Buying Pirarted Dvds/cds Is Stealing

[bkkmadness]

I do still worry about bad karma though.

Download 'My Name is Earl'., it'll explain all you need to know about fixing bad karma.

[bkkmadness]

the way i see it ...some of the movies costing 100 million dollars get their production costs back with the first few days of cinema releases anyways. and lets face it, we all go to the cinema every now and then. at least i do ..because i enjoy it. now if after the production costs, through the cinemas they only make a profit of 10-20 million dollars ...can't really go crying there. i mean, the studio just made a huge amount of money. lets go out and make some cheap dvds and charge customers 200-300% the production costs ...meaning they get 200-300 dollars back for every dollar they spend. seems like a good return.

if the movie business doesn't go that well anymore, maybe we need to cut tom hanks (which is a brilliant actor, IMO, by the way), tom cruise, etc. etc salaries from 10 million dollars per movie to 2 million dollars per movie. and maybe not spend 100 million dollars on a movie but maybe only 20-50 million dollars per movie.

I'm sorry rainman but thats all blah blah blah. Its like saying that when Porshe developed the 911 they made their money back so its ok if you go out and nick one, and if Porshe start losing money, cut the wages of the engineers and staff who helped build and sell the car. Who are you to decide whats a suitable profit margin for a business?

End of the day, you download or buy goods like this then you are stealing money from people who have brought you a good service. You steal money from your favourite music band when you d/load their tunes, don't forget that.

Morally its wrong, so better just lose some morals and stop justifying it if you are going to do it, I certainly do.

[dog412]

as i say, fake doctors, airplane parts,medical equipment, where do you think it will stop? if the intention is only to buy the cheapest, then, you will end up with the cheapest. thai, indian, and chinese movies are less expensive than "western movies", they are subtitled, why not buy them?

[bkkmadness]

as i say, fake doctors, airplane parts,medical equipment, where do you think it will stop?

It will not stop, messy world isn't it. Perhaps they could go and arrest these people?

thai, indian, and chinese movies are less expensive than "western movies", they are subtitled, why not buy them?

why bother, I can get any movie for the same price, that'll do me nicely thanks very much.

[TRIPxCORE]

I buy plenty pirated movies. I don't feel like a thief at all. Why is it stealing? Just because some politician says it is? Well, I hardly ever agree with any politicians and I am not going to start now. Just like most politicians outlaw gambling but I see no problem with it. Its all a big game. Movie companies will keep trying to find a way to block people from copying their items and the pirates will keep finding ways around it. If the pirates are clever enough to find a way to circumvent the copy-blocks, then we can buy them because Hollywood lost.

[Phil B]

BTW MI3 should be out next week on dvd!!

I didn't want to comment on this topic. But that just made me chuckle.

Cheers Brit.

But how many people do you think will get up in the middle of it. I have a few of the ones where you can see people get up and hear them laughing. But hey paying a 100 bht is better than paying 1000 bht You always have to ask if it is a good copy or not, once the actual movie comes out on DVD

[udon]

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[sriracha john]

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Was that the real, authenticated poster making those flaming posts, or a pirated copy of the poster??

[Diablo Bob]

If it's illegal, why do the stores sell me a computer with a CD RECORDER and software to RECORD DVD's? Huh..........

How about all those BLANK CD's for sale.........

[Diablo Bob]

By the way, in your topic title, Buying Pirarted Dvds/cds is Stealing

My pirated version of Internet Explorer indicates that your legitimate version of Internet Explorer doesn't know how to spell!

[Mighty Mouse]

Now that everybody has virtually admitted to buying pirated DVD movies, allow me to pass on to you some good advice.

Buying from weekend markets, foot sloggers, street stalls etc. will usually get you a poorly made copy of the movie you are dying to see.

There is nothing worse than setting up your sound system, keying in your viewing preferences and then sitting down in anticipation of two hours of good movie watching only to find that the movie was made from a poor quality digital camera set up in some public theatre.

