Crazy accident in my village

[giddyup]

About 6am two days ago was awoken by an almighty crash. Seems that one of the Thai residents here (drives like a maniac when he's sober) was coming home blind drunk and managed to demolish three house fences on the right hand side of the road. The first was just inside the security gates and then he proceeded to knock down two more (including the cement posts) a 100m further on. The road is actually around 30m wide with no cars parked either side, so how he managed to get back from whatever bar he was drinking at without hitting anything is beyond me. Needless to say his Fortuna was a writeoff, and his family quickly covered their <deleted> as far as insurance goes by nominating someone else (sober) as the driver. They quickly got the drunk to disappear and the story is now that the replacement driver swerved to avoid a dog. Funny that, as the only dogs in the village are behind fences in their owners houses.

[hansnl]

Question time.

Did you see, actually see, this figure driving the car?

If not, why you think the family nominated someone else.

Of course, it all seems a little visible, at least, who dunnit.

But, if the insurance accepts, and your damage is paid for, who cares.....for now.

[giddyup]

Question time.

Did you see, actually see, this figure driving the car?

If not, why you think the family nominated someone else.

Of course, it all seems a little visible, at least, who dunnit.

But, if the insurance accepts, and your damage is paid for, who cares.....for now.

No, I personally didn't see the driver, but my Thai partner did. She also saw his brother-in-law smacking the driver around the head and giving him a kicking, because it was his car the drunk was driving. You can't create that much damage and noise at 6am without attracting a few eye witnesses. Besides, the driver was hardly able to stand, much less run away. Who cares if the insurance pays? I do for one, it adds more to everyone's premiums who has car insurance, besides being downright fraud.

[Spoonman]

Wow considering some of the wrecks I have seen repaired he must have done a seriously massive amount of damage to the vehicle.

[giddyup]

Wow considering some of the wrecks I have seen repaired he must have done a seriously massive amount of damage to the vehicle.

The point I made about the Fortuna being a "write-off" is purely my opinion based on the amount of damage I saw. Of course the insurance company may feel the vehicle is salvageable, even if it does drive sideways after repairs.

[A1Str8]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

[stevenl]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

And you know that how?

[giddyup]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

Childish story or not, the insurance company would need to prove that it didn't happen. What's even more annoying is that this particular family are a bunch of arrogant pigs. They obviously have money as they all (must be at least 10 who live there) drive late model expensive cars (BMW's, Mercs, etc), but refuse to pay their maintenance and drive dangerously fast inside the village. It just gets up my nose that they can get away with the fraud, but life ain't fair, especially in Thailand.

[giddyup]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

And you know that how?

If you are suggesting that maybe he really did try to avoid a dog, I think you'd have a better job of convincing me that the earth is flat.

[stevenl]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

And you know that how?

If you are suggesting that maybe he really did try to avoid a dog, I think you'd have a better job of convincing me that the earth is flat.

I am not suggesting anything, just wondering how user A1Str8 (next time please pick and easier name to write) gets his information, was he on the scene, does he even know where the scene is?

Hence my question: and you know that how?

[giddyup]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

And you know that how?

If you are suggesting that maybe he really did try to avoid a dog, I think you'd have a better job of convincing me that the earth is flat.

I am not suggesting anything, just wondering how user A1Str8 (next time please pick and easier name to write) gets his information, was he on the scene, does he even know where the scene is?

Hence my question: and you know that how?

I just read his comment as a question to the veracity of the "avoiding a dog scenario". I should add that all this happened in less than a 100 metres from where the driver would have had to stop at the security box. The first fence he hit was less than 20 metres away from where he first stopped. He basically took off at a 45 degree angle, collided with fence 1, then continued down the wrong side of the road taking out fences 2 and 3.

[Spoonman]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

Childish story or not, the insurance company would need to prove that it didn't happen. What's even more annoying is that this particular family are a bunch of arrogant pigs. They obviously have money as they all (must be at least 10 who live there) drive late model expensive cars (BMW's, Mercs, etc), but refuse to pay their maintenance and drive dangerously fast inside the village. It just gets up my nose that they can get away with the fraud, but life ain't fair, especially in Thailand.

The insurance companies don't seem to care anyways. When my Ranger died and Ford proceeded to strip it to bits only to deny warranty claim we got the insurance company involved and they said they could do nothing as it had been pulled to bits. Their suggestion was to put the vehicle back together, take it home and wait till the next time my soi flooded and then call them.

[stevenl]

And you know that how?

