Abhisit, Suthep to be indicted Dec 12 as scheduled

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Abhisit, Suthep to be indicted Dec 12 as scheduled



BANGKOK, Nov 13 – Former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his then deputy Suthep Thaugsuban will be summoned to the Criminal Court for indictment on Dec 12, a senior public prosecution official said yesterday.

Nantasak Poonsuk, director general of the Special Litigation Department, said the two allegedly ordered the dispersal of demonstrators in the 2010 political unrest in Bangkok which killed nearly 100 people and injured many others.

Mr Abhsit and Mr Suthep, both now Democrat MPs, were protected from legal action or arrest during the parliamentary session. The present session is due to end early next month.

Mr Nantasak said the indictment against Mr Suthep will not be rescheduled despite his resignation from the House of Representatives today, consequently ending his parliamentary immunity.

The Dec 12 appointment was already set and it will not be changed, he said. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2013-11-13

[angsta]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

[jdinasia]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

They are very lucky. They are being charged as private citizens for events that happened when they were in public office. The court will have to dismiss the cases and then they will be exempt from being charged again. Which will finally make these silly charges go away for ever.

[Katipo]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

[Artisi]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

You mean nice as in the hands-off attitude displayed for the majority of time the fugitive criminal caddy backed red-shirted thugs tried to over-run the country. I think they should be answering to the people of Thailand what took them so long is resolving the problem. The red-shirt thugs should have been wacked much sooner and harder taking them completely out of the picture along with the scum-bags egging them on from the comfort of their lounge room / rat-hole.

Of course all the red-shirt lovers will side with you supporting your red-haze view of the world.

Edited November 13, 2013 by Artisi

[gerry1011]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair               

They are very lucky. They are being charged as private citizens for events that happened when they were in public office. The court will have to dismiss the cases and then they will be exempt from being charged again. Which will finally make these silly charges go away for ever.

I already imagine the frenzy on here if they are convicted

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[fab4]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

[edwinchester]

Hasn't Suthep resigned as an MP so losing his immunity?

Why not indict today?

[GentlemanJim]

Mr Nantasak said the indictment against Mr Suthep will not be rescheduled despite his resignation from the House of Representatives today, consequently ending his parliamentary immunity.

The only reason of course being that if they indicted Suthep at the moment they know what would happen on the streets of Bangkok, as the protestors are already there.

I truly hope the trials take place and the technicalities of civilians being charged whilst holding public office are kept until the end. Their is a LOT of evidence and witnesses to be called that will incriminate a lot of current red leaders and of course the man from Dubai and not forgetting Tharit. Dubai man and Yingluck clearly did not think things would go this far and I bet are more than slightly concerned that Abhisit and Suthep will take the stand. It will be much more entertainment than the OJ Simpson trials that's for sure.

[fab4]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

You mean nice as in the hands-off attitude displayed for the majority of time the fugitive criminal caddy backed red-shirted thugs tried to over-run the country. I think they should be answering to the people of Thailand what took them so long is resolving the problem. The red-shirt thugs should have been wacked much sooner and harder taking them completely out of the picture along with the scum-bags egging them on from the comfort of their lounge room / rat-hole.

Of course all the red-shirt lovers will side with you supporting your red-haze view of the world.

Kind of like your avatar, it's hard to imagine getting, as you put it in your vile turn of phrase, "wacked much sooner and harder taking them completely out of the picture" than being shot dead. Then again, you may not understand the bathos in your avatar, either

[GentlemanJim]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

you have been around long enough under a different name to know exactly which video's are being discussed. Let your fingers do the walking and you will find a lot more than one video But then you will have done that before.

[winstonc]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

you have been around long enough under a different name to know exactly which video's are being discussed. Let your fingers do the walking and you will find a lot more than one video But then you will have done that before.

come on james dont take the only thing he lives for everyday away from him..remember him and the gang..only comment on posters views not the actual story your commenting on..their equivelant of porn...bet i get a nibble..

[Thainy Tim]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

[Artisi]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

You mean nice as in the hands-off attitude displayed for the majority of time the fugitive criminal caddy backed red-shirted thugs tried to over-run the country. I think they should be answering to the people of Thailand what took them so long is resolving the problem. The red-shirt thugs should have been wacked much sooner and harder taking them completely out of the picture along with the scum-bags egging them on from the comfort of their lounge room / rat-hole.

Of course all the red-shirt lovers will side with you supporting your red-haze view of the world.

