last night a night of road nightmares

[BigC]

i have photo evidence that 1 bike bike crash in Banrak 2030 hourss 2 forang 1 thai man fornag man died

Then seperate case man on ghost road ( soi Bob Ghai ) was found dead next to a bike reckage. He was Thai looked like a hit a run,

Then at around 0230 hrs traffic to a strand still as a Thai man drunk crashed into a concrete post with cables all over the road and his pick up truck smashed to peices. amzingly he did not die.

Pus another forang killed in a car crash was dead in sdie his pick up truck at 1544 hours and those are just the ones i know about

[carmine]

Kinda makes you wonder just how bad the "real" road statistics are on this island. Very scary stuff.

Be very careful out there folks, especially tomorrow night for a very busy Loy Katong

[PoorSucker]

Some people started cerebrating Loy Katong yesterday.

Today is lottery day, also a party night among Thais.

[Boater]

Kinda makes you wonder just how bad the "real" road statistics are on this island.  Very scary stuff.

 

Be very careful out there folks, especially tomorrow night for a very busy Loy Katong

The real road statistics would be scary reading , but on an average day I would say 10 serious accidents a day ? Maybe 2 deaths ?

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[Battybird]

Combination of Loy Krathong and tourists going to the Full Moon Party who can't ride bikes properly. Stay off the roads for the next couple of nights.

[Boater]

Combination of Loy Krathong and tourists going to the Full Moon Party who can't ride bikes properly.  Stay off the roads for the next couple of nights.

Road deaths could be cut in half over night , but trying to sort samui roads out is like a broken record

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[Birdman]

all know that, but still....people drive like crazy racers. Can't believe how dangerous many overtake others when it's absolutely not safe. And that on motorbikes with slippers and shorts only, unbelievable.

Death can be around the next corner, so can disability, months and years of painful medical rehabilitation, loss of work, wife, family, money etc etc etc ....only because one crazy overtaking...

Edited November 16, 2013 by Birdman

[BigC]

Also the other problem is other drunk un safe drivers

Where you can be driving correct or sitting on a bike at some traffic lights wearing all the right gear then crash wallap a drunk man in a pick up goes arrogant though u

People pulling out with out indication, warning or looking

Then someone is in th back of a rubbish truck

Also drunk people coming on the other side of the road towards you whilst u r driving normally and crashes head on

When people drive drunk they drive like snakes

I videoed someone once as I was sure that only fate stopped aaas destruction

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[steelerian]

If the authorities cracked down on the taxi drivers and made them use their meters people wouldnt drive drunk anywhere near as much, and I guarantee you would see an huge fall in RTAs, instantly.

[pdwarf1]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

[DekDaeng]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

Not this broken record again!

[DogNo1]

What is a fornag?

[robsamui]

Kinda makes you wonder just how bad the "real" road statistics are on this island. Very scary stuff.

Be very careful out there folks, especially tomorrow night for a very busy Loy Katong

The real road statistics would be scary reading , but on an average day I would say 10 serious accidents a day ? Maybe 2 deaths ?

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I raised this in a previous topic.

To get my points follow the link below!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/611188-60-tourists-die-per-month-on-motorbikes-in-koh-samui/

SUMMARY:

Posted 2013-01-11 17:22:12

• Road deaths are now calculated based on fatalities on-site. Victims dying later in hospital not counted.
• In 2000 there was an average of 30 deaths a month on Koh Samui (official figures released each month).
• Now it is stated that Koh Samui has 3-5 deaths each month (using the new way of reporting road deaths).
• In the last ten years the population has almost doubled and there are now 5x more vehicles on Koh Samui.

• Based on ‘official figures’ today it is possible to estimate that Koh Samui currently has 60 deaths per million per year. (Compared to 23 in London.)

• Based on the population and traffic density statistics from 10 years ago Koh Samui has in reality 720 deaths per million per year. This is probably the highest rate of road deaths in the world.

Samui is a fatality death spot that nobody is willing to acknowledge!

I love the place. it's my home and has been for almost 15 years. But it can't be denied!

R

Edited November 16, 2013 by robsamui

[telldem]

What is a fornag?

Dyslexia

[carmine]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

You might not know it there are Thais that live here who would also like to see the roads safe so that they and there kids can live a full life rather than killed in a road accident by a drunken idiot.

Those same Thais are also probably thinking that we don't need foreigners with your irresponsible attitudes.

[ikbenhet]

What is a fornag?

It's Big C's for Farang.

[evadgib]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

"If the foreigners weren't here it wouldn't have happened?" I wonder......

Is this him heading the pack @ 0.12 sec?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J9pkClY9T0

Edited November 17, 2013 by evadgib

[MantisMan]

Jeez, I'm already scared as it is driving, now with these statistics and all?

I'm REALLY scared!

I have a question:

I see lots of school kids finishing the day at school, heading home on their bikes with no helmets.

If it is the law to wear one, why is it the schools have not made it mandatory that kids riding bikes to school must wear a helmet?

In other words, why are the schools (government based) not pushing this LAW or at the very least, giving lectures on it from teachers and principals to the kids in the classrooms or auditoriums?

