Philippines Girlfriend refused to travel for 14 days trip to Thailand

[flyingdoc]

Astonishing!

Quite an array of different options and slants to what seemed at first, to be a simple story! Caveat emptor again with air tickets from there!

[tropo]

junkofdavid2

I understand and I know what you saying.

She does not looks low class but as a normal lady from 26 years old.

The intention was a two weeks holiday to Thailand arranged by myself.

I have been to the Philippines 50 times of the last 15 years.

If you have a Thai GF you can travel with her to almost any country in Asia

or even outside Asia as long as she has a visa for the country.

Thai immigration is just checking her passport, ticket and visa if needed.

They dnt question what your Thai GF is gone in Bali, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan or Philippines.

That is the big difference between Philippines and other countries such as Thailand.

The fact that you've done so many trips to the Philippines makes them suspicious if they can see that from your passport or the computer. For all they know you're a pimp collecting ladies for work overseas.

Even the fact that she was to return after two weeks without you is highly suspect as you live in Thailand.

Last month I actually went to the Philippines to collect a friend of my wife's from the airport. Even that was touch and go.

They really value marriage in the Philippines. Older guys travelling with young single girls is going to be problematic.

If you can prove that you're in a real relationship with the girl and have been for a reasonable period of time you should not have any problems.

I would bet the girls you met were bargirls. The Immigration officers can see this a mile off. It's pretty obvious to them you're a whore-monger, with 2/3 trips to the Philippines a year. These immigration officers are not stupid.

It's interesting that this 25 year old bargirl already has a passport. Did she use it for prior travel? If so, that could also have presented a problem as she may have travelled abroad with other guys in the past.

(I don't believe your lady's "cousin killed in car accident story". She probably was otherwise engaged. As a regular visitor I'm surprised you fell for that story)

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[tropo]

Surely there are plenty of hot Thai women knocking around in Phuket.. can't see the point of importing one from the Philippines.

totster

I live in Thailand with my Filipino wife - wonders will never cease. I'm pretty happy about it too.

[tropo]

The girl(s) should take a 1 day course at CFO . There is a type of counseling done for the interest of your friend(s) , to make her aware off danger in

overseas countrys .

This counts really for every philippina leaving the philippines. This is also a requirement for getting married with a foreigner.

CFO is located at near south super hway and quirino ave .. close to LRT station Pedro Gill and Quirino.

It's only a requirement if you're getting married in the Philippines.

[tropo]

Normally these things are always resolved with a little cash under the table-especially in Phillipines-and of course the officials make trouble just for that purpose-Did you try that at all?.Cheers.

I'd like to see you try that on the airport immigration staff in the exit booths. You'd be arrested on the spot.

Yes, money can speed things up in the immigration offices when applying for extensions etc, but you'd have to be a lunatic to try that at the airport. Don't even think about trying this.

[Travel2003]

Not surprisingly this topic caused the conspiracy theorists (everyone will scam you) and the Trolls (Thai ladies Vs Pinay) to crawl out from under rocks, bridges, etc.

Back to topic.

The PI is threating the citizens a bit better than North-Korea does.

It is difficult to escape the country.

The citizens are being pressed for money from each and every official there is.

I have in the past flown in my Pinay girlfriend several times to Thailand.

She needed:

-Ticket (preferably paid by her self), or copy of ticket purchase/receipt (by me).

-Written invitation by me.

-I sent also signed copy of my passport.

-I sent copy of hotel booking.

-Proof of correspondence/ relation to the person she visited (pictures, e-mails, etc).

Talked to a friend a few days ago, and he confirmed this was still the case (recently).

One advice is,

if 2 separate interviews, NEVER try to tell anything else than the truth, since it is impossible for 2 people to have 100% same story if it is fiction.

[yannic]

jeroentak, if you have a work permit you can get your Filipino friend here in Thailand.

Prepare 2 copies each of your:

1. work permit

2. bank statement

3, passport xerox copy

4. Copies of plane tickets both the coming here and return to Philippines.

,

Go to Philippine embassy in Sukhumvit Road Soi 30(?) (but bear with the slowness of their services) and fill up the invitation letter form.

