Thai govt urges restraint on Preah Vihear ruling

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Govt urges restraint on Preah Vihear ruling
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Good relations with Cambodia called crucial after world court verdict

BANGKOK: -- The government and military have held back on making definitive comments on the Preah Vihear case, waiting to see what transpires from a meeting with the Cambodian side.

As villagers living along the border cheered and welcomed the restoration of peace after the International Court of Justice's verdict, heavy discussion took place on Facebook. Some calculated the loss of land to Cambodia after the World Court's verdict on the promontory of the Hindu temple. A few postings were about the 4.6-square-kilometre disputed area, which will be jointly developed by Thailand and Cambodia.

The court on Monday ruled that the vicinity of the Preah Vihear Temple in accordance with the Annex I map was under the sovereignty of Cambodia. The territory in question does not correspond to the disputed 4.6 square kilometres, and its exact dimensions remain unclear.

Yesterday, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and Deputy Defence Minister General Yuthasak Sasiprapha pleaded that Thai citizens first think about Thai-Cambodian relations rather than the disadvantages inherent in the verdict, while urging politicians not to use this for political gain.

The Thai-Cambodian joint committee will convene as soon as possible, Yingluck said after the Cabinet meeting yesterday. Fo-reign Minister Surapong Tovicha-kchaikul will hold talks with his Cambodian counterpart and when they are ready, the committee will meet. For now, soldiers are guarding their posts until the joint committee reaches an agreement.

Yingluck brushed aside the question of how long it would take to find out how much land Thailand would lose to Cambodia under the redefined promontory.

Regarding foreign media re-ports that Thailand had lost land to Cambodia, she said it was not a matter of win or lose, but this was a win-win ruling for both countries. "Two neighbours live together without a fight or violence. This should be what all want," she said.

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thailand had not lost its land, as the "small area" that the court ruled on was not yet specified. He said that while all were free to comment on the verdict, people should be careful, with the knowledge that one bad word could provoke a war.

"Soldiers are fully deployed to the South and disaster relief ... We can't afford another fight."

Late on Monday, Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Hor Namhong told reporters in The Hague: "We could say we both win the judgement. By asking the court to interpret the 1962 judgement, Cambodia has only one will - to settle the dispute with Thailand peacefully and to have Thailand stay as a good neighbour. We are close to each other, we cannot stay away," he said.

Surapong and Yuthasak arrived in Bangkok from the Netherlands yesterday, while Virachai Plasai, Thai ambassador to The Hague, will return today. Led by Yingluck, all of them will testify before Parliament today and take questions from MPs and senators.

Saying the translation and in-terpretation of the verdict was under way, Surapong said it was important that all Thais had a single message, for the peace of both nations. He noted that this understanding would facilitate Thai-land's stand at the joint committee meeting.

"These [efforts] are to allow both countries to move forward. We must preserve our relations with Cambodia, as our co-existence will be forever. People of both nations are happy with the verdict," he said.

Professor Chaiwat Khamchoo of Chulalongkorn University's faculty of political science urged that Thais to maintain unity and not drag the Preah Vihear issue into politics. He said the case went to the court again because it was politicised at home. The university on Friday will host a seminar on the ruling, with Ambassador Virachai as a speaker.

-- The Nation 2013-11-13

[JoeThePoster]

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thailand had not lost its land, as the "small area" that the court ruled on was not yet specified.

How does he know it's a small area if it's not yet specified?

[paulklee]

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thailand had not lost its land, as the "small area" that the court ruled on was not yet specified. He said that while all were free to comment on the verdict, people should be careful, with the knowledge that one bad word could provoke a war.

"Soldiers are fully deployed to the South and disaster relief ... We can't afford another fight."

Maybe the general should watch his own words, and should not give the potential "enemy" the news that Thailand can't afford another fight!

[Local Drunk]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

[oldsailor35]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

Just a load of stupid ignorant Dem propaganda...............Absolute unproven bulldust.

[Spare]

Not only Thailand did not win back the temple, Thailand lost more land.

Win-Win for Cambodia-Cambodia.

[GrantSmith]

Anyone care to caption that photo?

[Thaddeus]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

Just a load of stupid ignorant Dem propaganda...............Absolute unproven bulldust.

Again.

The dispute with Cambodia began when Foreign Minister Noppadom Pattama supported Cambodia’s bid for UNESCO recognition for Preah Vihear as a world heritage site

Source: http://citation.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/4/1/5/4/7/pages415474/p415474-15.php

Noppadom is well known for only following orders from one man. Why he did it is another matter altogether.

