smokie36 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan You're glued to the TV I know mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan I know you didn't get to watch the game last night Carms but to be fair, we weren't dull. Montenegro were an hard team to break down but we did it in positive fashion. However, saying all that, I am under no illusion that if we get through, the top teams won't be too worried about us. In fact, I fear we will get taught a few lessons by them. That ain't Hodgsons fault though. Don't get me wrong, I'm no admirer of him but it's down to the lack of choices he has at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan I know you didn't get to watch the game last night Carms but to be fair, we weren't dull. Montenegro were an hard team to break down but we did it in positive fashion. However, saying all that, I am under no illusion that if we get through, the top teams won't be too worried about us. In fact, I fear we will get taught a few lessons by them. That ain't Hodgsons fault though. Don't get me wrong, I'm no admirer of him but it's down to the lack of choices he has at his disposal. Like when ya had the golden generation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rixalex Posted October 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game planLast night certainly wasn't dull, but that being said, i do get what you are saying in general. But, let me ask you this carms, when was the last time you saw an England manager really shake things up and go out on a limb? Capello certainly never did, McClaren... well, let's not even mention him, Erikkson, nope, don't recall much excitement there either. How far back to you have to go, to a time when England really got you on the edge of your seat, to a time when the manager did something really daring? In part it is obviously because of what the England managers have had to work with. I think it is also to do with the enormity of the job. National managers don't get many games to prove themselves, with games generally well spread out except during competitions, and the pressure is immense. Get beat by a cricket scoreline and it's not like you can go out the next week and put it right, like a club manager can. Results are the be all and end all. And for all the jokes and criticism directed at Roy, his results have been fine. Certainly no worse then what we have had for the last two decades or longer. Some people are judging him not on the job he is doing, but on the fact that they don't like him. Making jokes about the way the team has been set out, before the team has been set out. We scrap out a one nil win under Capello and it's all sage nodding at his tactical nous in Europe and his impressive Italian style defensive mindset. Scrap out a one nil win under Roy and it's all "how boring and unambitious was that!". Anyway, at the end of the day, we have to remember that an awful lot of people, get an enormous amount of satisfaction from England failing at any time, and more so now that we have Roy at the helm. Desperate for him to fail, and desperate for England to lose. I'm sure we'll satisfy them at some point and before too long, but let's try not to get sucked into all their negativity so easily. We just convincingly won a competitive game by four goals to one. Think we can afford just a little bit of positivity and happiness... until Tuesday at least... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan You're glued to the TV I know mate. Caiprinhas on Copacabana mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan I know you didn't get to watch the game last night Carms but to be fair, we weren't dull. Montenegro were an hard team to break down but we did it in positive fashion. However, saying all that, I am under no illusion that if we get through, the top teams won't be too worried about us. In fact, I fear we will get taught a few lessons by them. That ain't Hodgsons fault though. Don't get me wrong, I'm no admirer of him but it's down to the lack of choices he has at his disposal. Like when ya had the golden generation? What's this then. A Scot laughing at England's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan You're glued to the TV I know mate. Caiprinhas on Copacabana mate? Yep done that mate from a rooftop pool bar!! And yes, it was a cool as it sounds! Its going to be the place to be for the world cup believe me. Hopefully this world cup will help erase the memory of that last one in South Africa and those woeful vuvuzelas...i thought the whole thing was crap. Hopefully Tim Vickery will be doing daily blogs for the BBC for well informed updates throughout the tournament. Edited October 13, 2013 by carmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Without meaning to sound too harsh to Hodgson, although i am, i feel his tactics, team set up, vision is incredibly dull and predictable and if he does get through to Rio and does make an impact it will be because he goes out on a limb and uses young talent to fire things up because he doesn't have it naturally in his locker to improvise. These kids are the only thing that can confuse and taunt the opposition from his, as i see it, boring game plan I know you didn't get to watch the game last night Carms but to be fair, we weren't dull. Montenegro were an hard team to break down but we did it in positive fashion. However, saying all that, I am under no illusion that if we get through, the top teams won't be too worried about us. In fact, I fear we will get taught a few lessons by them. That ain't Hodgsons fault though. Don't get me wrong, I'm no admirer of him but it's down to the lack of choices he has at his disposal. Like when ya had the golden generation? What's this then. A Scot laughing at England's team. Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Like when ya had the golden generation? What's this then. A Scot laughing at England's team. Always. Well, with Scotland not needing their passports next year, Strachan telling the players to practice more and England another step closer to going to Rio, I bet there ain't many jocks laughing with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Watch it mrboj...I might start discussing the unfairness of the seeding system. Glass houses and all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Watch it mrboj...I might start discussing the unfairness of the seeding system. Glass houses and all that! You won't get any arguments from me on seedings and the unfairness of it but you wouldn't have qualified no matter who you had, as everyone wants you in their group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Watch it mrboj...I might start discussing the unfairness of the seeding system. Glass houses and all that! You won't get any arguments from me on seedings and the unfairness of it but you wouldn't have qualified no matter who you had, as everyone wants you in their group Plenty time yet for you to fark it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Watch it mrboj...I might start discussing the unfairness of the seeding system. Glass houses and all that! You won't get any arguments from me on seedings and the unfairness of it but you wouldn't have qualified no matter who you had, as everyone wants you in their group Plenty time yet for you to fark it up. Unless you are the winner, every country in the World Cup farks it up at some stage but you got to be in it to win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Watch it mrboj...I might start discussing the unfairness of the seeding system. Glass houses and all that! You won't get any arguments from me on seedings and the unfairness of it but you wouldn't have qualified no matter who you had, as everyone wants you in their group Plenty time yet for you to fark it up. Unless you are the winner, every country in the World Cup farks it up at some stage but you got to be in it to win it And it has to be said, the Brazillians would be gutted if England were not in the finals. Moore, Charleton for example are still reveered in Brazil as is Barnes, which might surprise some of which i'm not included i would add. Our presence there will be greatly wanted and i hope the players can feed off that if we manage to qualify I reckon its going to be one of the truly great world cup finals. Edited October 14, 2013 by carmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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