Yingluck tearfully insists to stay on as caretaker PM

[brewsterbudgen]

She should resign totally, and not even seek re-election. Disgusting puppet.

Seeking re-election is the top of shameless....

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Why should she NOT seek re-election?

She's incompetent to begin with...

As if that stopped G.W. Bush, Obama, Blair or any other politician!

Say what you like, she's about the best of a bad bunch and certainly preferable to someone like Abbhisit.

[Swiss1960]

She should resign totally, and not even seek re-election. Disgusting puppet.

Seeking re-election is the top of shameless....

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Why should she NOT seek re-election?

She's incompetent to begin with...

Well, you can find a lot of democracies with incompetent prime ministers... BUT...

if the electorate still gives her a majority of the votes, knowing about the incompetence, accepting money to vote for her and if the opposition parties can not convince the electorate / the voters to change their mine...

then Thailand gets her again as PM and then they deserve what the voted for... that is democracy

[CockneyGit]

She should resign totally, and not even seek re-election. Disgusting puppet.

Seeking re-election is the top of shameless....

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Why should she NOT seek re-election?

She's incompetent to begin with...

If the Thai people agree she's incompetent then they won't vote for her. That's democracy my friend!

[fab4]

Strange Yingluck is being condemned...when the real perpetrators are suthep and the democrats...have you not read what suthep and his mob demand...

45 million registered voters, 16 million vote for Yingluck and the PTP and yet 120,000 people say they know best - yes, that sounds democratic to me.

Suthep keep on walkin'

[Nibbles48]

She should resign totally, and not even seek re-election. Disgusting puppet.

The world is watching, future investment and the growth of the country may well depend on the next move, She should be permitted to stay on as the caretaker, But not the 312 puppets who supported the changing of the charter, they should be removed with immediate effect.

The investors will return in their droves if Yingluk stepped down too. The only reason she is still there is because it is her brother clinging to power through her, and that is what is keeping the country unstable.

All 312, and HER.

[Arkady]

Nice call fixing the election for 2 February during Chinese New Year.

[Swiss1960]

She should resign totally, and not even seek re-election. Disgusting puppet.

Seeking re-election is the top of shameless....

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Her family has divided the nation through their disgusting abuse of power. If she or another family member stands gain the protests will continue.

The country can't move forward and people will continue to die until they leave. If they had a shred of interest in the country's welfare, leave they would.

Getting elected is not a license to behave like a pig in a trough.

Did the "democrats" not abuse power once they were installed by the Army coup?

Could the country move forward if the majority of the voters don't feel represented in a forcefully installed new government, what ever you call it?

Getting put in power through a coup is no licence at all

[Spare]

I hate to see a big black guy bully a small white girl.

[webfact]

RT @tulsathit: Thai Rath: Yingluck has had tears in her eyes 5 times in public since becoming PM.

[bobdown1]

I think your biased one way. doesnt matter about suthep or any ordinary common thai citizen. u either want democracy or you dont. the population of 65 million people have a say in this. not 200,000 following suthep. Elections are the way. If the democrats had policies that encourage a bigger swing towards them then they would be government. Lets consider all parties were vote buying in the last election.

Thais will ultimately cry murder if they return to a dictatorship. Voters numbers count in a democracy

I am sick of the pro-TS here keep only pointing at Suthep. What if today the person is not Suthep who want to overthrow the TS regime? What if he is only a Thai common citizen? What have you got to say?? After questions about the corruptions, problems and responsibilties,trying to above the law. Doesn't YL as the elected PM has any role to play?? SHe need not give any answer??? Dodging here and there. She HERSELF should have feel bloody shamed and volunteer to quit her PM position.

Some people may say whoever in-charge ,corruption is still around.

No change, means thing is done. Forever in TS regime, corrupted, citizens having hard life.

Try to change, may have chances to have a new corrupted free nation. It is very hard but slowly start better than no start.

I personally believe after this time protest, Suthep himself will aware that power is still belong to the Thai people and they will unite and come out together to kick your ass out if you are doing harm to their country and their beloved Supreme leader (i do not mean Suthep). Suthep is not a dumbass either. He will not want to become same like TS, hated by so many own Thai fellow people. After this Suthep will take the corruption seriously (I personally believe). You may call me naive.

NO change, everything same same

Try change, may have something no same.