But isn't it strange that the one man and his eternal friend had meetings around that time that they denied. Then a few meetings later that they didn't deny. Then after that the 'one man' was made a special economic advisor to Cambodia by his mate.

[fab4]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

Again with the unproven allegations. Still waiting for you to come up with proof from the last time you made this allegation. Still nothing.

[fab4]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

Just a load of stupid ignorant Dem propaganda...............Absolute unproven bulldust.

Again.

The dispute with Cambodia began when Foreign Minister Noppadom Pattama supported Cambodia’s bid for UNESCO recognition for Preah Vihear as a world heritage site

Source: http://citation.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/4/1/5/4/7/pages415474/p415474-15.php

Noppadom is well known for only following orders from one man. Why he did it is another matter altogether.

But isn't it strange that the one man and his eternal friend had meetings around that time that they denied. Then a few meetings later that they didn't deny. Then after that the 'one man' was made a special economic advisor to Cambodia by his mate.

Well not quite. It was quite likely the dispute between Thailand and Cambodia began the moment the Thai troops took over the temple the minute French had moved out from Cambodia back in 1954. The Cambodians made an official complaint to the ICJ in 1959 which led to the 1962 ruling which led to the 2013 ruling.

Or have I got it all wrong and it was all the fault of Thaksin?

[Always18]

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thailand had not lost its land, as the "small area" that the court ruled on was not yet specified.

How does he know it's a small area if it's not yet specified?

If you listen to the full English language judgement, as I did, there appeared to be NO ambiguity about the area being ruled upon.

The area of land surrounding the temple was VERY clearly defined by the court as being the small promontory of land upon which the temple sits, bounded at the south and east by the land falling away down to (undisputedly) Cambodian sovereign territory, to the north by the "French marked" border line on the "annexe 1" map produced as the Cambodian exhibit in the 1962 judgement and to the west by the valley separating this promontory from the other area of land still under dispute.

The Thai government are blatantly trying to muddy the waters (and save face) by claiming that it's still unclear!

Edited November 13, 2013 by Always18

[Thaddeus]

Source: http://citation.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/4/1/5/4/7/pages415474/p415474-15.php

Noppadom is well known for only following orders from one man. Why he did it is another matter altogether.

But isn't it strange that the one man and his eternal friend had meetings around that time that they denied. Then a few meetings later that they didn't deny. Then after that the 'one man' was made a special economic advisor to Cambodia by his mate.

Well not quite. It was quite likely the dispute between Thailand and Cambodia began the moment the Thai troops took over the temple the minute French had moved out from Cambodia back in 1954. The Cambodians made an official complaint to the ICJ in 1959 which led to the 1962 ruling which led to the 2013 ruling.

Or have I got it all wrong and it was all the fault of Thaksin?

Don't you find it odd that for over 40 years this little bit of land didn't even cause a blip on the radar. and then.............

https://www.google.com/#newwindow=1&q=oil+discovered+in+gulf+of+thailand+2008+cambodia&safe=off

Oh look, money, I wonder who would want that, and who would want to cause a kerfuffle over disputed borders, who would have the ability to do that?

[oyster]

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thailand had not lost its land, as the "small area" that the court ruled on was not yet specified.

How does he know it's a small area if it's not yet specified?

If you listen to the full English language judgement, as I did, there appeared to be NO ambiguity about the area being ruled upon.

The area of land surrounding the temple was VERY clearly defined by the court as being the small promontory of land upon which the temple sits, bounded at the south and east by the land falling away down to (undisputedly) Cambodian sovereign territory, to the north by the "French marked" border line on the "annexe 1" map produced as the Cambodian exhibit in the 1962 judgement and to the west by the valley separating this promontory from the other area of land still under dispute.

The Thai government are blatantly trying to muddy the waters (and save face) by claiming that it's still unclear!

A very good opportunity for the Thais to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat - to save any argument or doubt GIVE the disputed 4.5 acres to Cambodia as a peace gift. Now who's smelling of roses?

[phantomfiddler]

Her brother (Thaksin) literally gave it to Sen as part of their oil concessions in the gulf.

Just a load of stupid ignorant Dem propaganda...............Absolute unproven bulldust.

I don,t get it ! The Bangkok Post headlined it as a WIN-WIN for Thailand, so it would appear that someone is telling porkies ! If I came into a win win situation I,d just sit there and

[whybother]

"welcomed the restoration of peace after the International Court of Justice's verdict"

Wasn't there peace before the verdict?