EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: People's revolution 'will win'

[jackrich]

I still wonder how can Suthep be so untouchable despite of his crazy acts, why is he untouchable? He won't listen to court orders, he won't give no dam_n to arrest warrants.. Wonder why? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

His puppeteer must be more powerful than the Army or Police.

[GazR]

I still wonder how can Suthep be so untouchable despite of his crazy acts, why is he untouchable? He won't listen to court orders, he won't give no dam_n to arrest warrants.. Wonder why? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

IMO you're wondering why because you are obviously if not willfully starting with several false premises there.

[tingtongteesood]

So all you twits who keep on and on and on that he wants violence and a coup, enough. He said no he doesn't. Accept it. It is Thaksin who wants violence to discredit the protests, plain for all to see...;.

[GazR]

So all you twits who keep on and on and on that he wants violence and a coup, enough. He said no he doesn't. Accept it. It is Thaksin who wants violence to discredit the protests, plain for all to see...;.

While I don't completely agree with you, I do hope that any violence is of the mock, ritualized kind played out for years seemingly every day in South Korea back 20-30 years ago - which was part of the successful effort to reform democracy there.

[Ulic]

His history is vastly different than his words. We shall see what comes to pass.

[473geo]

I guess if people cannot absorb the historical fact Thaksin decreased the level of poverty in Thailand, which may be a rather significant element of his popularity, then they are dim enough to support anybody else rolls up in opposition.

FYI the most respected independent research organization in Thailand, the TDRI, has shown that income disparity in Thailand has INCREASED due to the populist mania started by Thaksin. Go check it out, dude.

Income disparity?

This affects the recognised baselines used to assess and define poverty, those above and below,exactly how?

More pro-Thaksin obfustication we could do without: Like I said, go check it out,dude - or don't they trust you to do that?

> www.tdri.or.th

tdri

"According to TDRI research in 2011,out of 17.6 million farmers, only 7.7 million were considered poor."

From a more detailed site

"Although the reduction in poverty incidence and its severity occurred across the country, the decline was not uniform across regions. By 1992, while poverty incidence was very low in and around Bangkok (just over 1 percent), more than a fifth of the population in the Northeast and a seventh of those in the North remained poor.

Income disparity has no effect on the above equation as it relates to the amount of money being in the hands of a few not the hands of the many.

Concluson: you choose not to understand the improvements made by Thaksin governments regarding poverty

[Toscano]

To my reading , Sutheps thinking is very muddled . The people who have blindly been following him on his anti Thaksin trail have no understanding of his

real purpose in staging a political insurrection . Even at this stage Suthep isn't able to give a clear picture of what can be acheaved , it is all vaguely pie in the sky . So the idea is to form a government with no politicians , say , just businessmen , shopkeepers , university professors etc. , people who know nothing about government , international relations . One presumes they would be the yessmen executives to follow dictatorship from a chosen few .

One presumes local governors would be the commissars to keep the regional people under control . If they want to decentralise , why not let the north and

northeast govern themselve , the southern region governed from Bangkok .

Suthep doesn't have a clear workable plan , even if he does overthrow Yingluck's government , he will remain in a no win situation . I do not believe a

coup can achieve anything either , only civil war . The polarization of the people and country today was caused by the 2006 coup to overthrow Thaksin .

The attitude is not so much faithful following of Thaksin , it is if you instigate a coup as the democrats and yellow shirts did to overthrow Thaksin, the people of the north who have the overall voting power are going to stuff Thaksin down their throats . If as suggested politicians are to be banned from

public office for five years , that should include Suthep , Abhisit and all other politicians . You cannot reform the country , get rid of corruption while any of the oldguard are involved .

[rebelplatoon]

Most problems in the world start with 3 words: "I am right".

The truth is the white in between the lines of both camps.

Talks with understanding and kindness and Meta for the

people of Thailand, who will eventually suffer, are the answer.

