Retiree, thai visas if under 50?

[Sparletta]

I am 40 years old, but do not meet the age requirement for such thai visa. During the last few

years I have travelled the world, looking for a nice place in the sun.

Anyone here know about excemptions from age requirements?

My disability-pension are gov. backed, unrevokable til I am 65, after that age-pension same gov. but

slightly higher. None are restricted geographically.

Currently I receive 2000 usd aft tax, monthly. It is fully compensated yearly for development of average income

in my northern european country. Also got some funds, aprx. 150 000 usd. Are investing in stocks, funds

online.

So far I have been granted fm2 in Mexico, as rentista. (not pensionado, that got lover requirements). I was

told by the embassy, stay in our country 4 years, min 6 months 1 day / year, we will offer you full citizenship.

I was told by american, canadian expats in MX that it is pretty hard to get, especially if young.

Soon after arrival in Mexico, I was given travell documents, id-card et.c. It even

came with an offer for false identity, they almost begged me to not chose my given name. The nationality

was not my country, instead they insisted on Switzerland. I had to hand

it over when leaving MX. It gave me problems, people thought I was richer than I am.

Honduras topped the offer, full residency immidiately, good prospect for citizenship within 2-3 years.

South africa, no problems but no citizenship.

Phillipines, greedy incompetent officers. They only offered tourist-visas, extentions for huge sums. Or a

yearly lottery, 50 of your nationality may win a 1 year visa, each year.. No police-check, no nothing. Why choose such a country if not given benifits for not being a backpacker? What a lottery, I might win 1 year.. oh thank you..

Vietnam, no problems, bussiness.

Kambodja, no problems, but unreliable greedy officers. Not trustworthy enough to invest time and years

of my life.

What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? Maybe same as in central america, put me in investor och bussiness category, maybe there are long stay visas for health reassons?

Any advice, info would be much appriciated.

[Naam]

your "facts" about Philippines and Malaysia are rubbish! based on that one should judge your other fairy tales.

[Maestro]

 ...What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? ...

 

No, it does not.

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[Sparletta]

your "facts" about Philippines and Malaysia are rubbish! based on that one should judge your other fairy tales.

Naam, thank you

Great news, I am wrong about he Phillipines, Malaysia?

During a few months, earlier this year, I visited a handfull immigration offices in

the Vizcayas, had contact with the PH embassy. 6 Tourist-visa extensions per year, an endless

array of fees every 2 months, the lottery (or qoutas?), or a lot of money (aprx. 3000 usd) to legal advisors / friends to

to the officers for unknown visa-category 1-2 years. Thats it, either sucks.

Besides age-requirements, I do not know much about Malyasian residency. Maybe you do?

Sri lanka, age reguirement 45, My dream-home Sri lanka programme. Slow (waiting for speed-money?), polite, uninterested officers.

I try to describe differences in visa-procedures, how to translate

long stay visas in the americas, south africa, to asian procedures in general, particularly

thai since it is a thaivisa forum.

Why not focus on the topic, instead of the person.

Kindly /

[Sparletta]

...What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? ...

No, it does not.

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OK, thank you.

[wayned]

If you are under 50, not married to a Thai, do not work in Thailand, have 10 million baht to invest in Thailand, or are enrolled in a school that entitles you to and ED visa, you are a tourist and are entitled to all of the things that a tourist visa will allow you to do!

Edited November 2, 2013 by wayned

[ubonjoe]

If it is worth 2 million baht to you for a long stay here check this out. http://www.thailandelite.com.122.155.171.22.no-domain.name/newcreate/index.php

Edited November 2, 2013 by ubonjoe

[pmarlin]

If it is worth 2 million baht to you for a long stay here check this out. http://www.thailandelite.com.122.155.171.22.no-domain.name/newcreate/index.php

But beware, this program has had its problemsx

[vincentbanner]

Maleisie have a nice program to stay there calls second home program

http://www.mm2h.gov.my/

[thaiexpat21]

Maleisie have a nice program to stay there calls second home program

http://www.mmDo2h.gov.my/

Is that Malaysia ?

That country has a "second home " program !

[vincentbanner]

in europe we call it maleisie but you understan it so thats good :-)

[thaiexpat21]

in europe we call it maleisie but you understan it so thats good :-)

In some non English speaking countries that may be true -

Not everyone understands "europe" is that even a Language?

[SUSHI SHOGUN]

A Japanese visa run company told me that

a person who has over 800,000THB in Thailand bank

can get double entry tourist visa until age 50 at Thai emmbasy Vienchan Laos

after age 50, must be change to long stay visa .

It is not sure,please check yourself

[ubonjoe]

A Japanese visa run company told me that

a person who has over 800,000THB in Thailand bank

can get double entry tourist visa until age 50 at Thai emmbasy Vienchan Laos

after age 50, must be change to long stay visa .