You all know what I mean, people coughing throughout the movie or audience members walking across your screen.

Find a DVD specialist shop that stocks the latest original movies. There are a couple of great shops on Second Road in Pattaya.

These shops have a back room where they keep numerous catelogues of available pirated movies. They make them from the master copy and all are perfect. Place your order, pay a cheap price according to the number of movies you buy and the shop will guarantee the quality of the copy.

The downside to this is that the shops may not yet have the master copy of the very latest movies and you may be forced to wait until they do have.

[Phil B]

i found a good shop in udon and after repeated business i got a discount and he always told me if it was a good copy or the camera in the back kind.

[ProfessorFart]

At the end of the day the only people squealing about 'stealing' are those whos profits are slightly dented.

My question is will these bands and film makers stop producing their goods if piracy continues?

I think not.

Will they have to bring their outrageous prices down to combat piracy?

Very probably.

[PREM-R]

Earlier postings from the OP include:-

Posted on: 2006-04-16 05:38:24

i am the canadian ambassador to thailand

Posted on: 2006-05-01 20:33:02

one of my neighbors is nigerian. i saw him bring a live pig into his flat with a few friends. what followed i am pretty sure was some sort of animal sacrifice/african voodo. i could hear them murdering the poor thing.

my gf also told me that some of these guys are here to try and take over the souls of thais for the afterlife. there was an article on this type of practice. it has to do with buddhism. khmers are also voodooists.

The OP's "holiday" from TV may do him good

[Cassandra]

At the end of the day the only people squealing about 'stealing' are those whos profits are slightly dented.

My question is will these bands and film makers stop producing their goods if piracy continues?

I think not.

Will they have to bring their outrageous prices down to combat piracy?

Very probably.

Excellent post which really should be the last word on the subject.I understand that the big Western suppliers are considering authorisation of sale of DVDs in China for a couple of dollars in an attempt to combat piracy, and one assumes they can make a profit margin at this level.This raises the question of why they gouge the rest of us.Let the iron hand of the market -which includes the black market- prevail.

[Insight]

One DVD I was looking for this morning is here.

In case you missed the price for the box set of 5 episodes, it's 70.99 GBP.

I'll be giving UKNova/Isohunt a few scans before entering my credit card details.

[sriracha john]

One DVD I was looking for this morning is here.

In case you missed the price for the box set of 5 episodes, it's 70.99 GBP.

I'll be giving UKNova/Isohunt a few scans before entering my credit card details.

so, roughly... for a 2-disc set,

it's either pay 5,000 baht or pay 200 baht....

Hmmm.... decisions, decisions...

Edited May 3, 2006 by sriracha john

[bkkmadness]

One DVD I was looking for this morning is here.

In case you missed the price for the box set of 5 episodes, it's 70.99 GBP.

I'll be giving UKNova/Isohunt a few scans before entering my credit card details.

so, roughly... for a 2-disc set,

it's either pay 5,000 baht or pay 200 baht....

Hmmm.... decisions, decisions...

I think Insights decision is going to be 5000 baht or free actually mate. 100 baht is too expensive for a dvd these days.

[agsnowdon]

One DVD I was looking for this morning is here.

In case you missed the price for the box set of 5 episodes, it's 70.99 GBP.

I'll be giving UKNova/Isohunt a few scans before entering my credit card details.

so, roughly... for a 2-disc set,

it's either pay 5,000 baht or pay 200 baht....

Hmmm.... decisions, decisions...

I think Insights decision is going to be 5000 baht or free actually mate. 100 baht is too expensive for a dvd these days.

I don't mean to have a dig but you keep going on about its free but how free is it you still got to pay for your internet, electric and wear and tear on your PC.

Some people on this forum may not know how to use torrent sites. I myself do but still like to buy the DVD copied or real to add it to my vast collection.

No offence meant. Please forgive me.

[astral]

I have no sympathy for a movie industry that tells me I cannot use the

DVD's I bought in the UK over in Thailand.

