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Urgent meeting for ruling Pheu Thai members today
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BANGKOK, Dec 6 – Thailand's ruling Pheu Thai Party is meeting specially today to plan the next move after an announcement by anti-government protesters to continue their demonstrations.

The party stood firm that the prime minister will neither resign nor dissolve the House as demanded by the protesters.

Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the government’s resignation could not resolve the country’s political conflicts but it would rather intensify disputes which have been created by only a group of people.

Referring to a statement by opposition chief whip Jurin Laksanawisit calling on the prime minister to make either decision, Mr Prompong said the Democrat MP was pressuring the premier in parallel with a similar action by protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban.

Mr Prompong said Mr Suthep’s call to implement Section 7 of the Constitution to form an interim government was not possible and that it was unlawful as the charter clearly states that the prime minster must be an elected MP.

Political scientists and legal experts objected to Mr Suthep’s proposal, he claimed.

He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

A people’s council exists under a dictatorial rule or communist system which is against constutional monarchy, said Mr Prompong, adding that the opposition Democrat Party should review its political role and that Mr Suthep should surrender to the authorities.

He said Mr Suthep’s announced “final battle” today (Dec 6) is aimed at creating a misleading and false hope and amassing the protesters for his benefit.

The Criminal Court last week issued its second arrest warrant for Mr Suthep on insurrection and several other charges. (MCOT online news)

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-- TNA 2013-12-06

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

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looks like the Dubai - Bangkok skype line is running hot again !! whistling.gif

lucky they have a contract where you have unlimited time....

But really it is a shame isn't it? An evil dictator needs an own satellite or at least a phone encryption that is made specially for him by the evil scientists.

Using Cheap Charlie Skype, which is also Farang technology really can't be.

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both options will be bloody. so, both of them are nothing to hope for. by the way, how may times in the last days there had been news of a 'final victory day', 'final battle', timeframe for a 'final whatever', etc.?

So you guys don't want to diffuse the situation.

So this ends in one or two ways. The Army moves in and kill protestors or they lead a coup. Personally, I'm hoping for the latter.

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It tragically seems like things will slowly ratchet up over the next few days and then blow up again. I see no option that does not involve bloodshed. Perhaps I lack vision.

I see two groups of corrupt leaders each calling in their voter troops to fight their power struggle by proxy.

Neither side can win or lose; and only their proxies will really suffer. What's next? Guerrilla warfare?

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It tragically seems like things will slowly ratchet up over the next few days and then blow up again. I see no option that does not involve bloodshed. Perhaps I lack vision.

I see two groups of corrupt leaders each calling in their voter troops to fight their power struggle by proxy.

Neither side can win or lose; and only their proxies will really suffer. What's next? Guerrilla warfare?

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It's not lack of vision, but conjunctivitis, colloquially known as "pink eye". Better stay off the nam phrik daa daeng!

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

The Shinewatra clan must be safely out of Thailand now with their mountain of suitcases so the pawns can ramp things up......

That reminds me. Did the 2 Shinawatra daughters arrive back in Thailand yet after their week "working" in England? Must have missed the news of their arrival back, or were 95% of the Thai Visa members absolutely correct when they summised the reason they left Thailand wasn't to work overseas, but to escape the escalation of violence that must have been known to be imminent by senior clan members.

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So you guys don't want to diffuse the situation.

So this ends in one or two ways. The Army moves in and kill protestors or they lead a coup. Personally, I'm hoping for the latter.

The easiest, most peaceful way of diffusing the situation is for the protestors to pack up and leave government buildings and go home. Then come back and win the next election.

All other options, from dissolving the parliament, killing protestors or staging a military coup will invariably lead to more conflict.

The protestors actually want to do that, but first it needs to get rid of the vote buying, media control and other weird things at the elections so someone who isn't super rich can have an equal chance to get elected.

It may not paint a pretty picture but there is seriously wealthy backers of both sides. Ones got power and the other wants it back

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Urgent meeting for ruling Pheu Thai members today

Let's see what's on the agenda...

1. How do we buy more votes

2. How can we create more corruptiion and white lying populist policies

3. How can we avoid the laws

4. How can we create new ways to brainwash the poor freeloaders into vote buying

5. Which one of the banned politicians do we put in charge of key positions

6. How can we drench our hands and put through the megaprojects with the objective to drain out money for ourselves

7. How can we punish critical thinking and freedom of expression and itensify RED Anarchy brainwashing propaganda?

This meeting agenda has been copied from the Dems meeting agenda that they have been using for 50 years. No originality in Thailand only copy

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

The Shinewatra clan must be safely out of Thailand now with their mountain of suitcases so the pawns can ramp things up......