If you are suggesting that maybe he really did try to avoid a dog, I think you'd have a better job of convincing me that the earth is flat.

I am not suggesting anything, just wondering how user A1Str8 (next time please pick and easier name to write) gets his information, was he on the scene, does he even know where the scene is?

Hence my question: and you know that how?

I just read his comment as a question to the veracity of the "avoiding a dog scenario". I should add that all this happened in less than a 100 metres from where the driver would have had to stop at the security box. The first fence he hit was less than 20 metres away from where he first stopped. He basically took off at a 45 degree angle, collided with fence 1, then continued down the wrong side of the road taking out fences 2 and 3.

Thanks for the further explanation.

I did not read his post the way you did, but people interpret information differently.

[A1Str8]

I know for sure that the fag in the car didn't try to avoid the dog because the OP stated, that they are all arrogant pigs. An arrogant pig only cares about himself and would never try to avoid hitting anything.

[eaustev]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

The requirement for "common sense" was mentioned. This renders everything else null and void!!

[giddyup]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

Childish story or not, the insurance company would need to prove that it didn't happen. What's even more annoying is that this particular family are a bunch of arrogant pigs. They obviously have money as they all (must be at least 10 who live there) drive late model expensive cars (BMW's, Mercs, etc), but refuse to pay their maintenance and drive dangerously fast inside the village. It just gets up my nose that they can get away with the fraud, but life ain't fair, especially in Thailand.

The insurance companies don't seem to care anyways. When my Ranger died and Ford proceeded to strip it to bits only to deny warranty claim we got the insurance company involved and they said they could do nothing as it had been pulled to bits. Their suggestion was to put the vehicle back together, take it home and wait till the next time my soi flooded and then call them.

I'm pretty sure the insurance company would care to know that the real driver was legless and that the family substituted a sober "driver". I imagine that the accident is going to set them back quite a few thousand baht for the car and also all the fences.

[giddyup]

I know for sure that the fag in the car didn't try to avoid the dog because the OP stated, that they are all arrogant pigs. An arrogant pig only cares about himself and would never try to avoid hitting anything.

I doubt if the drunk driver would have seen an elephant in the road, let alone a dog.

[hotrod4098]

having lived in a village for 4 years .seen many dog flat packed by cars.. thais do not swerve to hit a dog.

they just run it over and carry on..

[Spoonman]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

Childish story or not, the insurance company would need to prove that it didn't happen. What's even more annoying is that this particular family are a bunch of arrogant pigs. They obviously have money as they all (must be at least 10 who live there) drive late model expensive cars (BMW's, Mercs, etc), but refuse to pay their maintenance and drive dangerously fast inside the village. It just gets up my nose that they can get away with the fraud, but life ain't fair, especially in Thailand.

The insurance companies don't seem to care anyways. When my Ranger died and Ford proceeded to strip it to bits only to deny warranty claim we got the insurance company involved and they said they could do nothing as it had been pulled to bits. Their suggestion was to put the vehicle back together, take it home and wait till the next time my soi flooded and then call them.

I'm pretty sure the insurance company would care to know that the real driver was legless and that the family substituted a sober "driver". I imagine that the accident is going to set them back quite a few thousand baht for the car and also all the fences.

Yeah you keep saying the driver was legless so I assume there is evidence, what does the police report say ?

[giddyup]

Spoonman

I already said that his family substituted a sober driver. No reason to do that unless he was drunk, and smashing into three fences on the wrong side of the road and his brother-in-law giving him some serious slaps and kicks might indicate that he was pissed. I don't know how much proof you need. Obviously the drunk didn't hang around until the police arrived. How would I have access to a police report and how would I read it? I don't read Thai.

[Spoonman]

Right, so there is no proof who was driving or their state of sobriety.

[giddyup]

Right, so there is no proof who was driving or their state of sobriety.

Of course there is proof, about 6 eye witnesses, but I guess none are going to stick their neck out and tell the insurance company.

[Jerry Cornelius]

And who the hell is going to believe that typical childish Thai story about trying to avoid a dog. All it takes is some checking at the scene and common sense and its clear that it wasn't because of a dog.

Perhaps, after questioning all the dogs in the Soi, a typical Thai cop would believe that typical Thai story from a typical Thai driver.

Jerry

[Bikkii]

Question time.

Did you see, actually see, this figure driving the car?

If not, why you think the family nominated someone else.

Of course, it all seems a little visible, at least, who dunnit.

But, if the insurance accepts, and your damage is paid for, who cares.....for now.

