exit ticket needed for border bounces?

[BigSkookum]

re border bounces, in my case from Samui to/from Malaysia, do they require an exit ticket out of Thailand to be already booked? I want one more kick at the can to find employment to enable a work permit, two weeks would help. An "air bounce" to Manila and back (Phuket-MNL is $50 return right now on Cebu Pacific) would give me a month. Easy enough to book a third Phuket-MNL outbound I guess. Just looking for clarity on what's needed for a border bounce......I may just use the two weeks to go chill somewhere like Tonsai or Phayyam before the grueling flight back to eve-of-winter Canada, and could be it's Tonsai where I find the situation I haven't found here in Samui, despite months of trying.....not looking for riches, just a living. Oct 5, next Saturday, is the end of my tourist visa.....and while I have enough money to get an ed visa, I don't have enough reserves to survive very long......a work permit situation, that's different......so want a bit more breathing room/time to hopefully find one. Been away from Canada a long time, not really ready for culture shock, or climate shock....

So do I need an exit ticket, or can I just do the border bounce without one?

[Sceptict11]

Not quite sure what you are asking. If you are looking to secure a 30 day visa exempt entry a flight out of Thailand and return will secure that.

It is a matter of airline policy as to whether an onward ticket is required in the absence of a visa best check with the airline.

Very difficult for a Westerner to secure a legal job in Thailand unless a special , provable skill is possessed

[BigSkookum]

ah, so it's the airline that decides that, not the immigration officials on arrival? So the land border crossings there would be no problem with needing an onward ticket out to wherever? As far as that Manila flight goes, it's so cheap I'd just get another outward ticket to go with it.....and not much more to do so, other than a hotel night in Manila, than going to Malaysia or Ranong.

I'm highly educated and literate though have no completed degree, I'm just in process of getting an online TEFL qualification and can also teach other subjects, including music. I haven't been able to get it until now for various reasons, just want a bit more time to try to put it to work here so I can stay in Thailand, though of course it's useful elsewhere, even in Canada if I DO go back. But at this time of year, I'd rather not.

[Colabamumbai]

You chances for employment are greater in a larger city. A diploma can get you a job teaching, you mention no degree. October and March are school hiring times, but jobs are there anytime of the year. I have been here 4 years and rarely without work. In fact thinking of quitting work. Leg work man, into this school, into that one....

[ubonjoe]

Instead of wasting money on flights and etc why don't you make a trip for a tourist visa.

A trip to Khota Baru or Penang would give a single entry.

[Tomtomtom69]

Not quite sure what you are asking. If you are looking to secure a 30 day visa exempt entry a flight out of Thailand and return will secure that.

It is a matter of airline policy as to whether an onward ticket is required in the absence of a visa best check with the airline.

Very difficult for a Westerner to secure a legal job in Thailand unless a special , provable skill is possessed

There are lots of jobs for westerners in Thailand, but not in a lot of different categories unless you have special skills as you mentioned. However, at the same time, other foreigners are even less likely to find work with the exception of low skilled laborers from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia. Therefore, you should have said that it's difficult as a foreigner to find work in Thailand.

[Tomtomtom69]

ah, so it's the airline that decides that, not the immigration officials on arrival? So the land border crossings there would be no problem with needing an onward ticket out to wherever? As far as that Manila flight goes, it's so cheap I'd just get another outward ticket to go with it.....and not much more to do so, other than a hotel night in Manila, than going to Malaysia or Ranong.

I'm highly educated and literate though have no completed degree, I'm just in process of getting an online TEFL qualification and can also teach other subjects, including music. I haven't been able to get it until now for various reasons, just want a bit more time to try to put it to work here so I can stay in Thailand, though of course it's useful elsewhere, even in Canada if I DO go back. But at this time of year, I'd rather not.