Kind of like your avatar, it's hard to imagine getting, as you put it in your vile turn of phrase, "wacked much sooner and harder taking them completely out of the picture" than being shot dead. Then again, you may not understand the bathos in your avatar, either

As predicted, very quick on the up-take for a red, and as a red supporter I'm sure you well understand the team shot dead, wasn't that the main function of the armed paid for "men in black" and "red-shirts" together with threatening to ignite gas trucks, burn the city etc - but guess in your eyes that's different - because you're a supporter of the true and faithful legitimate ruler of Thailand currently resident o/seas covering his sorry ar_se.

And yes, I fully understand bathos especially when used to deliberately to produce a humorous effect.

[rubl]

Personally I would imagine that the court first covers the technicalities of procedures to charge/indict are followed properly and only then really accept the cases. That would probably mean the case will be thrown out as a 'premeditated murder' charge as private persons while in office as PM and Dept. PM seems somewhat ridiculous.

I'm not sure if that means the duo cannot be charged anymore for the same deaths. I would assume 'double jeopardy' would only apply when the case has been judged and the duo is acquitted on current charges.

Mind you, I'm not into law in general or Thai law specifically.

Mr Nantasak said the indictment against Mr Suthep will not be rescheduled despite his resignation from the House of Representatives today, consequently ending his parliamentary immunity.

The only reason of course being that if they indicted Suthep at the moment they know what would happen on the streets of Bangkok, as the protestors are already there.

I truly hope the trials take place and the technicalities of civilians being charged whilst holding public office are kept until the end. Their is a LOT of evidence and witnesses to be called that will incriminate a lot of current red leaders and of course the man from Dubai and not forgetting Tharit. Dubai man and Yingluck clearly did not think things would go this far and I bet are more than slightly concerned that Abhisit and Suthep will take the stand. It will be much more entertainment than the OJ Simpson trials that's for sure.

[dru2]

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair

They are very lucky. They are being charged as private citizens for events that happened when they were in public office. The court will have to dismiss the cases and then they will be exempt from being charged again. Which will finally make these silly charges go away for ever.

I already imagine the frenzy on here if they are convicted

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There's no chance at all of them being convicted, so dream on, Thaksin lickspittle.

[Mampara]

This is definitely the wrong move to make at this time. this will only encourage a stronger opposition to the powers at hand, and make the people fight harder to overcome this problem.

[backtonormal]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

A couple of likes from like minded people. I would rather see the link before commenting. Can you post a link to it please

[backtonormal]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

The only evidence around the killing of the 7 soldiers is that one of their own lobbed it in from the side to up the anti. (Amsterdam report) for his time in office, Abhisit never offered any contaray evidence so we must be right to assume he could not contradict the report.

[coma]

Good luck lads. There's not a fair court in the world that could find them guilty of these charges.

[bigbamboo]

Hasn't Suthep resigned as an MP so losing his immunity?

Why not indict today?

They need time to sort the judges out first.

[thaicbr]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

The only evidence around the killing of the 7 soldiers is that one of their own lobbed it in from the side to up the anti. (Amsterdam report) for his time in office, Abhisit never offered any contaray evidence so we must be right to assume he could not contradict the report.

Where's your link to said report.. I have always considered that Robert Amsterdam would have made a damn fine fiction writer. His work in Wikipedia (various) is sublime.

[rubl]

Somewhat despicable, I think.

So, as Abhisit didn't offer any contrary evidence to a lot of hearsay, rumours, and doctored evidence, some obviously conclude that all that must be true.

The only evidence around the killing of the 7 soldiers is that one of their own lobbed it in from the side to up the anti. (Amsterdam report) for his time in office, Abhisit never offered any contaray evidence so we must be right to assume he could not contradict the report.

[mrtoad]

This is an absolute joke, and Tarit is a fool for pursuing this along with the AG.

If they were serious we'd have Nattahwat, Weng, Thida, Arisman, Jatuporn, Thaksin, that knob from Udon (Kwanchai) all up on similar charges.

[Katipo]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

A couple of likes from like minded people. I would rather see the link before commenting. Can you post a link to it please

Still searching for the exact video. This one is not the one I am looking for, but shows a soldier shot by the redshirts....

The one I was looking for has a soldier who is unarmed outside of the truck approached from behind, shot, and then a man in black with a gun is clearly seen running away.

I am not saying the army were not guilty, they very well may have been. What I am saying is that the redshirts also have blood on their hands and are as guilty if not more so for the violence that took place in 2010.