No, I personally didn't see the driver, but my Thai partner did. She also saw his brother-in-law smacking the driver around the head and giving him a kicking, because it was his car the drunk was driving. You can't create that much damage and noise at 6am without attracting a few eye witnesses. Besides, the driver was hardly able to stand, much less run away. Who cares if the insurance pays? I do for one, it adds more to everyone's premiums who has car insurance, besides being downright fraud.

And this is any different to other countries?

[giddyup]

Question time.

Did you see, actually see, this figure driving the car?

If not, why you think the family nominated someone else.

Of course, it all seems a little visible, at least, who dunnit.

But, if the insurance accepts, and your damage is paid for, who cares.....for now.

No, I personally didn't see the driver, but my Thai partner did. She also saw his brother-in-law smacking the driver around the head and giving him a kicking, because it was his car the drunk was driving. You can't create that much damage and noise at 6am without attracting a few eye witnesses. Besides, the driver was hardly able to stand, much less run away. Who cares if the insurance pays? I do for one, it adds more to everyone's premiums who has car insurance, besides being downright fraud.

And this is any different to other countries?

In most western countries the eye witnesses would tell the police and insurance company who was driving. In Thailand, if the driver or his family has "power", ie big money, witnesses are afraid to step forward. I had a bad accident in Australia where a young speeding driver lost control and veered onto my side of the road and collided with my car. At least 5 other motorists stopped and gave statements to the police as to what had happened.

[stevenl]

No, I personally didn't see the driver, but my Thai partner did. She also saw his brother-in-law smacking the driver around the head and giving him a kicking, because it was his car the drunk was driving. You can't create that much damage and noise at 6am without attracting a few eye witnesses. Besides, the driver was hardly able to stand, much less run away. Who cares if the insurance pays? I do for one, it adds more to everyone's premiums who has car insurance, besides being downright fraud.

And this is any different to other countries?

In most western countries the eye witnesses would tell the police and insurance company who was driving. In Thailand, if the driver or his family has "power", ie big money, witnesses are afraid to step forward. I had a bad accident in Australia where a young speeding driver lost control and veered onto my side of the road and collided with my car. At least 5 other motorists stopped and gave statements to the police as to what had happened.

This example has no bearing on the accident in the OP, unless the driver who collided with you had "power", ie big money.

[IMHO]

Right, so there is no proof who was driving or their state of sobriety.

Of course there is proof, about 6 eye witnesses, but I guess none are going to stick their neck out and tell the insurance company.

If you're still sitting on the fence about this, let me help a bit with Thai culture: Keep your mouth shut

What purpose could it possibly serve you to have these people out of pocket, potentially arrested, and your mortal enemies?

Note that witness protection for foreigners in Thailand is often also called deportation

[giddyup]

Right, so there is no proof who was driving or their state of sobriety.

Of course there is proof, about 6 eye witnesses, but I guess none are going to stick their neck out and tell the insurance company.

If you're still sitting on the fence about this, let me help a bit with Thai culture: Keep your mouth shut

What purpose could it possibly serve you to have these people out of pocket, potentially arrested, and your mortal enemies?

Note that witness protection for foreigners in Thailand is often also called deportation

No way was I going to put my nose in, people have been killed in Thailand for a lot less.

[giddyup]

No, I personally didn't see the driver, but my Thai partner did. She also saw his brother-in-law smacking the driver around the head and giving him a kicking, because it was his car the drunk was driving. You can't create that much damage and noise at 6am without attracting a few eye witnesses. Besides, the driver was hardly able to stand, much less run away. Who cares if the insurance pays? I do for one, it adds more to everyone's premiums who has car insurance, besides being downright fraud.

And this is any different to other countries?

In most western countries the eye witnesses would tell the police and insurance company who was driving. In Thailand, if the driver or his family has "power", ie big money, witnesses are afraid to step forward. I had a bad accident in Australia where a young speeding driver lost control and veered onto my side of the road and collided with my car. At least 5 other motorists stopped and gave statements to the police as to what had happened.

This example has no bearing on the accident in the OP, unless the driver who collided with you had "power", ie big money.

My point was that in the West witnesses wouldn't care or even know if the driver or his family had money or not. Here the money influences everything. Can't make it clearer than that.

[hotrod4098]

i have a ford...value..600000...they only pay out about 75% of the car value...if its on the drip...you get nothing...

i owe 600000..its insured for 450000..so if i wrap it..total it...i have to find 150000

you dont get 100% loss i think...so drive careful