[rebelplatoon]

To my reading , Sutheps thinking is very muddled . The people who have blindly been following him on his anti Thaksin trail have no understanding of his

real purpose in staging a political insurrection . Even at this stage Suthep isn't able to give a clear picture of what can be acheaved , it is all vaguely pie in the sky . So the idea is to form a government with no politicians , say , just businessmen , shopkeepers , university professors etc. , people who know nothing about government , international relations . One presumes they would be the yessmen executives to follow dictatorship from a chosen few .

One presumes local governors would be the commissars to keep the regional people under control . If they want to decentralise , why not let the north and

northeast govern themselve , the southern region governed from Bangkok .

Suthep doesn't have a clear workable plan , even if he does overthrow Yingluck's government , he will remain in a no win situation . I do not believe a

coup can achieve anything either , only civil war . The polarization of the people and country today was caused by the 2006 coup to overthrow Thaksin .

The attitude is not so much faithful following of Thaksin , it is if you instigate a coup as the democrats and yellow shirts did to overthrow Thaksin, the people of the north who have the overall voting power are going to stuff Thaksin down their throats . If as suggested politicians are to be banned from

public office for five years , that should include Suthep , Abhisit and all other politicians . You cannot reform the country , get rid of corruption while any of the oldguard are involved .

In numbers: The TRT and Dems had respectively: 15,744,190 and 11,433,762 people vote for them. A difference in % of the population of resp. (TRT, Dems) 48.41% and 35.15%. (say 13%) people just keep on repeating the same nonsense that the Dems are for the elite. 11.433.762 the Elite???!!! Thailand should be so lucky!

[tingtongteesood]

I admire his vision, despite his chequered past. I can't see Monday not being violent. Thailand has a history of getting things done violently, and I can't see how change can be done peacefully. So we shall see.One thing is clear. Thaksin won't give up, no matter how badly things are stacked up against him, so i cannot see it ending peacefully.All those who think the election should go ahead and rattle on about upholding the law/democracy/etc, obviously have no idea how things work on Thailand. It really isn't as simple as that.

Admire?

He could be bought in a moment.

How do you know, have you tried ? Once again opinion is stated as fact. Please back up opinions with evidence....

[tingtongteesood]

Dear Mr Suthep, please answer me 1 question:

- If you want reforms so badly, why did you not implement them while you were PM and Vice-PM with Abhisit for 3 years?

Yours sincerely.

I guess reform is not that important when you are the one with the power.

Reform is not necessary when the government does it's job fairly and properly. It is the abuse of power by the fugitive and his brown nosing cronies that has made the flaws apparent and reform necessary...

[geriatrickid]

How is that an interview???

Again: not a single question about the "what" and "how"!

"Exclusive" to the Nation.

IMO a planted PR piece and as such one should not have expected difficult or probing questions.

Why don't you write to him and ask if you can interview him on behalf of TV?

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Not a bad idea. However, I suspect I would be terminated from my employment following such a meeting.

I am not to be anywhere near Bangkok this time around. I am chomping at the bit to comment on some threads, but cannot, and I want to be an observer at Monday's events, but am unable. I have run afoul of too many rules and regulations as it is. During the height of the Redshirt activities, I was holed up in a hotel where the very people I was criticizing were staying . I did not show good judgement at the time and will not repeat my

error(s).

[whybother]

To my reading , Sutheps thinking is very muddled . The people who have blindly been following him on his anti Thaksin trail have no understanding of his

real purpose in staging a political insurrection . Even at this stage Suthep isn't able to give a clear picture of what can be acheaved , it is all vaguely pie in the sky . So the idea is to form a government with no politicians , say , just businessmen , shopkeepers , university professors etc. , people who know nothing about government , international relations . One presumes they would be the yessmen executives to follow dictatorship from a chosen few .

One presumes local governors would be the commissars to keep the regional people under control . If they want to decentralise , why not let the north and

northeast govern themselve , the southern region governed from Bangkok .

Suthep doesn't have a clear workable plan , even if he does overthrow Yingluck's government , he will remain in a no win situation . I do not believe a

coup can achieve anything either , only civil war . The polarization of the people and country today was caused by the 2006 coup to overthrow Thaksin .