They will provide you a copy of all of all the requirements above with red ribbon seal.

You have to send these things to your friend but be sure that she will receive it before her flight so that she can bring it to show to the immigration officer.

no if working abroad you will be an OFW and therefore need to register with the POEA (philippine overseas employment administration), meaning one to two days of running around, getting papers, paying your OFW fees and getting your exit clearance. And of course you need to get a Visa from the Thai Embassy first. This need to be requested from the Thai Ministry which will send a reference number to the Thai Embassy in Makati, then the OFW needs to go there and get the visa. 2-5 days for this.

If leaving the country as OFW there will be no issue whatsoever. Also paying your fees as OFW included the Travel Tax. So OFW do not pay the 1600 Pesos travel tax at the airport.

CFO seminar is ONLY needed when getting married not for tourists and not for OFW.

Edited November 25, 2013 by yannic

[Shancloudy]

Just tell to your girlfriend be confident to answer all the question of immigration officer. Need to bring a valid i.d., show money and act like you're a smart woman infront of the officer. That's what I did during my first travel abroad alone.

Usually the question are:

1. What will you do in ______ ( country ).

I answered them obviously for a vacation what else I will do? ( be sarcastic ) haha

2. Are you sure you can travel alone?

I said yes, why not? I'm educated well I can speak and understand english. Is there any problem with that?

The last he said was: No, you can't go _______ ( country )

I said ok but make sure you will pay my plane ticket. And tell to the airlines that don't sell plane ticket anymore because the immigration will not allow them to travel.

That's what I did..

[tropo]

The slogan "More fun in The Philippines " in the Philippine embassy should be NO MORE FUND IN THE PHILIPPINES because it is corrupted by the government.

Philippine government cannot give work to their people and yet they prevent them from going out of the country accusing them of working abroad.

Bullshit to corrupt government officials and immigration officers!!!

So what if Filipino people go out in the Philippines to find a job abroad?

Why, can you give their needs? jobs?

You even make your countrymen poorer because of your rampant corruption and you never think of what is good to your countrymen!!!

by the way, I am a Filipino working here in Thailand for about 8 years now. I hate so much our government! I have no trust on them.

I think it is a good idea to have those courses for women (or men) going abroad, because many of them don't know what they are getting into. It wouldn't be a bad idea for Thailand, either. I have personally talked women out of getting into really bad situations (a few situations that had all the bad signs related to human trafficking--but the women were very naive). However, maybe the government has gone overboard now? It seems a shame to stop filipinos from going abroad to support their families and make use of their work ethic and english skills.

You need to put this into perspective. There's no problems for Filipinos to leave the Philippines to work overseas (and support their families) IF they have the correct visas and have completed the required paperwork.

Here we're talking about a young, single girl traveling overseas with no visa for a 2 week "vacation". We all know the purpose of this "vacation".

[tropo]

Not surprisingly this topic caused the conspiracy theorists (everyone will scam you) and the Trolls (Thai ladies Vs Pinay) to crawl out from under rocks, bridges, etc.

Back to topic.

The PI is threating the citizens a bit better than North-Korea does.

It is difficult to escape the country.

The citizens are being pressed for money from each and every official there is.

I have in the past flown in my Pinay girlfriend several times to Thailand.

She needed:

-Ticket (preferably paid by her self), or copy of ticket purchase/receipt (by me).

-Written invitation by me.

-I sent also signed copy of my passport.

-I sent copy of hotel booking.

-Proof of correspondence/ relation to the person she visited (pictures, e-mails, etc).

Talked to a friend a few days ago, and he confirmed this was still the case (recently).

One advice is,

if 2 separate interviews, NEVER try to tell anything else than the truth, since it is impossible for 2 people to have 100% same story if it is fiction.

Past success is no guarantee of future success. They are becoming more strict every year.There is no way my GF could have come to Thailand with me back in 2006 under current policy.

When I came up to the immigration booth last month the officer asked my "friend" questions in Tagalog after she'd questioned me in English. They are very tricky about it. If your story is nonsense, they'll soon know.

There chances of success with a casual sexual companion would be slim to none.

If I'd know the OP before he wasted his ticket money I would have advised against it.

