House dog on the moo bann (housing estate) street.

[Docno]

I agree with you trying to sort the issue the dog in your estate & everyone should follow the rules for it to be more enjoyable but I don't agree with you being a rude c unt about race/class or where they are from & a backbone isn't going to do much for you when you get stabbed or jumped & bashed.

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I apologize if you see my remark as racist/classist. It was not meant to be. It is the truth. If the people were hi-so business owners of reputable families would calling them high-class bangkokians also be racist. I think not. It is just the truth. And further more your insult to me shows the kind of class you may belong to.

Actually I find it offensive that you assume that just because a Thai family has been instructed by the police to follow a Farang's wishes (confirmed by the city Vet) regarding how to keep their dog the will automatically retaliate by stabbing, jumping (whatever that is) and bashing. You are classing all Thais alike as violent, vindictive monsters who cannot except the rule of law under any circumstances. Or is that just the truth!!??

It is racist because of the context in which you said it ... by specifying that they are a 'low class family from Isaan', you are insinuating that their behaviour is somehow related to their origin. [And 'low class' is always a derogatory term in the first place]. Specifying their presumed place of origin adds no useful information to your story. So it comes across as prejudiced... just as if I said "I'm not going to let some low-class Turk push me around".

BTW, if they're so 'low class', what are they doing in the same housing estate as you?

Notice you didn't comment on my saying you're classing all Thais as violent ..which I find more insulting than anything I may have written. They come from Isaan, just as some come from Bangkok, others from Europe or Australia. That is not insulting it is the truth. I understand an Isaan accent. Low-class, well their actions have put them there. Nuff said.

When did you accuse me of classing all Thais as violent? I made only one post before this one and said nothing about all Thais being violent.

That said, I do believe that it's best to first try to resolve matters non-confrontationally in SE Asia because of the face issue. If you have exhausted that approach without success, then by all means take a more assertive/legalistic one. But I think you know that some people in Thailand (but in our home countries too) can react unpredictably and even aggressively to this ... this is when you go to 'war' and the situation becomes win-lose. Hope this is not the case here. BTW, I highly recommend the book 'Getting to Yes' by members of the Harvard negotiation project ... about how to achieve outcomes without 'doing battle' or destroying relationships.

[4u2mad]

I think you did the right thing.

If everybody else on the estate takes care of their animals, why shouldn't they? If you wanted to live on a council sink estate in the UK, you could do that without moving 6,000+ miles

[jonesthebaker]

Nice to see another farang resident trying his best to fit in with the community and get on with his neighbors.

Down my way our dogs will bark during the day, my neighbors dogs bark during the day, the chick chicks cock-a-doodle-doo day and night, we take short cuts over our neigbors land to the main road, our neighbors take short cuts over our land to wherever it is they are going. But this is all part and parcel of living among a Thai community.

Many farangs that decide to plonk themselves in Thailand find it difficult to adapt here and get off their high horses, believing that what is not acceptable in the West should also apply in Thailand. I would hate to have a farang neighbour who holds the same attitudes and if I was to be unfortunate enough to one day suddenly find a farang moving in the close proximity to my home, it would not be long before me and them would be at war

The OP has probably not done himself and family any favours regarding his holier than thou attitudes and complaints to his neighbor which has involved the police. The police will also consider this farang as a nuisance, an irritant and a troublemaker for wasting their time on such trivial matters.

These farangs fail to realise that we are guests in this country, we rely and hope on gaining the friendships and respect of the Thai communities with live with, otherwise if they manage to gather the wrath of these people around them and from the authorities, the people could make life extremely unpleasant for them.

My advice is, for those who have little tolerance for their neighbors around them, is to buy a large plot of land, build a house right at the centre of it, surround the land with a high wall and live in seclusion among themselves and their families, otherwise perhaps they should consider that Thailand is not for them.

with your attitude you wouldn't last long as my neigbour. it takes nothing to be considerate of ones neighbours. however, being considerate does not entail being tolerant of antisocial and ignorant behavior. you seem to live in an upside down world.

Edited January 6, 2014 by jonesthebaker

[SeaVisionBurma]

Locking this thread for a clean up - a number of derogatory, bickering posts will be removed.

Edit: On a read through the complete thread, this will not be re-opened.

Posting derogatory, abusive and off-topic comments (the OP's posts included) is not acceptable.

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