[prighas]

so you have one so-called fugitive sentenced for 2 years for exercising his power for land purchase. Amazing!! What a crime!! Hundreds of other politicians (on the opposition side) may have been involved in similar type scenarios - only have not been caught. Then you have sons and daughters of the elite killing people on the roads here and there - and then escaping with suspended sentences or fleeing to Singapore. This double-standard is rampant in this society whoever be in power - reds or yellows or others. Suddenly, one side thinks it is 'ethical' to ban an amnesty bill. Totally agreed to that because everyone who is convicted must pay for their crime. However, does this solve anything? Does it solve the double-standards in society? Does it bring everyone to justice? What about the other guys who shut down the airports for 11 days? These so-called riots may appear to be of a legitimate purpose but they are nothing more than just a thirst for 'power'. And both sides are just playing a political game and we are all stuck in between.

[MrSlatersParrot]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

Hiro Muramoto's last footage

Footage taken by Reuters cameraman Hiro Muramoto shortly before 9 p.m. on April 10, 2010. Hiro filmed the grenade attack that killed Colonel Romklao Thuwatham. Shortly afterwards, Hiro was shot in the chest and killed.

"But the lies from the other side — in particular, Abhisit Vejjajiva, Suthep Thaugsuban, General Prayuth Chan-ocha and preening army spokesman Colonel Sansern “Kai Oo” Kaewkamnerd — were even more outrageous. Incredibly they tried to claim that despite firing up to 117,923 bullets including 2,500 sniper rounds, the Thai army did not kill or injure a single person. Every single death or injury, the military claims, was the work of the shadowy “men in black”.(quote from Andrew MacGregor Marshall)"

Wat Pathum footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv0bpnXEmW8

[MrSlatersParrot]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

The only evidence around the killing of the 7 soldiers is that one of their own lobbed it in from the side to up the anti. (Amsterdam report) for his time in office, Abhisit never offered any contaray evidence so we must be right to assume he could not contradict the report.

Clearly there was a grenade explosion but no evidence it was fired from a distance because there is just an explosion with no warning that took everyone on both sides by surprise.

The red shirts were at a distance from the explosion of about 100 meters and it was night time and the soldiers had covered up their insignia.

It's thought that the culprits may have been from the Kings guard.

[gemini81]

Mr Slaters Parrot is just trolling to get you guys worked up. *Click* (that's the sound of my troll block)

[GentlemanJim]

'Ordered the dispersal'? Wouldn't say that was the strongest of arguments.

Yet there was clear video footage of a men in black coming up behing a soldier on Rama 4 and shooting him from behind, and yet nothing was ever made of it.

Link please. There were so many videos cited on here of MIB or Red Shirts killing civilians/military I get confused which one this is you refer to?

Just youtube it. There are plenty of videos, and I suppose you will ignore it all kicked off with grenades being lobbed at the army killing 7 soldiers. In any country that I know of, if you do that, then people are going to die.

Only in Thailand are the PM and deputy indicted, not because they are guilty of anything, because it is all part of the childish red political farce.

The only reason the AG has singled them out and put them up for indictment, is because he was handpicked and put into office on the orders of Mr T in the hope that it would hold extra incentives for the dems to go along with the dopey amnesty bill. But look what happened to that. haha.

They won't be found guilty of anything and everyone knows it apart from the blind red sheep, whom want high caliber scapegoats. It is hilarious to think they are so stupid they think there will be a conviction.

It's all politically motivated, it will never and should never happen.,

There are rules of engagement set out long before this happened, and it played out the way it did because CORRECTLY, the rules of engagement were validated by red aggression and violence.

If anyone should be indicted, it should be Thaksin for sending them in to be knowingly (by him) slaughtered just to stoke sympathy.

As soon as the army were within their right to protect themselves and the nation's capital, and the guns started, the reds should have got the hell out. But they didn't, they continued to confront and battle the army, not out of bravery, out of stupidity.

The only person I felt sorry for was Hirohito. The rest? You play with fire, you get burned.

To think the PM and deputy issued direct orders to murder is ludicrous. You won't kid anyone on here matey, you are only kidding yourself and may I add, you are being very successful at it.

The only evidence around the killing of the 7 soldiers is that one of their own lobbed it in from the side to up the anti. (Amsterdam report) for his time in office, Abhisit never offered any contaray evidence so we must be right to assume he could not contradict the report.

Would that be the same Amsterdam who was working for and on the payroll of Thaksin? Until he was sacked that is. The 'Amsterdam Report', God help us!