Why not give a change?

Cheers~

[waza]

Strange Yingluck is being condemned...when the real perpetrators are suthep and the democrats...have you not read what suthep and his mob demand...

45 million registered voters, 16 million vote for Yingluck and the PTP and yet 120,000 people say they know best - yes, that sounds democratic to me.

Suthep keep on walkin'

Quite obviously Yingluck and the whole PTP government doesn't agree with you Fabby because she dissolved the parliament, it was all fair it was all democratic and it was all voluntary.

[terryp]

the amount of good Thais that have been damaged by the corruption ot PT and Thaksin is massive ...and she crys ...TOUGH She still has BILLIONS in the bank so I think she will get over it pretty quickly.

[Meadowlark]

.....even set foot on Thai soil...what a joke...isn't she always somewhere in the clouds anyway!

[Nibbles48]

Seeking re-election is the top of shameless....

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Her family has divided the nation through their disgusting abuse of power. If she or another family member stands gain the protests will continue.

The country can't move forward and people will continue to die until they leave. If they had a shred of interest in the country's welfare, leave they would.

Getting elected is not a license to behave like a pig in a trough.

Did the "democrats" not abuse power once they were installed by the Army coup?

Could the country move forward if the majority of the voters don't feel represented in a forcefully installed new government, what ever you call it?

Getting put in power through a coup is no licence at all

Nope... I don't think they did abuse their power. can you give us specific incidents?

I am sure you mean abuse of power at least slightly in comparison with the huge abuses of power from This Thaksin government.

Be very interesting for someone from your side of the fence to highlight how bad the Dems were.

Please do not bother using the same old BS about robbing the poor to pay the rich, unless of course you can go into explicit details as to how they have done this.... It will be a first time explanation, because nobody else has actually been able to explain that same old rubbish with any details at all.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Nibbles48

[bigbamboo]

She says her brother will stay out of Thai politics for the good of the country. Fair enough, people might be prepared to accept that providing he doesn't insist on his family being in charge of the Prime Minister's office, the Defence Ministry and the Foreign Ministry.

If he does then nothing has changed. He's not staying out of politics he's just staying out of the country.

[Swiss1960]

the amount of good Thais that have been damaged by the corruption ot PT and Thaksin is massive ...and she crys ...TOUGH She still has BILLIONS in the bank so I think she will get over it pretty quickly.

if their would be such a "massive amount of good Thais" that have been affected, they surely would not vote for PM Yingluck again, right? So why do Suthep and all the other democrats fear the re-elections'

Or do you want to point out that their is en even bigger amount of "bad" Thais - and even more imply that all Thai who vote for Yingluck are "bad Thais"???

[JRSoul]

Why should she NOT seek re-election?

She's incompetent to begin with...

If the Thai people agree she's incompetent then they won't vote for her. That's democracy my friend!

Not so! If she offers enough electoral bribes, the venal idiots well aware she is incompetent may still vote for her. one of the requirements of a real democracy is an educated and informed populace. That is sadly lacking here, and the party that has been in power for so many years has done SFA to change that situation; and why should they, it suits them.

What will have this time? A ton of rotten rice for every PTP voter, double the minimum wage and watch inflation spiral, rice subsidies at B30,000/ton, more tablets?

[Sunderland]

If the Thai people agree she's incompetent then they won't vote for her. That's democracy my friend!

They surely have to understand the meaning of incompetent before they can agree or disagree on whether she is incompetent, don't they?

[Swiss1960]

Why should she NOT seek re-election? What is wrong about that? If she can get a majority of votes - whether bought or not - it is then the obvious choice of the majority of the Thai voters to say "we don't care about being ripped off, we don't care about having a corrupt government, we don't care about her brother being a criminal on the run".

The problem is purely with the opposition parties who are unable to convince voters that they would be better off with voting for them.

Her family has divided the nation through their disgusting abuse of power. If she or another family member stands gain the protests will continue.

The country can't move forward and people will continue to die until they leave. If they had a shred of interest in the country's welfare, leave they would.

Getting elected is not a license to behave like a pig in a trough.

Did the "democrats" not abuse power once they were installed by the Army coup?

Could the country move forward if the majority of the voters don't feel represented in a forcefully installed new government, what ever you call it?

Getting put in power through a coup is no licence at all

Nope... I don't think they did abuse their power. can you give us specific incidents?