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[tropo]

Just tell to your girlfriend be confident to answer all the question of immigration officer. Need to bring a valid i.d., show money and act like you're a smart woman infront of the officer. That's what I did during my first travel abroad alone.

Usually the question are:

1. What will you do in ______ ( country ).

I answered them obviously for a vacation what else I will do? ( be sarcastic ) haha

2. Are you sure you can travel alone?

I said yes, why not? I'm educated well I can speak and understand english. Is there any problem with that?

The last he said was: No, you can't go _______ ( country )

I said ok but make sure you will pay my plane ticket. And tell to the airlines that don't sell plane ticket anymore because the immigration will not allow them to travel.

That's what I did..

When did you do that?

[Travel2003]

Not surprisingly this topic caused the conspiracy theorists (everyone will scam you) and the Trolls (Thai ladies Vs Pinay) to crawl out from under rocks, bridges, etc.

Back to topic.

The PI is threating the citizens a bit better than North-Korea does.

It is difficult to escape the country.

The citizens are being pressed for money from each and every official there is.

I have in the past flown in my Pinay girlfriend several times to Thailand.

She needed:

-Ticket (preferably paid by her self), or copy of ticket purchase/receipt (by me).

-Written invitation by me.

-I sent also signed copy of my passport.

-I sent copy of hotel booking.

-Proof of correspondence/ relation to the person she visited (pictures, e-mails, etc).

Talked to a friend a few days ago, and he confirmed this was still the case (recently).

One advice is,

if 2 separate interviews, NEVER try to tell anything else than the truth, since it is impossible for 2 people to have 100% same story if it is fiction.

Past success is no guarantee of future success. They are becoming more strict each year.There is no way my GF could have come to Thailand with me back in 2006 under current policy.

When I came up to the immigration booth last month the officer asked my "friend" questions in Tagalog after she'd questioned me in English. They are very tricky about it. If your story is nonsense, they'll soon know.

There chances of success with a casual sexual companion would be slim to none.

If I'd know the OP before he wasted his ticket money I would have advised against it.

5 days ago.

Exactly as I described it.

Correct, if the story is nonsense, they will soon find out.

Past correspondence between the parts seems to be an important issue.

[tropo]

5 days ago.

Exactly as I described it.

Correct, if the story is nonsense, they will soon find out.

Past correspondence between the parts seems to be an important issue.

Exactly. They need to be convinced that the relationship is genuine. Most importantly they are concerned that the foreigner will take good care or them.

They asked my friend for photos of us together. We didn't have any, but we made it. The fact that I had arrived in the Philippines earlier that day must have convinced them I was genuine.

[marios]

This was happening in the past a lot. It is simply a question of money extortion. It was called 'escort'. You pay a fee and the girl passes on. The Filipinos have 11 million workers working abroad. Most ,if all of them, are considered second class in the countries of employment and most of them are suffering abuse and injustice. If the Philippine government decides to protect its citizens they should ban the export of the workforce. They do not, of course. The remittances in effect support the country. What bothers me, instead of the government protecting the goose by allowing them freedom of movement, tolerates instead such behaviour from the immigration police and imposes the exit fee. Any Filipino travelling abroad will remit money back to the country one way or another.

I think your case can only be attributed to bad luck. The wrong greedy officer happened to be there.

People complain about Thailand and the treatment they get from the police. Well, the Philippines are much worse. The foreigner as well as the local are fair game. I dislike the country.

[linne16]

Ok, im a filipina and i'm working here in Thailand, my brother went home to the Philippines but he's actually based in US with the rest of my family... He decided to visit me here in Thailand during his vacation in the Philippines, but he also got refused to enter this country... He was asked to show supporting papers and pocket money, and when he showed them that, they asked him for an invitation letter.. the following day, he booked another ticket, and he got through, no questions... point is, it's not just for women travelling with their farang bfs, or just women in general, it happens to everyone....

We Filipinos are not very sure about this law as well because it seems like it just depends on your luck... i also came here on tourist visa, (im sure i don't look hi-so when i passed through the immigration), but they didn't ask me anything, i found a job, i processed my non-b visa here, and i'm now happily living here for more than a year...