Edited November 17, 2013 by MantisMan

[edwinchester]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

Where should my Thai mother in law go? Her eldest son was killed by a drunk driver who paid off the police to escape any responsibility.

[BigC]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

We are not moaning just promoting self awarness, It is alright to moan as long as people can provide a suggestion in how to deal with the problem.

It is not only forangs that are killed. The Thai also are not happy with the safety issues

[PoorSucker]

I have a question:

I see lots of school kids finishing the day at school, heading home on their bikes with no helmets.

If it is the law to wear one, why is it the schools have not made it mandatory that kids riding bikes to school must wear a helmet?

Because they have no driving licenses, you must be 18 for that.

So they can't make it mandatory to wear a helmet as that would mean they are officially acknowledging that breaking the law is OK.

[Tropicalevo]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

Where should my Thai mother in law go? Her eldest son was killed by a drunk driver who paid off the police to escape any responsibility.

Sorry for the unhappy news.

If the accident happened on Samui - not a lot of choices.

1 A local lawyer who will take on the Samui Big Boys - costs a fair bit of money, but an initial meeting will let you know the probable results. I can PM details of one if you wish.

2 Go to the Suratthani police.

I know of a few people who have struggled for justice on Samui, but found a result by using the above options

[edwinchester]

 

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

Where should my Thai mother in law go? Her eldest son was killed by a drunk driver who paid off the police to escape any responsibility.

 

 

Sorry for the unhappy news.

 

If the accident happened on Samui - not a lot of choices.

 

1 A local lawyer who will take on the Samui Big Boys - costs a fair bit of money, but an initial meeting will let you know the probable results. I can PM details of one if you wish.

 

2 Go to the Suratthani police.

 

I know of a few people who have struggled for justice on Samui, but found a result by using the above options

 

Thanks for the suggestions. Accident happened in Central Thailand and the legal route was fruitlessly pursued unfortunately. Family just gave up after their shabby treatment by police and legal system.

[BigC]

So Why not go back to your home countries where it is safer??????????????????????????????

Where should my Thai mother in law go? Her eldest son was killed by a drunk driver who paid off the police to escape any responsibility.

dont worry this person is obviously trolling. The jist is that we the people make the enviroment. If it takes the deaths of people to change it and raise awarness then there shall be less deaths. Like it or not Forangs and Thais at the moment life here side by side and with each other so i doubt comments such as " why dont you go home then" shall shock all of us into packing up and leaving.

Because i have seen allot of deaths does not mean i have a problem with samui.

It is like a pipe leaking in my house. i dont hate my house because of a damaged pipe and leave it. i just fix it.

Unless the problems in the house out way the cost of fixing it then i might move but for me the problems in samui are not enogh to make me want to leave as i and most people and the news only normally talking about the bad things because shocking news does interest us as humans.

I doubt there are many people or news paper that print. 20 thousands tourists went to the beach today relaxed had beach massages and went home with no problems,

no one really cares about that as it is not interesting reading

[Master of the court]

Any news about the Banrak accident ? What happen to the other persons was it car vs bike and who drove the bike ?

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[limbos]

I have a question:

I see lots of school kids finishing the day at school, heading home on their bikes with no helmets.

If it is the law to wear one, why is it the schools have not made it mandatory that kids riding bikes to school must wear a helmet?

Because they have no driving licenses, you must be 18 for that.

So they can't make it mandatory to wear a helmet as that would mean they are officially acknowledging that breaking the law is OK.

Oh so true, this is a fairly big problem on Samui, local parents letting their children drive motorbikes before they're legally old enough to actually drive a bike. It becomes really scary when you would have an accident with one of the kids driving a bike who isn't old enough, regardless of the question who's mistake the accident caused, you'll be likely to pay the family in question money to settle the case.

One of the most reverse logic items I know.

[BigC]

Any news about the Banrak accident ? What happen to the other persons was it car vs bike and who drove the bike ?

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bike on bike

2 forang on one bike 1 man 1 woman. Man died, the thai man was riding the other bike as to the over all details i cannot be specfic on the rest on this picture of the after math

[saweden]

What a nightmare! Driving on Samui is really something that worries me. Even if I wear a helmet and never drink and drive I could be hit by some moron who hasn't been as considerate.

But what I want to know: is it correct to assume that most accidents happen at night? Is there any statistics showing this? (combination of people being drunk and it being dark should significantly increase the risk).

Do the odds of getting killed decrease if you drive sober in the daytime, slowly and wear a helmet? Or is it just as dangerous in the daytime due to kids driving, careless driving and what have you (daytime drinkers)?

Perhaps one should simply not drive on Samui

Edited November 18, 2013 by saweden

[PoorSucker]

But what I want to know: is it correct to assume that most accidents happen at night? Is there any statistics showing this? (combination of people being drunk and it being dark should significantly increase the risk).

My 9th year on Samui.

I don't drive in the dark especially between Chaweng and Lamai.

Sometimes I have to go for emergency diapers/babyfood at Tops (closes (2AM)), then I use the lesser known roads (only locals there).

[AngThong]

Perhaps one should simply not drive on Samui

...or perhaps one ought to relocate to Phangan