The attitude is not so much faithful following of Thaksin , it is if you instigate a coup as the democrats and yellow shirts did to overthrow Thaksin, the people of the north who have the overall voting power are going to stuff Thaksin down their throats . If as suggested politicians are to be banned from

public office for five years , that should include Suthep , Abhisit and all other politicians . You cannot reform the country , get rid of corruption while any of the oldguard are involved .

What have you actually been reading? Suthep isn't talking about setting up a government. He's talking about setting up a reform committee.

[Longtooth]

"BANGKOK: -- PROTEST LEADER SUTHEP SEES VICTORY, SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT A COUP AND THE PEOPLE, NOT HIM, MUST DECIDE FUTURE"

How about unobstructed elections to let the people decide the future?

He didn't specify what "people".

[icare999]

I admire his vision, despite his chequered past. I can't see Monday not being violent. Thailand has a history of getting things done violently, and I can't see how change can be done peacefully. So we shall see.One thing is clear. Thaksin won't give up, no matter how badly things are stacked up against him, so i cannot see it ending peacefully.All those who think the election should go ahead and rattle on about upholding the law/democracy/etc, obviously have no idea how things work on Thailand. It really isn't as simple as that.

Admire?

He could be bought in a moment.

idiotic comment if Taksin could have bough him he would have done so long long ago with all his billions

[loogkreung]

"We will win!" Of course they will. The powerful and privileged elite always have done. But win what, exactly? Not an election, that's for sure.

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[ianf]

Dear Mr Suthep, please answer me 1 question:

- If you want reforms so badly, why did you not implement them while you were PM and Vice-PM with Abhisit for 3 years?

Yours sincerely.

Because whilst he and Abhisit were trying to run a government they were constantly undermined by Thaksin and his cronies because their tactic was to disrupt the business of Government.

I have seen many posts from you in which you can only express the Thaksin line without opening your eyes, mind and heart to the reality of the situation.

Tonight I watched the reds harassing people from their stage in Chiang Mai. I found the tone, the expression and the body language used extremely frightening.

It may well be that you have some intellectual reasoning for supporting Thaksin - but the acolytes and the leaders in the provinces only have intimidation and violence in their repertoire because there is no central ideology beyond the reverence they display for their leader. Indeed, as I have said before, Hitler in Mein Kampf was quite clear that 'argumentation' was not the way forward - rather the masses would be won over through the manipulation of their base emotions. This we saw in 2010 (etc) and here it is again. National Socialism? Well, we could discuss the parallels if you wish.

Edited January 12, 2014 by ianf

[473geo]

I admire his vision, despite his chequered past. I can't see Monday not being violent. Thailand has a history of getting things done violently, and I can't see how change can be done peacefully. So we shall see.One thing is clear. Thaksin won't give up, no matter how badly things are stacked up against him, so i cannot see it ending peacefully.All those who think the election should go ahead and rattle on about upholding the law/democracy/etc, obviously have no idea how things work on Thailand. It really isn't as simple as that.

Admire?

He could be bought in a moment.

idiotic comment if Taksin could have bough him he would have done so long long ago with all his billions

You are of course aware there 20+ people above Thaksin on Thailands 'Rich list'

[ianf]

How is that an interview???

Again: not a single question about the "what" and "how"!

"Exclusive" to the Nation.

IMO a planted PR piece and as such one should not have expected difficult or probing questions.

Why don't you write to him and ask if you can interview him on behalf of TV?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Not a bad idea. However, I suspect I would be terminated from my employment following such a meeting.

I am not to be anywhere near Bangkok this time around. I am chomping at the bit to comment on some threads, but cannot, and I want to be an observer at Monday's events, but am unable. I have run afoul of too many rules and regulations as it is. During the height of the Redshirt activities, I was holed up in a hotel where the very people I was criticizing were staying . I did not show good judgement at the time and will not repeat my

error(s).

