pascalpat Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hello, I'm looking to buy or rent a couple of helium cylinders in the Pattaya area, does anyone know where could I buy helium? I've been reading old topics here with outdated information. I've contacted airliquide.com, linde-gas.com, boc.com, which are gas suppliers available in Thailand, but didn't get any reply. I don't want the alternative (i.e. "hydrogen", because it's dangerous), I'm looking for pure helium only. I'm willing to pay expensive price, and also willing to drive to Bangkok, I just need some reliable information, an address, a phone number that works, current prices, ANYTHING that could help me get helium! Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Could ask a dive shop that does technical diving, like Samui Easytek 143/65 Moo 12, Teprasit Road though the gas they use may be different from what is used in balloons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Did you try TIG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Any decent welding supply should be able to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerspace Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Helium in welding? Not saying its wrong but sounds surprising for an inert gas? There is a party shop upstairs in the avenue, never been in but maybe worth asking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Helium in welding? Not saying its wrong but sounds surprising for an inert gas? There is a party shop upstairs in the avenue, never been in but maybe worth asking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Yes, used for stainless, aluminium and titanium. helium is a byproduct of natural gas refining, it is in short supply at the moment as America is the biggest suppler and congress is undecided how much the should hold back, unfortunately the world supply is not renewable and once released to the atmosphere it will escape Earths gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 If Is it helium they use in tryes to improve economy , speed etc then i would try where the motor-cye boys with their fancy racing bikes buy their equipment . No doubt they are using nitrogen or helium in those skinny tryes to squeeze the last bit of speed out of their bikes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Ask a motorbike taxi bloke, or ask the chicks that walk around restaurants selling helium filled balloons to kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Helium in bike tires? Thats a new one to me. Helium will escape very quickly through the rubber of a tire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Ask a motorbike taxi bloke, or ask the chicks that walk around restaurants selling helium filled balloons to kids. Would expect most, if not all. of those balloons are filled with hydrogen, not helium, due to cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Helium in welding? Not saying its wrong but sounds surprising for an inert gas? There is a party shop upstairs in the avenue, never been in but maybe worth asking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app helium and argon are used as "shielding" gases in special welding procedures because they are not flammable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Helium in welding? Not saying its wrong but sounds surprising for an inert gas? There is a party shop upstairs in the avenue, never been in but maybe worth asking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Argon is more common, but Helium is used as well, particularly in mixes. (Heliarc is a trade name for TIG welding) Party shop should have it, but they generally just get it from a welding supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadoo Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Helium in welding? Not saying its wrong but sounds surprising for an inert gas? There is a party shop upstairs in the avenue, never been in but maybe worth asking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Argon is more common, but Helium is used as well, particularly in mixes. (Heliarc is a trade name for TIG welding) Party shop should have it, but they generally just get it from a welding supply. I'm amazed how people know so much about our business - I never knew we purchased our helium from a welding supply company, I am sure we order from TIG. Anyway, helium to order can be very a expensive proposition as there is only 1 size tank they will supply which is expensive, then there is about a 10k security deposit on the tank, plus delivery charge, plus you then need a specialised regulator that is designed for balloons which they won't rent to you and you have to purchase which I think costs about 5 or 6k. To order from TIG you first have to apply for an account with them this took us about 3 weeks if my memory serves me correct. Please stay away from balloons street or market sellers as they use hydrogen and if this sparks ie hot light globe it will explode into a fireball and can severely injure your children. Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Isn't TIG a welding supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 As said before Helium is in short supply in the world ,i know as my daughter uses it in her buisness and she only gets it because she is such an old client(this is in the uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Please do not confuse TIG Thai Industrial Gases (a company, part of the Linde Group) with TIG (Tungsten Inert Gas) welding. Edited January 13, 2014 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Please do not confuse TIG Thai Industrial Gases (a company, part of the Linde Group) with TIG (Tungsten Inert Gas) welding. I'm not confused. TIG sells welding supplies as well as industrial gases and safety supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stedyedy Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why not argon,hydrogens not dangerous if you use spark aresstors,bubblers and not only that but it changes molecular structure of objects alluminium will weld to steal to glass to rock even,all at once magic stuff and its easy to produce. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why not argon,hydrogens not dangerous if you use spark aresstors,bubblers and not only that but it changes molecular structure of objects alluminium will weld to steal to glass to rock even,all at once magic stuff and its easy to produce. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Not sure what planet you are on? Argon for welding or balloons? Argon is commonly used as a shield gas in welding but for some alloys Helium gives a better result, Argon is more dense than air , it would be like brewers droop to a balloon. Hydrogen, for welding, I do not think any spark arrestor will stop the inevitable "Big Bang", for balloons you need to keep hydrogen away from oxygen, this is not easy as I assume as hydrogen is less denser than helium so will escape even more easily from most balloons, and the slightest form of ignition will cause a big fire ball, just ask the captain of the German passenger airship LZ 129 Hindenburg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyuk Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hi all, just to clear a point, racing tyres are usually filled with Nitrogen as it is not affected by temperature so not altering tyre pressure during a race. Andyuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 To make balloons rise just fill them with hot air (over the surrounding cooler air), I could ask my wife and her mates to drop in. You would just need to supply them with a couple of bottles of red wine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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