I am sure you mean abuse of power at least slightly in comparison with the huge abuses of power from This Thaksin government.

Be very interesting for someone from your side of the fence to highlight how bad the Dems were.

Please do not bother using the same old BS about robbing the poor to pay the rich, unless of course you can go into explicit details as to how they have done this.... It will be a first time explanation, because nobody else has actually been able to explain that same old rubbish with any details at all.

First, if I could vote, I would vote against Yingluck's party

Second, I am a democrat who accepts the vote of the majority

Third, the "Dems" are not democrats since they have never led a democratically elected government within the last 20 years

Fourth, "Dems" who want to install a non-elected "peoples council" are not democrats

So while I am on the same side of the fence as you are, I miss to see any democrats in the so-called Democratic party of Thailand...

[SaamBaht]

The country can't move forward and people will continue to die until they leave. If they had a shred of interest in the country's welfare, leave they would.

That's right! There were never any coups or corruption before the big, bad Shin family stepped into the pictures. It might be time to point out that Suthep and his cronies just want a bigger share of the thieving.

[Tarric]

To be completely honest I don't really see how Suthep or one of his allies is in anyway a desirable as Thailand's political leader. It would take Thailand back decades and make the country look like an absolute joke, even Burma will be laughing as Thailand's twin evils or corruption and greed destroy the nations prosperity while the wonderful people of this great nation suffer for the political ambitions of the elite on both sides.

I am no fan of Yingluck or as I like to call her "Thaksin lite", however for better or worse she is the democratically (as democractic as Thailand can be in its current state) elected leader of the nation. The protesters have every right to push for new elections and to punish the PTP by not giving them their vote and encouraging others to do the same.

Suthep is taking this country to the brink and I fear only the Army can stop the potential bloodshed through a military coup. If Suthep keeps pushing its only a matter of time until the red shirts hit the streets in even greater numbers than Suthep could ever produce. I think it is almost universally accepted that some of Thailands populace has been brainwashed by the Thaksin political machine and in my opinion it is foolish to think these people and others won't fight Suthep to the bloody and bitter end.

[Thailand]

Strange Yingluck is being condemned...when the real perpetrators are suthep and the democrats...have you not read what suthep and his mob demand...

Suthep and crew are doing their utmost to ensure that there is real violence but so far they have not got their wish to any extent. Now building semi permanent structures to further antagonize.

An Army intervention is probably the only way his Dems ( Sorry, ordinary people now-what will they do for a living?) may have some sort of unelected power the ridiculous "peoples council" should be laughed out by every sane person if there are any left.

[newcomer71]

Did the "democrats" not abuse power once they were installed by the Army coup?

Could the country move forward if the majority of the voters don't feel represented in a forcefully installed new government, what ever you call it?

Getting put in power through a coup is no licence at all

Nope... I don't think they did abuse their power. can you give us specific incidents?

I am sure you mean abuse of power at least slightly in comparison with the huge abuses of power from This Thaksin government.

Be very interesting for someone from your side of the fence to highlight how bad the Dems were.

Please do not bother using the same old BS about robbing the poor to pay the rich, unless of course you can go into explicit details as to how they have done this.... It will be a first time explanation, because nobody else has actually been able to explain that same old rubbish with any details at all.

Something for you to read:

http://asiancorrespondent.com/49900/thailands-palm-oil-crisis-mr-s-strikes-again/

And no, it's not a race where who stolen less will win. If we need to clean this country we need someone that is not prone to STEAL!

No Shins, no Suthep, no other corrupt politicians, no other puppets.

P.s.: it would be so easy to accept both sides are so disgustingly corrupted and both sides just wants to appear as angels...

[Nibbles48]

the amount of good Thais that have been damaged by the corruption ot PT and Thaksin is massive ...and she crys ...TOUGH She still has BILLIONS in the bank so I think she will get over it pretty quickly.

if their would be such a "massive amount of good Thais" that have been affected, they surely would not vote for PM Yingluck again, right? So why do Suthep and all the other democrats fear the re-elections'

Or do you want to point out that their is en even bigger amount of "bad" Thais - and even more imply that all Thai who vote for Yingluck are "bad Thais"???

They don't fear the elections. This is all about reform to remove Thaksin corruption and interference. This is also about a complete overhaul to bring fair elections for the first time where no money is used to buy the vote, and an end to populist policies aimed at getting the northern village vote at the cost of the national economy.