Well, generally speaking the airlines in SE Asia don't check the onward tickets of westerners and other rich countries i.e. those passengers holding western, Singaporean, Hong Kong, Japanese and Korean passports, but they might be quite strict if you are from a poor country that needs a visa in advance such as Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis etc. However, sometimes airlines do check tickets of all passengers, but in general it's enough to provide a verbal guarantee that you will be leaving the country prior to the expiry of your visa. A credit card would also be beneficial. The reason the airlines may request evidence of outbound travel is due to the immigration requirements of the destination country; in the case of Thailand, the airlines would have to bear the cost of repatriation in case entry is refused. In reality, I have never heard of anyone being refused entry to Thailand due to lack of outbound tickets, so I wouldn't worry about this, but the law does mention this as a requirement IF you are arriving without a visa. With a visa, any visa you don't need an outbound ticket.

[duanebigsby]

ah, so it's the airline that decides that, not the immigration officials on arrival? So the land border crossings there would be no problem with needing an onward ticket out to wherever? As far as that Manila flight goes, it's so cheap I'd just get another outward ticket to go with it.....and not much more to do so, other than a hotel night in Manila, than going to Malaysia or Ranong.

I'm highly educated and literate though have no completed degree, I'm just in process of getting an online TEFL qualification and can also teach other subjects, including music. I haven't been able to get it until now for various reasons, just want a bit more time to try to put it to work here so I can stay in Thailand, though of course it's useful elsewhere, even in Canada if I DO go back. But at this time of year, I'd rather not.

They really want a degree now in order to get the proper Teaching License. You can get a work permit and then have 2 years grace to fulfill any missing requirements. In my case, Tefl and the 3 day Thai Culture and Ethics course. They no longer accept on-line TEFL or TESL courses, only classroom programs. You may find a way for rules to be bent but you need a degree, TEFL. and the 3 day Thai course to qualify for a teaching license. You can get your first work permit without, but to extend you will have to get the license.

[Suradit69]

ah, so it's the airline that decides that, not the immigration officials on arrival? So the land border crossings there would be no problem with needing an onward ticket out to wherever? As far as that Manila flight goes, it's so cheap I'd just get another outward ticket to go with it.....and not much more to do so, other than a hotel night in Manila, than going to Malaysia or Ranong.

I'm highly educated and literate though have no completed degree, I'm just in process of getting an online TEFL qualification and can also teach other subjects, including music. I haven't been able to get it until now for various reasons, just want a bit more time to try to put it to work here so I can stay in Thailand, though of course it's useful elsewhere, even in Canada if I DO go back. But at this time of year, I'd rather not.

Well, generally speaking the airlines in SE Asia don't check the onward tickets of westerners and other rich countries i.e. those passengers holding western, Singaporean, Hong Kong, Japanese and Korean passports, but they might be quite strict if you are from a poor country that needs a visa in advance such as Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis etc. However, sometimes airlines do check tickets of all passengers, but in general it's enough to provide a verbal guarantee that you will be leaving the country prior to the expiry of your visa. A credit card would also be beneficial. The reason the airlines may request evidence of outbound travel is due to the immigration requirements of the destination country; in the case of Thailand, the airlines would have to bear the cost of repatriation in case entry is refused. In reality, I have never heard of anyone being refused entry to Thailand due to lack of outbound tickets, so I wouldn't worry about this, but the law does mention this as a requirement IF you are arriving without a visa. With a visa, any visa you don't need an outbound ticket.

"Well, generally speaking the airlines in SE Asia don't check the onward tickets of westerners ..."

Not sure of the current logic, but at one time the reason the airlines wanted to see a ticket for an onward flight if the passenger did not have a visa was because immigrations might refuse to admit the passenger for that reason and the airline would be obliged to fly him/her back to the airport of departure whether or not he/she could pay for the flight. Immigrations would consider the airline at fault for not checking whether or not the passenger had a visa or had already made arrangements to leave the country. If it weren't for the potential cost to the airline, I'm sure they couldn't care less.