You TV members help me? My girl wants cosmetic surgery

[thailiketoo]

I take it you have never been married.

Three times according to most legal jurisdictions.

Many more than that, more than I'd like to admit, depending how you define the term.

Never once if being pussy-whipped is required as you seem to think.

My first wife - Australian - was a very politically aware and active feminist, and she considered me more radically so than herself, and I raised the children while she earned the income for twenty years.

However I certainly never let her wear the pants, and she would never have dreamed of getting the kind of artificial enhancements discussed here.

And I would never get into, nor continue in, a relationship with a woman who would want to abuse herself that way.

I think you will find most intelligent/educated/thoughtful people would not find cosmetic surgery abuse. If that is the abuse you are talking about. Or maybe I missed something.

[wym]

I think you will find most intelligent/educated/thoughtful people would not find cosmetic surgery abuse. If that is the abuse you are talking about. Or maybe I missed something.

Obviously to each their own. Some (sub)cultures are more accepting of such things, and I admit I'm old-fashioned and a bit dogmatic in my belief structures. Personally I think modern media and pornographic culture is abusively brainwashing women to try to meet unrealistic standards, and as I said don't approve of hair colouring or excessive makeup, tattoos or body piercing, much less going under the knife.

Not to mention the fact that **naturally occurring** youth and beauty are so abundantly available here.

Putting that issue aside, - he question was "should I pay for it"?

Same issue as if - let's pretend - she's asked for the latest iPhone

My answer is yes, but only if:

**you** want her to get it too, and

you can afford it, and

you feel like giving her this gift (in my terms, she's earned it by past performance)

The possibilty that she may head out the door in search of a better sponsor soon after the scars heal then becomes moot.

[quiuvo]

Telling a woman what to do with her body is a thing guys have tried to do since the dawn of man without much success.

Saying no to a woman is a loosing proposition since slavery was abolished and even then it didn't work very well; look at Thomas Jefferson.

It comes down to two choices. Live alone or live with a woman. If you live with a woman you can make noises like you win arguments to impress the kids but really she always wins.

Speak for yourself, as long as you're always ready to walk away, no problem. Soon as you start buying into the whole "to death do us part" scam you're right you're whipped.

For me even coloring hair or too much makeup, slutty clothes etc are deal breakers, tattoos, piercing or any CS is not even to be discussed. All made very clear up front before the long-term deal is closed, and if you've found the right kind of girl none of this is part of her world anyway, she sees such as freakish as I do.

A man s paying $1,500 to his gf. Soon he will pay sin sot even though she has a child! I'm not that ignorant. Breast enhancement is one thing .but car, house, bags, no no. I go USA

You say that now but some Thai girls are real manipulative !!

She knows how to make you happy, and she'll keep giving u what u what until she keeps getting what she wants.

How about you dump her ASAP and use that $1,500 USD to soul search around Thailand for a real genuine girl who actually appreciates your time & love? 555

As long as she really IS giving her man what he wants, and the related expenses are worth that value delivered then no problem.

When (rarely "if") that value proposition starts turning upside down, it's time to cut your losses and walk away.

In my experience no matter how "genuine the girl who actually appreciates your time & love" there eventually comes a time when their expectations grow beyond what I consider reasonable, and for many of us the girl you're talking about is very hard to find indeed, especially the fat/bald/boring geriatric control freaks among us.

Pay as you go works just fine in that scenario then, just a question of fair value for time/energy/money spent.

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An economist ate you? Thanks

[quiuvo]

An economist ARE you.

[wym]

I liked the "ate me" better 8-)

It was a question of economics wasn't it?

More like I'm economical - some guys do like to throw their money away for very little value returned, I'm unfortunately not in a position to do the same.

[JLCrab]

I take it you have never been married.

Three times according to most legal jurisdictions.

Many more than that, more than I'd like to admit, depending how you define the term.

Never once if being pussy-whipped is required as you seem to think. Of course you may well buy into the "monogamy 'til death do us part" scam, IMO same difference.

My first wife - Australian - was a very politically aware and active feminist, and she considered me more radically so than herself, and I raised the children while she earned the income for twenty years.

However I certainly never let her wear the pants, and she would never have dreamed of getting the kind of artificial enhancements discussed here.

And I would never get into, nor continue in, a relationship with a woman who would want to abuse herself that way.

So three times legally married and many more otherwise. No wonder you don't want anyone except by choice to know where you live as per post on moving-back-to-the-states.

[wym]

So three times legally married and many more otherwise. No wonder you don't want anyone except by choice to know where you live as per post on moving-back-to-the-states.

I haven't had a breakup with bad feelings yet, nearly every ex has tried to get back together with me once finding out green pastures aren't so much. In a few cases I've agreed to give it a go, but rarely can humpty be put back together again for long.

Always on friendly terms though, nary a stalker in the lot, still in regular touch with all but one, and that one got just too angry that I wasn't willing to try to patch things up - she's over sixty now though, but her grown kids regularly come to visit with my grandkids. . .

And I've never subscribed to the 'til death do us part' myth, may work for some but not what I'm looking for, made clear up front every time.

But I do leave 'em in better condition than I found 'em, generally low mileage and much more suitable for their always much wealthier, usually handsummer next partner. . .

The address thing is to me just common sense - why would I want every Tom Dick and Harry knowing where to find me if I don't want to be disturbed, privacy is still a right even these days, but of course only if you're willing to take the extraordinary steps required.

Edited January 8, 2014 by wym

[JLCrab]

A true Libertarian who thinks every Tom, Dick, & Harry wants to find him.

[wym]

What's politics got to do with it?

Personal preference only, IMO common sense.

Even if no one's looking, why advertise that information?

The convenience factor alone - they pay my bills, fax specific paperwork onward, re-mail online purchases, haven't had to change my mailing address for decades. . .

[kirstymelb101]

Telling a woman what to do with her body is a thing guys have tried to do since the dawn of man without much success.

Saying no to a woman is a loosing proposition since slavery was abolished and even then it didn't work very well; look at Thomas Jefferson.

It comes down to two choices. Live alone or live with a woman. If you live with a woman you can make noises like you win arguments to impress the kids but really she always wins.

I see you're happily married then!

[thailiketoo]

Telling a woman what to do with her body is a thing guys have tried to do since the dawn of man without much success.

Saying no to a woman is a loosing proposition since slavery was abolished and even then it didn't work very well; look at Thomas Jefferson.

It comes down to two choices. Live alone or live with a woman. If you live with a woman you can make noises like you win arguments to impress the kids but really she always wins.

I see you're happily married then!

Yes. I am happy. Wife is happy. Dog is happy. I'm to marriage what Dr Hook was to rock and roll. I expect any day to have my picture on the cover or Rolling Stone.