That reminds me. Did the 2 Shinawatra daughters arrive back in Thailand yet after their week "working" in England? Must have missed the news of their arrival back, or were 95% of the Thai Visa members absolutely correct when they summised the reason they left Thailand wasn't to work overseas, but to escape the escalation of violence that must have been known to be imminent by senior clan members.

What do you and "95%" of TV members think is wrong with a father removing his children from exposure to violence which may be directed at them. Myself and "95%" of fathers on here find that the normal, perfect, parental thing to do.

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looks like the Dubai - Bangkok skype line is running hot again !! xwhistling.gif.pagespeed.ic.FVjgnKnWS1.p alt=whistling.gif width=19 height=18>

Stupid comment.

Please elaborate , perhaps in a more intellectual way , if possible coffee1.gif

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So you guys don't want to diffuse the situation.

So this ends in one or two ways. The Army moves in and kill protestors or they lead a coup. Personally, I'm hoping for the latter.

The easiest, most peaceful way of diffusing the situation is for the protestors to pack up and leave government buildings and go home. Then come back and win the next election.

All other options, from dissolving the parliament, killing protestors or staging a military coup will invariably lead to more conflict.

The protestors actually want to do that, but first it needs to get rid of the vote buying, media control and other weird things at the elections so someone who isn't super rich can have an equal chance to get elected.

It may not paint a pretty picture but there is seriously wealthy backers of both sides. Ones got power and the other wants it back

when you look at the past, almost all the time Thaksin and before Chavalit had the power. The real big ones, Singha, Beer Chang, CP, the car manufacturer always sponsor both sides (ruling parties and opposition), so they always win no matter who wins.

Only Abhisit tried to make a small tax for large land owner and there was a big agreement between all the wealthy that this can't happen.

So I don't see two wealthy groups battle for power. You have the biggest part of the money that don't care. You have the super rich Shinawatra clan and you have a few wealthy but not super rich Democrats. You have a lot middle class that donates to the Democrats and surely you have some wealthy that make some small donations (small by their standards),

But no super rich who want to come into power again.

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

The Shinewatra clan must be safely out of Thailand now with their mountain of suitcases so the pawns can ramp things up......

That reminds me. Did the 2 Shinawatra daughters arrive back in Thailand yet after their week "working" in England? Must have missed the news of their arrival back, or were 95% of the Thai Visa members absolutely correct when they summised the reason they left Thailand wasn't to work overseas, but to escape the escalation of violence that must have been known to be imminent by senior clan members.

Did they have a work permit ? We know how seriously Thais tke illegal workers or wait, did Auntie arrange a diplomatic passport ?

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

The Shinewatra clan must be safely out of Thailand now with their mountain of suitcases so the pawns can ramp things up......

That reminds me. Did the 2 Shinawatra daughters arrive back in Thailand yet after their week "working" in England? Must have missed the news of their arrival back, or were 95% of the Thai Visa members absolutely correct when they summised the reason they left Thailand wasn't to work overseas, but to escape the escalation of violence that must have been known to be imminent by senior clan members.

but they came back with less suitcases and than Somchai and his beautiful wife made the trip to London. So the clan is moving "suitcases".....

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h90

when you look at the past, almost all the time Thaksin and before Chavalit had the power. The real big ones, Singha, Beer Chang, CP, the car manufacturer always sponsor both sides (ruling parties and opposition), so they always win no matter who wins.

Only Abhisit tried to make a small tax for large land owner and there was a big agreement between all the wealthy that this can't happen.

So I don't see two wealthy groups battle for power. You have the biggest part of the money that don't care. You have the super rich Shinawatra clan and you have a few wealthy but not super rich Democrats. You have a lot middle class that donates to the Democrats and surely you have some wealthy that make some small donations (small by their standards),

But no super rich who want to come into power again.

Dont know where to start with this but here goes....

All wealthy people have a political allegiance... In Thailand that is unquestionably the Democrat party (for the old money and some new) the PTP has mainly "new wealth supporting it (Chang is new money...remember them not being allowed to list on the Thai Stock exchange so they listed in Singapore). Thaksin is officially 23rd on Forbes Thailands rich list. Which leads to the question who are the 22 wealthier than him. CP apart (who flip flops between allegiance - dependant on the government of the day...well he can afford to) they are old money, wealth gained by the Dems having no opposition for 50 years. They want to keep the staus quo and Thaksins popularity seriously threatens this happening.

It is a myth to think that all the middle classes vote and donate to the Dems in this climate. Many 'middle classes now vote PTP (as shown in the election result and the Bangkok Governer election, where the PTP candidate increased its vote by over 400,000)

The Dems have serious wealth backing them that dwarfs Thaksins wallet but sadly they canmt convert this wealth into votes for their chosen party.