Edited November 25, 2013 by Rimmer
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[tropo]

This was happening in the past a lot. It is simply a question of money extortion. It was called 'escort'. You pay a fee and the girl passes on. The Filipinos have 11 million workers working abroad. Most ,if all of them, are considered second class in the countries of employment and most of them are suffering abuse and injustice. If the Philippine government decides to protect its citizens they should ban the export of the workforce. They do not, of course. The remittances in effect support the country. What bothers me, instead of the government protecting the goose by allowing them freedom of movement, tolerates instead such behaviour from the immigration police and imposes the exit fee. Any Filipino travelling abroad will remit money back to the country one way or another.

I think your case can only be attributed to bad luck. The wrong greedy officer happened to be there.

People complain about Thailand and the treatment they get from the police. Well, the Philippines are much worse. The foreigner as well as the local are fair game. I dislike the country.

Seriously? You think most of the 11 million (your estimate) overseas workers are being abused. They're actually considered superior workers overseas in many fields. Sure, some countries consider them second class (Arab countries, Hong Kong, Singapore), but this is not universal as you suggest it is.

This is simply a case of a bargirl invited to go overseas for a 2 week sexual vacation with a self proclaimed whore monger (with 50 visits to the Philippines to his credit). She doesn't have a visa and no proof of relationship. They actually do try to protect their citizens, and in particular young single girls, from exploitation overseas. This is a model that some other poor SE Asian nations could do well to follow.

If you have the correct visas along with job invitations and follow standard protocol, there's no problem.

This is not a case of government corruption. You will not succeed in a paying for a girl to leave - I'd love to see you try that. I'm certain that you would be arrested for attempting to bribe a government official and possibly charged for people trafficking. That could get you life in prison - no shit.,

Most of these officials take their job very seriously and get very angry if you try to suggest they are corrupt. This is the airport mate, not a back office down at the local immigration office.

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[tropo]

, but he also got refused to enter this country...

I take it you mean he was refused exit from the Philippines?

[Travel2003]

Regarding the OFWs.

The (international) company I work for has several 1000s Filipinos working for them, and looked upon an extremely valuable recourse.

They are the very backbone of the company, and are threated as the rest of us.

Anything else would be counter productive and simply bad for business.

[linne16]

, but he also got refused to enter this country...

I take it you mean he was refused exit from the Philippines?

well yeah, he was refused to leave the Philippines that time...

[marios]

This was happening in the past a lot. It is simply a question of money extortion. It was called 'escort'. You pay a fee and the girl passes on. The Filipinos have 11 million workers working abroad. Most ,if all of them, are considered second class in the countries of employment and most of them are suffering abuse and injustice. If the Philippine government decides to protect its citizens they should ban the export of the workforce. They do not, of course. The remittances in effect support the country. What bothers me, instead of the government protecting the goose by allowing them freedom of movement, tolerates instead such behaviour from the immigration police and imposes the exit fee. Any Filipino travelling abroad will remit money back to the country one way or another.

I think your case can only be attributed to bad luck. The wrong greedy officer happened to be there.

People complain about Thailand and the treatment they get from the police. Well, the Philippines are much worse. The foreigner as well as the local are fair game. I dislike the country.

Seriously? You think most of the 11 million (your estimate) overseas workers are being abused. They're actually considered superior workers overseas in many fields. Sure, some countries consider them second class (Arab countries, Hong Kong, Singapore), but this is not universal as you suggest it is.

This is simply a case of a bargirl invited to go overseas for a 2 week sexual vacation with a self proclaimed whore monger (with 50 visits to the Philippines to his credit). She doesn't have a visa and no proof of relationship. They actually do try to protect their citizens, and in particular young single girls, from exploitation overseas. This is a model that some other poor SE Asian nations could do well to follow.

If you have the correct visas along with job invitations and follow standard protocol, there's no problem.

This is not a case of government corruption. You will not succeed in a paying for a girl to leave - I'd love to see you try that. I'm certain that you would be arrested for attempting to bribe a government official and possibly charged for people trafficking. That could get you life in prison - no shit.,

Most of these officials take their job very seriously and get very angry if you try to suggest they are corrupt. This is the airport mate, not a back office down at the local immigration office.

