What is this Tax?

[samran]

tax is call theft at the point of a gun, and the threat to throw u in a cage

its also a monopoly on a service or the production of a product

two coffee shops = lower prices and higher quality due to competition

if there is only 1 coffee shop which is run by the govt and u will be in a 6 month que and u will pay through the teeth by inglation and higher taxes

Buy locally and you don't have to pay it.

Except that it's effectively already included in the price if you live in Thailand and are behind a tariff wall.

There is no import duty on products that are manufactured locally, but I'm sure you already know that.

Economics 101. No incentive for local producers to undercut an CIF imported good. They'll price upto 1 baht less than the import price. They are stupid if they don't.

[samran]

Double post

Edited January 5, 2014 by samran

[mogandave]

There is no import duty on products that are manufactured locally, but I'm sure you already know that.

Economics 101. No incentive for local producers to undercut an CIF imported good. They'll price upto 1 baht less than the import price. They are stupid if they don't.

So a guitar that is made in Thailand is marked up the price of a guitar imported from the US?

[mogandave]

Marked up to within 1 baht I mean.

[samran]

There is no import duty on products that are manufactured locally, but I'm sure you already know that.

Economics 101. No incentive for local producers to undercut an CIF imported good. They'll price upto 1 baht less than the import price. They are stupid if they don't.

So a guitar that is made in Thailand is marked up the price of a guitar imported from the US?

If we are talking like for like. Second hand car market is a classic example. Edited January 5, 2014 by samran

[mogandave]

So a guitar that is made in Thailand is marked up the price of a guitar imported from the US?

If we are talking like for like. Second hand car market is a classic example.

While I am often wrong, as far as I know, no one manufactures used cars in Thailand. Do you have an example?

[p_brownstone]

Economics 101. No incentive for local producers to undercut an CIF imported good. They'll price upto 1 baht less than the import price. They are stupid if they don't.

Well, I would not say just a 1 Baht Price differential .

However if I know an Imported item Retails here at Baht 10,000.- and I can manufacture it locally at a Cost of Baht 6,000.- I'd be a complete fool to sell it at Retail for Baht 7,800.- ( a small 30% Margin). I'd sell at Baht 9,500.- as a minimum.

Patrick

Edited January 5, 2014 by p_brownstone

[mogandave]

Economics 101. No incentive for local producers to undercut an CIF imported good. They'll price upto 1 baht less than the import price. They are stupid if they don't.

Well, I would not say just a 1 Baht Markup .

However if I know an Imported item Retails here at Baht 10,000.- and I can manufacture it locally at a Cost of Baht 6,000.- I'd be a complete fool to sell it at Retail for Baht 7,800.- ( a small 30% Margin). I'd sell at Baht 9,500.- as a minimum.

Patrick

Except that when looking at only a 5% discount, most people would generally rather buy the name brand imported item.

[NoshowJones]

Occasionally if something is sent via ordinary Mail you will be assessed for Import Duty and VAT - but 95% of the time the item will be delivered to your door Tax Free by your usual Postman.

If the package IS stopped by Customs and they decide Duty is payable you get a Form in the mail telling you what is due. You then have to go to the designated Post Office with I.D., pay the Tax and collect your item yourself.

I have never heard of anyone either paying the Postman on delivery or being charged after the item has been delivered.

Patrick

I can assure you that all those items were delivered by either a postman on a motorbike, or someone in a van on about 3 occasions, and each time I was phoned and asked for directions to my house. Nobody ever asked for any payment.

Which is exactly what I Posted, if you take the time to read properly.

By far MOST times that will happen with items sent by ordinary Post - USPS from the 'States, Royal Mail (or whatever silly name they use now) from the U.K. etc. etc..

Delivered straight to your door by your usual Postman.

Maybe 5% of the time the shipment will be stopped at Customs and you have the Customs Department demanding Import Duty and VAT etc. and the procedure then is as I have explained.

Patrick

I am going to the post office tomorrow, and I know what you are saying about the customs. Thanks again Patrick, your help is really appreciated.

[samran]

So a guitar that is made in Thailand is marked up the price of a guitar imported from the US?

If we are talking like for like. Second hand car market is a classic example.

While I am often wrong, as far as I know, no one manufactures used cars in Thailand. Do you have an example?

People sell used cars though and there is Avery healthy market for second hand imports in other places from japan etc. a market is a market is a market. Doesn't matter if the production is in Thailand or Timbuktu. Stick up a tariff wall, people act accordingly. Edited January 5, 2014 by samran

[mogandave]

So a guitar that is made in Thailand is marked up the price of a guitar imported from the US?

If we are talking like for like. Second hand car market is a classic example.

While I am often wrong, as far as I know, no one manufactures used cars in Thailand. Do you have an example?

People sell used cars though and there is Avery healthy market for second hand imports in other places from japan etc. a market is a market is a market. Doesn't matter if the production is in Thailand or Timbuktu. Stick up a tariff wall, people act accordingly.

In any event, new or used, a car manufactured in Thailand is generally significantly cheaper in Thailand than a car manufactured outside Thailand and imported into Thailand, whether it was imported when it was new or used.

If you are against import duties, fine, but to be clear, they (duties) do exactly what they are intended to do.

Are you against import duties? If so, is it because they are not regressive enough?

[In Search of Space]

I have had a few official parcels delivered by DHL etc & I have been hit with tax on delivery

[mogandave]

I have had a few official parcels delivered by DHL etc & I have been hit with tax on delivery

Keep in mind, the cleaner your paperwork is, the faster it will clear, and the less likely they are to make a mistake concerning what you owe.

As others have indicated, if you want to cheat the Thai people out of the tax revenue, you are better off using the post rather than a courier service.