Also making the constitution less vulnerable to misinterpretation and manipulation by a single majority party who have only their own dynastic interests at heart.

If I was leader of the opposition who had a long history of failing in elections due to millions of vote being corruptly bought away from my party, then I would not want to continue with that 'so called' brand of democracy.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Nibbles48

[JRSoul]

45 million registered voters, 16 million vote for Yingluck and the PTP and yet 120,000 people say they know best - yes, that sounds democratic to me.

Suthep keep on walkin'

Red counting systems are amazing. Every time an anti-Thaksin number is quoted it is reduced further from the lowest number cited ignoring much higher estimates; and every red count grows exponentially from the unbelievable original.

[DocN]

I have a few questions.

How many crimes can you actually pin on her? Being an incompetent, installed PM is not a crime!

So we all agree that Thaksin broke laws and others profitted from him- can you seriously condemn every single family-member and tell them to leave the country? On what base?

We all know, there is vote buying and corruption involved in the elections and we all know (even if some still deny that) that it is done on either side. But what do you actually say to an Isan- farmer (who may or may not have sold his vote) about why his voice will never be heard and his vote does not count for sh1t? (Voted for TRT...coup...voted for Samak- party gets dissolved, voting for Somchai- PAD occupies airports, voted for PTP- mass protests...and with all of that, he only hears, that he is too stupid to vote.

I guess, to say that I am not pro- Thaksin doesn't make any sense, as anyone asking anything of the Democrat- followers, that might be controversial is per se pro- Thaksin...but I am really interested!

Did you hear anything from Suthep, that sounds like a plan? Or isn't it rather a lot of white noise?

And since we are mainly farang here: you have heard of his stance on farangs, haven't you?!

...just curious...

[Morakot]

Pictures or video of tears or it did not happen!

Did it really happen?

[Katipo]

Headline should read: 'Yingluk tearfully clings to power on her brother's behalf'.

If they really wanted peace and not power, they would bow out now. We all know that ain't going to happen. Sadly, more ordinary Thai's will probably lose their lives before the scourge that are the Shinawat's is finally wiped from this land.

[Siripon]

If we accept the logic that Pheua Thai voters knew they were getting a puppet, as the slogan went' Thaksin thinks, Pheua Thai does', then they and Yingluck have to accept criticism that her position is humiliating and demeaning for Thais. Nobody wants to have their national leader ridiculed as a puppet even if they win an election. Doesn't Yingluk remember the hatred in Bangkok for Thaksin just a few years ago?

But she kept maintaining she was in charge, in spite of ministers openly talking about visiting Thaksin for consultations all the time.

If she was really in charge, would she have allowed a highly risky bill like the amnesty bill to be tabled? Absolutely not.

If she stands again and wins, the accusations of being a puppet will remain.The middle class and an increasing number of the working class will continue to hate her, or more to the point, her and her elder brother and sister.( Somchai the brother-in-law is too dull to care about and Oak is just a boy).

The Shinawats have become a burden for Pheua Thai. But after 12 years of being treated as mere junior employees by Thaksin, can they break out of their own mental prison. Can they free themselves or have these long years sapped all their energy and self esteem, leaving them craving for the safety of the jail?

[Thailand]

the amount of good Thais that have been damaged by the corruption ot PT and Thaksin is massive ...and she crys ...TOUGH She still has BILLIONS in the bank so I think she will get over it pretty quickly.

if their would be such a "massive amount of good Thais" that have been affected, they surely would not vote for PM Yingluck again, right? So why do Suthep and all the other democrats fear the re-elections'

Or do you want to point out that their is en even bigger amount of "bad" Thais - and even more imply that all Thai who vote for Yingluck are "bad Thais"???

They don't fear the elections. This is all about reform to remove Thaksin corruption and interference. This is also about a complete overhaul to bring fair elections for the first time where no money is used to buy the vote, and an end to populist policies aimed at getting the northern village vote at the cost of the national economy.

Also making the constitution less vulnerable to misinterpretation and manipulation by a single majority party who have only their own dynastic interests at heart.

If I was leader of the opposition who had a long history of failing in elections due to millions of vote being corruptly bought away from my party, then I would not want to continue with that 'so called' brand of democracy.