It is not sure,please check yourself

There is no such rule.

There are lots of 50 or over's still getting tourist visas there.

To get what is normally considered a long stay visa (non-oa) would require getting it in their home country.

[bifftastic]

in europe we call it maleisie but you understan it so thats good :-)

In some non English speaking countries that may be true -

Not everyone understands "europe" is that even a Language?

Maybe in Holland they speak 'Europe'

[55Jay]

Aside from your question, which I trust will be answered pretty well here, I would be interested to read a summary of your experience in Mexico.

What city did you stay in? Was there something bad about it to make you want to leave and look for other options in Asia?

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested.

[thaidallover]

At your age, I genuinely think your best option is education visa "ED" . You can arrange here via reputable school , and just need to go to neighbouring country for visa at a Thai consul.

I am pretty much in the same position and up until 18 months ago i was issued multi- entry Non“O” every year without problems. ( even without being married), sadly this has been stopped. So our best bet now is Ed visa which can have yuo here for 15 months per stay..

[lopburi3]

Several troll posts removed.

[Naam]

in europe we call it maleisie but you understan it so thats good :-)

only in France and franco-phone Belgium the country is called "Maleisie". in other European countries it's called Malaysia.

[DerkMR]

...What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? ...

No, it does not.

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Depends on where you ask.

I'm under 50 and with a medical (time restricted) retirement.

I went to a German Consulate with my paperwork showing that I get above the limits and asked if I could get a non I O retirement based which immediately was issued.

So as usual in Thailand there is no black and white but thousand shades of grey.

Bye,

Derk

[thaiexpat21]

...What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? ...

No, it does not.

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Depends on where you ask.

I'm under 50 and with a medical (time restricted) retirement.

I went to a German Consulate with my paperwork showing that I get above the limits and asked if I could get a non I O retirement based which immediately was issued.

So as usual in Thailand there is no black and white but thousand shades of grey.

Bye,

Derk

Are you intending to extend your stay based on "retirement. If so you may get a nasty shock !

[Nana Cowboy]

no there are no exceptions for you period.I should know because I lived in thailand from age 41 to 52 (present)

with similar income and wayyyy more asset cash. I took it upon myself to do tourist visa runs for 9 years until

I turned 50 and also got married at the same time. So you can do the ED visa thing now as so many do but there's no

special exception for you. I struggled to do 8 years of tourist visas ranging from consulate to consulate, triples, the a few doubles then down to single entries. its harder now. my 1st 3 years were triple entry but that option off the table. at the end red stamps came into the picture but I missed out, barely. have fun. you can do it but there aint no ez way out

[Jingthing]

Yes, you can't get either an O-A visa OR an annual extension based on retirement if not at least age 50. Period.

[Suradit69]

...What about Thailand (I am also considering Malaysia, same 50 years age limit), does medical retirement make it possible to be excempted from age-requirements? ...

No, it does not.

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Depends on where you ask.

I'm under 50 and with a medical (time restricted) retirement.

I went to a German Consulate with my paperwork showing that I get above the limits and asked if I could get a non I O retirement based which immediately was issued.

So as usual in Thailand there is no black and white but thousand shades of grey.

Bye,

Derk

" asked if I could get a non I O retirement based which immediately was issued."

If you mean a non imm O-A visa, presumably it's a multiple entry visa that you're planning to stretch out to nearly two years ... but then you'd need to try again for the same at the same consulate or else apply to immigrations for an extension of stay based on retirement. If you're under 50, the latter will almost certainly be refused and questions might be raised as to how you got an O-A to begin with.

If you got a O visa, you'll still face the issue of either getting another visa issued outside of Thailand or trying for an extension of stay at Immigrations and again, if you're under 50, that's not likely to happen. Saying that an O visa is retirement based is a bit misleading. It might have been issued with the expectation you'd apply for an extension of stay based on retirement, but otherwise the visa has nothing to do with retirement.

"So as usual in Thailand there is no black and white but thousand shades of grey."

About 90% of those shades of gray are solely in the minds of those who assume they understand something that they do not.

Edited November 3, 2013 by Suradit69

[Colabamumbai]

Aside from your question, which I trust will be answered pretty well here, I would be interested to read a summary of your experience in Mexico.

What city did you stay in? Was there something bad about it to make you want to leave and look for other options in Asia?

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested.

I am not the poster but lived in Mexico for 6 years making silver jewelry in Taxco and then a year in Puerto Excondido. It is harder to be honest and run a business, pay taxes etc., than just go for six months a year and leave for a day as Canadians we are allowed 6 months. The country is expensive, the violence and killings and reduction in business caused me to leave, that and a threat on my life by an other Canadian if I did not do what he asked.