The 11 million is not my estimate. It was stated by the Filipino Ambassador to the UAE in an interview with CNN. The Asean countries citizens are allowed 30 days in any other ASEAN country. The officer would have interviewed the gentleman and assess the situation himself. It was a holiday. Not necessarily a prostitution thing. I believe the overzealous official had an agenda other than protecting the virtues of the Filipinos. Maybe he wanted to push his way around. I think it was wrong and unfair. This is my opinion anyway. As for the fact that the Filipinos are superior workers that may be so sometimes, I do not dispute that. I know however that many Filipino doctors are working as orderlies in US hospitals because their doctor credentials do not much US standards.

Having said that I want to stress that Filipinos are outward, fun loving warm people and it is a joy to have them around. It is the hypocrisy of the officials which bothers me.

[Travel2003]

Hard to interpret maybe.

http://www.census.gov.ph/content/statistical-tables-overseas-filipino-workers-ofw-2012-0

2 mill +/-

Edited November 25, 2013 by Travel2003

[govoner]

having just flown out of cebu for a holiday with the gf i did some research on this topic. It seems they question every girl on their first trip.

Although we have lived together for two years i approached immigration with trepidation but with documentation. I had

1. As many pics as poss with family etc

2 letter from landlady ,showing tenancy

3 7000 peso in her purse to show self reliance

4 copies of airline ticket and hotel bookings

5 print out of her bank acct and letter from her employer

Even with all this i still had to sign a document guaranteeing her return to the Phils

Do not try to bribe any official at the airport

This trip no one got knocked back but a couple of girls traveling alone got the third degree .

It is a stressful time because time is ticking on , Even after getting the ok the girl has to go back through immigation to get stamped

[Shancloudy]

Just tell to your girlfriend be confident to answer all the question of immigration officer. Need to bring a valid i.d., show money and act like you're a smart woman infront of the officer. That's what I did during my first travel abroad alone.

Usually the question are:

1. What will you do in ______ ( country ).

I answered them obviously for a vacation what else I will do? ( be sarcastic ) haha

2. Are you sure you can travel alone?

I said yes, why not? I'm educated well I can speak and understand english. Is there any problem with that?

The last he said was: No, you can't go _______ ( country )

I said ok but make sure you will pay my plane ticket. And tell to the airlines that don't sell plane ticket anymore because the immigration will not allow them to travel.

That's what I did..

When did you do that?

Last 2008

[tropo]

Just tell to your girlfriend be confident to answer all the question of immigration officer. Need to bring a valid i.d., show money and act like you're a smart woman infront of the officer. That's what I did during my first travel abroad alone.

Usually the question are:

1. What will you do in ______ ( country ).

I answered them obviously for a vacation what else I will do? ( be sarcastic ) haha

2. Are you sure you can travel alone?

I said yes, why not? I'm educated well I can speak and understand english. Is there any problem with that?

The last he said was: No, you can't go _______ ( country )

I said ok but make sure you will pay my plane ticket. And tell to the airlines that don't sell plane ticket anymore because the immigration will not allow them to travel.

That's what I did..

When did you do that?

Last 2008

OK. They have become a lot stricter since then... especially with the new "people trafficking" laws. By comparison it was quite easy back then.

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[tropo]

having just flown out of cebu for a holiday with the gf i did some research on this topic. It seems they question every girl on their first trip.

Although we have lived together for two years i approached immigration with trepidation but with documentation. I had

1. As many pics as poss with family etc

2 letter from landlady ,showing tenancy

3 7000 peso in her purse to show self reliance

4 copies of airline ticket and hotel bookings

5 print out of her bank acct and letter from her employer

Even with all this i still had to sign a document guaranteeing her return to the Phils

Do not try to bribe any official at the airport

This trip no one got knocked back but a couple of girls traveling alone got the third degree .

It is a stressful time because time is ticking on , Even after getting the ok the girl has to go back through immigation to get stamped

They'll question them on every trip if there's no visa. Multiple trips just raises their suspicions.