I am only a 2 finger typist so please spare me having to type out the backers of the dems and alledgly the backers of this protest. Start with Thailands rich 50, copy and paste the people on their list and you will find their allegiance. Try numbers 3, 4 and 7 on the list for starters.

Armed with this free information I am trusting you will make more knowledgable post in the future

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Urgent meeting for ruling Pheu Thai members today

Let's see what's on the agenda...

1. How do we buy more votes

2. How can we create more corruptiion and white lying populist policies

3. How can we avoid the laws

4. How can we create new ways to brainwash the poor freeloaders into vote buying

5. Which one of the banned politicians do we put in charge of key positions

6. How can we drench our hands and put through the megaprojects with the objective to drain out money for ourselves

7. How can we punish critical thinking and freedom of expression and itensify RED Anarchy brainwashing propaganda?

That could be the UK with the exception of number 7.

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Urgent meeting for ruling Pheu Thai members today

There is only one ruling Pheu Thai member. Yingluck! Sit down. No one was talking about you. whistling.gif

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They're desperate...

Prompong Nopparit: He said the former Democrat MP and protesters will have to destroy the Constitution or stage a coup to pave the way for a proposed “people’s council” and interim prime minister.

Surapong Tovichakchaikul: Legal action will be taken against those supporting protesters including the operator of the anti-government BlueSky Channel, Mr Surapong warned, as well as the agency which has dispatched mobile toilets and water trucks to the rally sites.

Samart Kaewmeechai: also voiced concern that the on-going situation would lead to a civil war. He said if Suthep's opponents see that police could not handle protesters, they may take the laws into their own hands, leading to a civil war.

The Shinewatra clan must be safely out of Thailand now with their mountain of suitcases so the pawns can ramp things up......

That reminds me. Did the 2 Shinawatra daughters arrive back in Thailand yet after their week "working" in England? Must have missed the news of their arrival back, or were 95% of the Thai Visa members absolutely correct when they summised the reason they left Thailand wasn't to work overseas, but to escape the escalation of violence that must have been known to be imminent by senior clan members.

What do you and "95%" of TV members think is wrong with a father removing his children from exposure to violence which may be directed at them. Myself and "95%" of fathers on here find that the normal, perfect, parental thing to do.

But what is not normal is that this same father is single handedly trying to destroy nation in the name of personal power vendetta and wealth. IMO he knows what is coming down the pipe and IMO he is controlling it and is the one who will make it happen. This father who you say is doing right by his family is no stranger to knocking of a few minnows if it serves him

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h90

when you look at the past, almost all the time Thaksin and before Chavalit had the power. The real big ones, Singha, Beer Chang, CP, the car manufacturer always sponsor both sides (ruling parties and opposition), so they always win no matter who wins.

Only Abhisit tried to make a small tax for large land owner and there was a big agreement between all the wealthy that this can't happen.

So I don't see two wealthy groups battle for power. You have the biggest part of the money that don't care. You have the super rich Shinawatra clan and you have a few wealthy but not super rich Democrats. You have a lot middle class that donates to the Democrats and surely you have some wealthy that make some small donations (small by their standards),

But no super rich who want to come into power again.

Dont know where to start with this but here goes....

All wealthy people have a political allegiance... In Thailand that is unquestionably the Democrat party (for the old money and some new) the PTP has mainly "new wealth supporting it (Chang is new money...remember them not being allowed to list on the Thai Stock exchange so they listed in Singapore). Thaksin is officially 23rd on Forbes Thailands rich list. Which leads to the question who are the 22 wealthier than him. CP apart (who flip flops between allegiance - dependant on the government of the day...well he can afford to) they are old money, wealth gained by the Dems having no opposition for 50 years. They want to keep the staus quo and Thaksins popularity seriously threatens this happening.

It is a myth to think that all the middle classes vote and donate to the Dems in this climate. Many 'middle classes now vote PTP (as shown in the election result and the Bangkok Governer election, where the PTP candidate increased its vote by over 400,000)

The Dems have serious wealth backing them that dwarfs Thaksins wallet but sadly they canmt convert this wealth into votes for their chosen party.

I am only a 2 finger typist so please spare me having to type out the backers of the dems and alledgly the backers of this protest. Start with Thailands rich 50, copy and paste the people on their list and you will find their allegiance. Try numbers 3, 4 and 7 on the list for starters.

Armed with this free information I am trusting you will make more knowledgable post in the future

Thanksin is 10th on Forbes list...

Armed with this free information, you decide what :)

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I predict Thaksin will negotiate and sell out the Red Shirts and PTP as well.

Would he dare try this again??

If it comes down to his head on a spike, or theirs?

They will need more than one spike.

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