Geriatrickid: Aaahem .... reading your posts over the past couple of years, with respect, I have not seen any that show good judgement or a good understanding of the Thai political situation.

Edited January 12, 2014 by ianf

[loogkreung]

I don't understand Thai people. Why they are flocking to Bangkok in their millions to show support for a bunch of self interested crooks is beyond me, and this talk of an unelected people's council filled with "good people" fills me with absolute dread. I'm just amazed that people are buying this rubbish. All this trouble has its beginnings with the 2006 coup. If only the power hungry would have had the wisdom to let the then government run it's course, arguably, none of this would have happened. Perhaps, but knowing Thailand, probably not.

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[473geo]

Dear Mr Suthep, please answer me 1 question:

- If you want reforms so badly, why did you not implement them while you were PM and Vice-PM with Abhisit for 3 years?

Yours sincerely.

Because whilst he and Abhisit were trying to run a government they were constantly undermined by Thaksin and his cronies because their tactic was to disrupt the business of Government.

I have seen many posts from you in which you can only express the Thaksin line without opening your eyes, mind and heart to the reality of the situation.

Tonight I watched the reds harassing people from their stage in Chiang Mai. I found the tone, the expression and the body language used extremely frightening.

It may well be that you have some intellectual reasoning for supporting Thaksin - but the acolytes and the leaders in the provinces only have intimidation and violence in their repertoire because there is no central ideology beyond the reverence they display for their leader. Indeed, as I have said before, Hitler in Mein Kampf was quite clear that 'argumentation' was not the way forward - rather the masses would be won over through the manipulation of their base emotions. This we saw in 2010 (etc) and here it is again. National Socialism? Well, we could discuss the parallels if you wish.

How do you expect voters who have cast their vote to behave when the losers try to overturn their choice of government?

Honest people would look through recent history and surely identify the peoples choice has constantly been overturned, do you understand how easily it is for the leaders to manipulate people who feel they are been shafted! Even Sutheps support is based on this very premise!

[i claudius]

It is not Bangkok that should be shut down it is Suthep.

Talk about stirring up a hornets nest.

Most countries wouldn't allow him to get away with this sort of rabble raising and closing down of a

capital city.

He just represents a bunch of spoilt brats who had years to implement reform and never did and when Thaksin came along and used the institutionalised corrupted system to benefit his cronies and left out all the old money cronies well that just wouldn't do would it.

Old money old elite did nothing to change the system for years but when they lost control suddenly start prattling on about a peoples revolution.

Only the truly naïve could swallow that codswallop.

Do you realise the Democrats have only been in power for 9 years since 1932?

Sent from my phone ...

That has nought to do with anything.

He just happens to be representative of those who have profited from a corrupt system in the past and did nothing to try and change it until someone else was taking the booty.

What political parties were or weren't in power is really irrelevant.

the liberals in UK have not been in power or won an election in over 100 years (I think) but their ideas and support is still huge and they now for first time a large part of current UK government except for a brief pack (not coalition) with labour

The Liberals have not been in power for over 100 years in Britain ,and after seeing what they are like in a coalition ,they will have trouble getting more votes that the monster raving loony party at the next election .

[473geo]

"Exclusive" to the Nation.

IMO a planted PR piece and as such one should not have expected difficult or probing questions.

Why don't you write to him and ask if you can interview him on behalf of TV?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Not a bad idea. However, I suspect I would be terminated from my employment following such a meeting.

I am not to be anywhere near Bangkok this time around. I am chomping at the bit to comment on some threads, but cannot, and I want to be an observer at Monday's events, but am unable. I have run afoul of too many rules and regulations as it is. During the height of the Redshirt activities, I was holed up in a hotel where the very people I was criticizing were staying . I did not show good judgement at the time and will not repeat my

error(s).

Geriatrickid: Aaahem .... reading your posts over the past couple of years, with respect, I have not seen any that show good judgement or a good understanding of the Thai political situation.