I'm just glad that the drama is over for me. When you're married they treat you like royalty by comparison.

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[Rimmer]

Possible libellous post and replies removed

[smotherb]

Although no visa is required for a Philippine citizen, Philippine nationals who appear 'low-class' or even 'middle class' are questioned by Philippine immigration officials out of suspicion that they will work abroad illegally as house helpers, bar girls, or even teachers/tutors.

(I'm not putting down your girlfriend; and no use arguing whether she looks low class or not. As a westerner you cannot tell unless you've lived in the Philippines for a long period of time)

If the immigration official has reason to suspect that the person will try to find work abroad without going through the proper procedure, he/she can legally be offloaded from the plane.

Well, you may not be entirely wrong. Philippine immigration may feel Filipinos (Filipinas) are seeking employment,

but Philippine immigration law says a letter of invitation, affidavit of support, $500 in travel monies and a return ticket is needed for a 30 day visit to Thailand. It has more to do with money than being low or middle class. All of paper work can be avoided by proof of sufficient funds to live for an extended period of time. Use your imagination as to how sufficient monies can be proven.

If the OP still wants to see his Filipina, he needs to go to the Philippne Embassy in Bangkok and provide the letter of invitation and the affidavit of support--forms available on the Philippine Embassy website. The letter of invitation has to include his repationship to the Filipina. Fiancee may suffice as the relationship. The two forms, %500, and a return ticket must be held by the Filipina upon departure.

Edited November 25, 2013 by smotherb

[jeroentak]

Thank you for all your comments. Some response from my sight,

The fact that the Philippines Immigration law and officers are refusing
Philippines citizen to leave the country is not new and happens frequently.

The Philippines government thinks that it should protect its citizens for

the evil practices in other countries. It is all ready rather difficult to get a

passport in the Philippines and than on top of that can the Immigration officers

just decide that you are not allowed to leave the country. Maybe the goverment

is afraid that the whole population will migrate if they got the chance.

I am not bashing the Philippines government. I just want to make people aware of the law

and pratices in The Philippines which is causing trouble for its citizens and people like

me who meet someone who I like and invite to come for a holiday to Thailand or another country.

This law is very typical for The Philippines and can not be found in other countries and therefor

it is worth mentioning and making other people aware. So that money is not lost in airline tickets

which can not be used and people will not be sad and crying when they hear that they are not allowed to fly.

Yes there is a course by the CFO for Philippino ladies who are planning to get married

with a foreigner. They will try to brainwash these ladies and tell them most terrible stories

to disencourage these ladies to do so. With a CFO certificate, these ladies can travel without

to much hassle abroad. I did not send my girlfriend to this course because we did not plan to

marry at this stage. We want to get to know each other better and therefor we were planning a

holiday in Thailand. You can only take a Philippines lady abroad if u are engaged or married.

This is typical for the Philippines. A government telling the people how to live. Philippines is

a very Catholic country. However you will never seen so many underaged and young mothers around twenty

years old with babies in the world as in the Philippines

I have been visiting the Philippines the last ten years two to three times per year. I happen to have

foreign friends who live there. What is wrong with that ? One of the commentators called me a MONGER.

So people who vist the Philippines are MONGERS. Whatabout people who live in Thailand ?Or maybe

like me live in Thailand and visit The Philippines. Please save me these kind of disgusting remarks.

Yes , I live in Patong, Phuket. Many bars and girls around there. I am single. I have met a nice Philippines lady 26 years old,

which I invited for a two week holiday to Thailand. I was not looking for sex. I really liked the person I met. I was trying to make

her happy by inviting her for a holiday and show her around in Phuket. So the remarks why I dnt take a Thai girl are irrelevant.

When I called here and we spoke for a while she mentioned that the other lady which my friend and I met, her cousin

had died several months ago in a car accident. She was sad about that becasue they were best friends. She did not ask

me about money or anything. Why would she lie about the death of her cousin. I really dnbt understand that some of you think

that she is lieing about this. For what purpose. I happen to know indirectly two young persons in my home country who will

die very soon because of cancer. These things can happen. Why some of you think that people lie about this. They were not

asking any money for anything. Just bring me up to date with the tragedy in her life and in this case somebody I have met before.