Mexico is lawless, with M16's standing on the corners the police turn a blind eye to robbery and murder, as most are complacent. The chances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time became too high as they removed over one hundred bodies from the unused mine shaft in Taxco.

[vincentbanner]

In Itali we call it malesia lived my half live in belgium what was the question ?

[jeannot]

in europe we call it maleisie but you understan it so thats good :-)

only in France and franco-phone Belgium the country is called "Maleisie". in other European countries it's called Malaysia.

Sorry but in French is called "Malaisie".

[rhodie]

There is no 1 solution and a lot depends on your flexibility and how restrictive your disability is. Rules change a lot around here in Asia. I would think your most stable option would be Cambodia. Costs $280 per year for a multi entry business visa. With that you will be legal. Also gives you the option to explore other countries in the area until you can work out a better solution.

Search the web for some information on Cambodia. There is probably quite a bit right here on TV.

Good Luck!

[55Jay]

I am not the poster but lived in Mexico for 6 years making silver jewelry in Taxco and then a year in Puerto Excondido. It is harder to be honest and run a business, pay taxes etc., than just go for six months a year and leave for a day as Canadians we are allowed 6 months. The country is expensive, the violence and killings and reduction in business caused me to leave, that and a threat on my life by an other Canadian if I did not do what he asked.

Mexico is lawless, with M16's standing on the corners the police turn a blind eye to robbery and murder, as most are complacent. The chances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time became too high as they removed over one hundred bodies from the unused mine shaft in Taxco.

Thanks for the response.

[Sparletta]

Aside from your question, which I trust will be answered pretty well here, I would be interested to read a summary of your experience in Mexico.

What city did you stay in? Was there something bad about it to make you want to leave and look for other options in Asia?

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested.

Hi,

About Mexico.

I like free ice in hotels, big buckets. Since I can not get residence on my own

in the US, do not want to rely on relations. Estados Unidos Mexico, felt

like an option, less bad sentiment against english-speaking gringos, than Costa Del Sol. More

personal freedom, less economic socialism, no culture-marxism.

I felt no threat from street-crime, violence, in fact I felt safer

than in many other countries. Same goes for South Africa, locals

always go out of their way to make visitors secure.

Yes, the machine-gun armed security-forces ratio / per foreigner in Acapulco was alarmingly high. I met

an Sicilian that asked me for advice, is it dangerous here? A lot of Italians i Mexico. When

Sicilians (think the Godfather) are worried, then it is really worrysome.

But, what really bothered me in Mexico was organised but non violent crime. Information

theft, probably probing my account-balance, security software on my $20 harddrive, my idcard

dissapeared and laptop died att same moment, no money or valuables missing + harddrive stolen _and_ replaced with

a new same model wrong serialnr. The theft / manipulation was discoved much later, next visit to my home-country.

I decided not to return, the probing felt like a prelude to kidnapping, extortion (if they

found info to extort me on, like insurance fraud, cheating a wife et.c.) or simply a

gun pointed at me while being forced to withdraw money from ATMs.

No, I do not move that far away to live in fear, become paranoid. When this happens,

I pack and go, no reasson wasting time on anything that only got potential go become worse

as I increase my interaction with the society. Besides this I liked Mexico, especially

the goverment, my residency, legal rights et.c.

I visited places like San Cristobal los Casas, San Patricio, Guadaljarara, Oaxaca city, Puerto Escondido.

Final destination would have been Ensenada or Baja sur, maybe Chapala. But I aborted. I particularly liked the oceans cold-streams, that

regularly occur in places like P. Escondido. Tropical climate, 19 degress celsius crystal clear

ocean. Very very refreshing combo!

Also, I would have liked to visit Belize. They got greyer shades

of residency than Asia, if you are christian. (like visit church often, ask priest to

testify you are of good character, a doctor telling you are not crazy or abusing drugs.

1 year stay, get OK regarding your character, then

excepted for 45 age limit, the qualified retired person programme, taxfree import of boat, car et.c.

from the US). I guess they do not want more McAffes in Belize, have to check peoples

sanity.

Also the volatile Belizean dollar, instable currency, need to deposit my pension on local accounts with hefty

currency convertion-fees, discouraged me. Expensive european single-way airfares from Guatemala

and Honduras, Cancun short seasson for charter airfares.

So far I have dissmissed Thailand. The visa, residency-problems, to many white (and koreans, Like Combodia?)

men (like me) chasing residency in one country, it feels over-saturated. It make

perfectly sence to me why the Thai gov. try to alter, choke the inflow of

men looking for residency.

Thailand got absolutely perfect connections to Europe. Low prices, single tickets, no need 3-4 changes

and 28 hours. Also, the many of the women seems to take relations serious, raised old fashing.

Kindly /