Then it would appear you struggle with either poor comprehension skills, tunnel vision, or both! Get well soon

[ianf]

Dear Mr Suthep, please answer me 1 question:

- If you want reforms so badly, why did you not implement them while you were PM and Vice-PM with Abhisit for 3 years?

Yours sincerely.

Because whilst he and Abhisit were trying to run a government they were constantly undermined by Thaksin and his cronies because their tactic was to disrupt the business of Government.

I have seen many posts from you in which you can only express the Thaksin line without opening your eyes, mind and heart to the reality of the situation.

Tonight I watched the reds harassing people from their stage in Chiang Mai. I found the tone, the expression and the body language used extremely frightening.

It may well be that you have some intellectual reasoning for supporting Thaksin - but the acolytes and the leaders in the provinces only have intimidation and violence in their repertoire because there is no central ideology beyond the reverence they display for their leader. Indeed, as I have said before, Hitler in Mein Kampf was quite clear that 'argumentation' was not the way forward - rather the masses would be won over through the manipulation of their base emotions. This we saw in 2010 (etc) and here it is again. National Socialism? Well, we could discuss the parallels if you wish.

How do you expect voters who have cast their vote to behave when the losers try to overturn their choice of government?

Honest people would look through recent history and surely identify the peoples choice has constantly been overturned, do you understand how easily it is for the leaders to manipulate people who feel they are been shafted! Even Sutheps support is based on this very premise!

Every recent election has been stolen through the excess manipulation, threats of violence, corruption and similar which are the trademarks of the Thaksin era.

One Thai family that I have known for 20 years were threatened at gunpoint during the last election because they openly campaigned locally against Thaksin. Democracy?

Every Abhisit poster during the last election was defaced by Red Thaksin supporters. Democracy?

One of the so-called drug dealers, extra-judicially murdered by Thaksin, was in fact no more than a political opponent. Democracy?

One of Thaksin's PR people has admitted that Thaksin's men in black are being used during the current protests. Democracy?

The Government has been run by a convicted criminal from Dubai as a personal regime. This has been admitted by Cabinet Ministers. Democracy?

So boring trying to educate you folks .....

Edited January 12, 2014 by ianf

[osiboy]

revolution , a good thing imo , we could do with one in the UK too come to think of it, ..........start from scratch and stop the greed of the " elite"...... worldwide!

And led by a man who, in the 1980s, gave away Phuket land earmarked for the poor to 11 of its richest families, then later used his political influence to ensure palm oil shares were valued artifically high so that his family could sell theirs at a massive profit.

Really, do people not bother to investigate Suthep's shady political past and think it odd that he is shouting so loud about the need to clean up politics?

some good points , however , i didn't mean i wanted suthep to lead a UK revolution <deleted> ! , but owen jones would be caretaker rooting out the dead wood for burning ,or at least a few years hard labour , the present cabinate ministers would spend the 5 yrs on govt welfare only , and have to live in my spare bedroom !,................all of them !

[icare999]

It is not Bangkok that should be shut down it is Suthep.

Talk about stirring up a hornets nest.

Most countries wouldn't allow him to get away with this sort of rabble raising and closing down of a

capital city.

He just represents a bunch of spoilt brats who had years to implement reform and never did and when Thaksin came along and used the institutionalised corrupted system to benefit his cronies and left out all the old money cronies well that just wouldn't do would it.

Old money old elite did nothing to change the system for years but when they lost control suddenly start prattling on about a peoples revolution.

Only the truly naïve could swallow that codswallop.

and only the really naive would not recognise how awful corrupt and dangerous Taksin is and his plan to take total control of everything

SO I guess you'd like a one party taksin state because without suphet that is exactly what would carry on happening

[icare999]

''He refused any compromise or negotiation. Once the government could no longer function, people would become sovereign holders of power and their orders would become law.''

Somebody has already said on this forum, why, with arrest warrants issued for him, is he still free, inciting riots and civil disobedience? What message does this send to the rest of the world? Further, the quote (above) says it all, really - No negotiations or compromise (fascist?). If the people become sovereign holders, as he stated, their rule would NOT be law and most certainly not Democratic! This could only be as a result of negligence (on the part of the current powers that be), or civil war!