[tropo]

One of the commentators called me a MONGER.

So people who vist the Philippines are MONGERS. Whatabout people who live in Thailand ?Or maybe

like me live in Thailand and visit The Philippines. Please save me these kind of disgusting remarks.

Guilty as charged!... that was me and I make no apologies for it. You visit the Philippines 2/3 times per year, you're single and you've made about 50 visits over 15 years.

I don't have anything against whore mongers, but I'm calling a spade a spade.

We can only go on what you write. You met her in April, hung out for awhile, then left and after 7 months you decided to call her when you went back to Philippines. You obviously had no interim contact with her as you didn't know about her "dead" friend until you called her.

Why would she say her friend was dead? Use your imagination. She's married to a Filipino or with another guy so uses that as an excuse to save the embarrassment of having to explain it - is one reason. You were with your friend who wanted to hook up with the "dead" girl and it was the easiest way out. It's extremely common for these bargirls to be married to Filipinos, you know. You want some more reasons? Maybe she's pregnant or just doesn't want to see your friend.

It also helped in getting some sympathy from you as you obviously believe her - and a quick vacation to Thailand, which unfortunately didn't work out.

Yeah, she could be dead, but I'll bet she's alive and well. With bargirls there's a common saying - "if their lips are moving - they're lying". Of course not only bargirls lie but you're better off assuming they're lying until you know otherwise. You should know all this as a veteran of the Philippines and Thailand.

Edited November 25, 2013 by tropo

[Tomtomtom69]

 

junkofdavid2

I understand and I know what you saying.

She does not looks low class but as a normal lady from 26 years old.

The intention was a two weeks holiday to Thailand arranged by myself.

I have been to the Philippines 50 times of the last 15 years.

If you have a Thai GF you can travel with her to almost any country in Asia

or even outside Asia as long as she has a visa for the country.

Thai immigration is just checking her passport, ticket and visa if needed.

They dnt question what your Thai GF is gone in Bali, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan or Philippines.

That is the big difference between Philippines and other countries such as Thailand.

 

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Believe me, ain't always so easy to travel with Thais, either. Had some aggravating experiences in other countries and even leaving Thailand. Usually it is fine when I shame them and tell them they are full of it (yeah, it has come down to me pulling the snob card on them...works every time). Other times, my wife just goes to Suvannaphum on her own and flies straight into where ever I am with no problem. I am not sure what sets them off at certain borders and certain dates, since we have had both, from it being a complete nightmare to it being nothing at all.

Not sure about the Philippines situation, though.

It's never a problem for Thai ladies to leave Thailand provided their documents are in order, whether they travel with a male "companion" or not. The Philippines examples sound completely bizarre to me, but that's because I know of no other countries where immigration officials act that way.

Well, sorry, you are wrong about that. I was told before by others and didn't believe it. I had to experience it to know. And I know our situation was not unique. Usually it comes down to the airlines, not necessarily the outgoing Thai immigration. We had airlines not believing that she would come back. It is a thing here, too, but it sounds like the PH might have gone a little berserk about it.

A foreigner is more likely to have an onward ticket requirement overlooked by the airlines when checking-in in Thailand than Thai nationals. This is quite normal and to be expected. However, a Thai national holding an onward or return air ticket (preferably a return ticket) shouldn't have any problems getting their boarding pass issued and getting on their plane.

Similarly in Vietnam: A Vietnamese friend of mine (a male passenger but same difference) was trying to buy a one-way ticket to BKK at the Lufthansa counter in HCMC and was only allowed to board after signing a waiver of responsibility document (I was present at the time). Meanwhile, since I'm from a rich country, on the very same night THAI didn't check my onward ticket (I didn't have one either). Indeed, only very rarely do airlines in the region request proof of onward travel out of Thailand of western travellers like me and in the rare cases they do, I kind of get offended. However, a verbal explanation is always enough to get them off my back (and they always print out my boarding pass before they ask me about onward travel). Of course, now that won't be necessary anymore as I am on a non-B but I'm referring to the past when I was mostly on visa-exempt stamps.

Edited November 25, 2013 by Tomtomtom69