They also sold me cd's that would last for ever, but are now suffering from cd rot.................

The new standard for HD disks is going to be just as bad.

[kkf123]

If a farang makes almost 200,000 baht a month and I only make 5,00 baht a month why should I feel guilty about over charging him? The amount of money I over charge for him isnt going to make him cry or ruin his life?

You can come up with all the rationalizations you want, or you can just stop being hypocrites and admit what you are doing is stealing.

[kkf123]

Tesco Lotus makes a ton of money in a day, surely it doesnt matter if I steal a few items from the store right?

[ProfessorFart]

No one is denying it Pumpkin!

[bkkmadness]

I don't mean to have a dig but you keep going on about its free but how free is it you still got to pay for your internet, electric and wear and tear on your PC.

Well, close enough to free I suppose. I pay about 4500 baht electric a month, and 890 baht for my net a month, and my pc is propbably worth around the 5000 baht mark coz its an ancient piece of crap.

So it takes about 10 minutes to download a software programme, you can work it out if you like but probaly costs under a baht when you factor in all the expenses of electric and internet. Close enough to free for me dude.

[chuchok]

If a farang makes almost 200,000 baht a month and I only make 5,00 baht a month why should I feel guilty about over charging him? The amount of money I over charge for him isnt going to make him cry or ruin his life?

You can come up with all the rationalizations you want, or you can just stop being hypocrites and admit what you are doing is stealing.

I was not going to buy and DVD's this month,but I've changed my mind.I think I'll go out and buy a gross of 'em. Thanks for giving me the motivation.

cheers

[bkkmadness]

If a farang makes almost 200,000 baht a month and I only make 5,00 baht a month why should I feel guilty about over charging him? The amount of money I over charge for him isnt going to make him cry or ruin his life?

You can come up with all the rationalizations you want, or you can just stop being hypocrites and admit what you are doing is stealing.

Nobody gives a shit though, so yes its stealing, we all know that now, thanks for your astute observations. Have you got another point to make?

[PREM-R]

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So you are back kkf123, so the verdict was "Not Guilty"

[Donz]

pirated DVD's are great.

When i go to thailand i love getting the movies before they are even in cinames in australia.

Im only pissed when they dont work properly. But cant complain coz it was cheap.

Im not stealing, im just buying a stolen product.

Because the people who burn the dvd's are the ones stealing.

[Thaiquila]

It is not exactly stealing. It is definitely an infringement of the copyright rights of the producers. Stealing would be running off with the pirated DVDs without paying the seller.

I think in countries like Thailand, the producers could solve the problem by just offering the real thing for about the same price as the pirated, with primo quality guaranteed. The DVDs could be marked for use in Thailand only, and illegal to export abroad. Then, they would get all this lost income, and as Thailand gets richer, slowly raise the prices (just as pirated DVDs rise over time). Of course, noooo, that would be too easy, and instead we have the Micky Mouse game with police busting pirated DVD merchants during times of crackdowns.

As far as rationalizing go, there are lots of offbeat art films for sale on the streets that never have and never will see the light of day in Thailand, and are impossible to buy in a legit store. So, for resident farangs who love non-mainstream film, buying this way is really the only practical way to get the product.

Edited May 3, 2006 by Thaiquila

[h90]

Its amazing how many of the people on here hate the idea of being short changed in a bar, yet have no problem purchasing copyrighted material on the street.

The reason why is it so cheap, is because its stealing.

So why do you do it? Or rather, why do you get made when someone steals your wallet or overcharges you?

Hypocrites!

this is already 1.000.000 times mentioned.....

when I steal your car, I have it and you don't have it anymore. So you lost your car.

If Mr. Somchai or Mr. H90 who have basically zero money buy pirated software worth 100.000 Baht if Original, but spend 150 Baht who lost what???

Microsoft, Adobe and so on still have their software, they did not loose anything and Mr Somchai or H90 would have never bought the Original as they don't have money.

No damage, no stealing