I wonderwhat else was in those noodles, that he ate for lunch!

you mean Taksin of course or are you like all brainwashed Taksim followers happy to apply normal double standards

if all you opponents of Supet started applying your comments to real dictator or at least recognise the harm he and his clan have done then maybe sensible people like me might have a little more time for your BS

[fab4]

To my reading , Sutheps thinking is very muddled . The people who have blindly been following him on his anti Thaksin trail have no understanding of his

real purpose in staging a political insurrection . Even at this stage Suthep isn't able to give a clear picture of what can be acheaved , it is all vaguely pie in the sky . So the idea is to form a government with no politicians , say , just businessmen , shopkeepers , university professors etc. , people who know nothing about government , international relations . One presumes they would be the yessmen executives to follow dictatorship from a chosen few .

One presumes local governors would be the commissars to keep the regional people under control . If they want to decentralise , why not let the north and

northeast govern themselve , the southern region governed from Bangkok .

Suthep doesn't have a clear workable plan , even if he does overthrow Yingluck's government , he will remain in a no win situation . I do not believe a

coup can achieve anything either , only civil war . The polarization of the people and country today was caused by the 2006 coup to overthrow Thaksin .

The attitude is not so much faithful following of Thaksin , it is if you instigate a coup as the democrats and yellow shirts did to overthrow Thaksin, the people of the north who have the overall voting power are going to stuff Thaksin down their throats . If as suggested politicians are to be banned from

public office for five years , that should include Suthep , Abhisit and all other politicians . You cannot reform the country , get rid of corruption while any of the oldguard are involved .

What have you actually been reading? Suthep isn't talking about setting up a government. He's talking about setting up a reform committee.

So I must have been dreaming (if only) when I read this

Once the government could no longer function, people would become sovereign holders of power and their orders would become law.

"The people's assembly will exclude politicians. Otherwise, you won't be able to change laws on elections, political parties and corruption," Suthep said, noting that people who take part in the assembly must be banned from politics for five years.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/696022-exclusive-interview-peoples-revolution-will-win/

[3NUMBAS]

if he does win no Thai democracy is safe from these thugs ,it sets a new low for thugery and disorder and lawlessness

[michaeljordan]

Hitler and Gerbil had nothing on the yellows when it comes to twisted propaganda.

I am NOT calling them Nazis nor am I saying they are monsters. I am simply referring to propaganda.

They call themselves Democratic when they clearly do not want anything to do with the vote which is of course critical to Democracy.

They call themselves "THE PEOPLE" making one think of the common man and the poor but in fact they oppose the poor and have tried every way imaginable to stop the vote from the poor from being counted.

The reds are not opposing a popular vote and are in fact begging for it. it is the Yellow group and the elite who back it which is stopping the common man from voting for the Reds again as has happened again and again over the last 14 years.

He at last says he will surrender and go home should there be violence. Easy for him to say as he laughs to himself since he knows the violence will allow the military coup which his group has been pushing all along.

He is funny. But make no mistake. He does not stand alone. The Elite of Thailand and a majority of the Generals in command of the troops are working hand in hand for his cause.

I understand why elite in Thailand and Thais raised in the same system might defend it. It is the way it always has been and it is what they know. It is quite profitable for the Elite. What I do not understand is why any Fa rang would back this anti-democratic power elite non-democratic government. Is it the cheap girls? You want slaves too at a discount? You hate Democracy in your own home nation too? Well no matter because when and if the sheet hits the fan here, you will have your life changed because Thailand will not be an option for you anymore be if for living or just vacation.

This place is a pile of gas waiting for a match to be thrown. My hats off to the wonderful moderators here for defending speech as well as they can and for keeping the conversations polite. Nice people can and do disagree. One of my best friends is a hardcore yellow and I of course oppose the Yellows.

Best wishes to all.