truth') and then take into account that this man is a cretin.