webfact Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Many Stolen cars found at East Pattaya secure compoundPATTAYA: -- 28 vehicles, all suspected of being stolen, were discovered in a secure compound in East Pattaya on Saturday afternoon.Provincial Police Investigators led the investigation following complaints from many car owners and rental company’s that a group of Thai men were renting cars and not returning them.Khun Chaleuy aged 36 is the owner of a White Honda Civic which he sent to a rental company. The vehicle was rented out to two Thai Men for a period of 10 days at a cost of 8,000 Baht in December 2013 and was never returned.Luckily the vehicle was fitted with a GPS Tracking device and over a 2 day period the signal was monitored by Police. The vehicle remained stationary at a location in Soi Nong Yai in East Pattaya.Officers went to the location and found a secure compound which was broken-into and 28 vehicles were found inside.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/114877/many-stolen-cars-found-at-east-pattaya-secure-compound/-- Pattaya One 2014-01-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted January 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2014 Nice looking compound......I suspect that whoever was running this operation is well connected , so of course he will never be charged. Interesting about the tracking device. Guess the thieves will have to learn how to disable it..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwe_rayong Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It is very easy to disable a GPS signal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Edited January 13, 2014 by ExpatOilWorker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LivinLOS Posted January 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? While this isnt hard to achieve with a smartphone (theres plenty of tracking and logging apps.. Ownspy being a very good one) with an old mobile wired into a charging circuit.. This still has dawbacks, namely that it will need full time data account (monthly cost) and has cell signal coverage / data issues and of course charging issues if they were to pull the batter contacts and the phone discharges. Much better is to add a tracker device that also operates via SMS commands.. It needs no monthly data account (tho of course many models come with this option for historical mapping / tracking also) and the battery tends to last weeks not days. If the car goes missing you send an SMS and without a data account the device responds its GPS co-ords via SMS also. These are not expensive and worth while on any high risk car like a rental or something special (tho I would think anything special these days will have a good enough immobilizer to not get stolen without a key). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. Edited January 13, 2014 by ExpatOilWorker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soic Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I bought a zoombak GPS transponder in the states. Cost about $50 and $19 a month for service. It is rechargeable or can be hard wired in the CSR. I was able to track my car through a website and with my smartphone, realtime. Surelythere can be a Chinese knock off aavailable there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Strange why the other 17 vehicles wern't reported stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 "Luckily the vehicle was fitted with a GPS Tracking device and over a 2 day period the signal was monitored by Police." And why, pray tell, did they only monitor it for two days? Why not go there right away? Were they checking to see which big cheeses might be involved in this, give them fair warning to cover some tracks? Or perhaps just a simple way to keep a couple of cops "busy" at the station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 With the cost/value of cars here in Thailand you would thing many people would install a tracking device in any vehicle that is considered high risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 And why, pray tell, did they only monitor it for two days? Why not go there right away? It took two days to realise that they had the map upside down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 This past summer I ran into a guy in Oregon that had a GPS tracker embedded in the bottom of his bike seat. He was actually hoping his bike got stolen so he could nab the bike thieves that are so active these days. Good on the cops for busting that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Right, I got that, but a phone seems to receive and transmit on just one SIM card, so still wondering, why 2 SIM cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Right, I got that, but a phone seems to receive and transmit on just one SIM card, so still wondering, why 2 SIM cards. The device does many other things depending on what version you buy and how much money you spend for it. They run 3,000B and up. It is a very crude cell phone sending only SMS messages. You can monitor not only location but you can shut the engine off, listen to the people in the car if a microphone is installed, have a conversation with them, and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed. All that uses one SIM. Then you send commands to the device with the other SIM. You only need one SIM if you only need location and nothing else. Two SIM's if you want more features. It's just the way the electronics are set up and designed in order to keep the cost down. If you want to pay 20,000B+, then yes, only one SIM is needed because you are paying for the extra cell phone electronics and all the extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 How much costs this kind of GPS to track a car ? Where to buy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. I never managed to extend DTAC prepaid sim cards, how do you do ? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 "Luckily the vehicle was fitted with a GPS Tracking device and over a 2 day period the signal was monitored by Police." And why, pray tell, did they only monitor it for two days? Why not go there right away? Were they checking to see which big cheeses might be involved in this, give them fair warning to cover some tracks? Or perhaps just a simple way to keep a couple of cops "busy" at the station? Not even the obligatory low-level worker was arrested, it seems. It also seems these fools have never heard of a stakeout - this happens too many times, so Emster, I think you are spot on the money. "Dick" for detective is oh so appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. I never managed to extend DTAC prepaid sim cards, how do you do ? Thank you. I am sure there is a way to do it by typing *(a bunch of numbers)#, but I just called the call center and it was done. Got a SMS as soon as I hung up, saying number extended by 6 month, 12 baht deducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Is there a device available you can hide away dormant in your car and then activate and request a GPS location? Could this be done with an old smartphone, pre paid SIM card, the right app and a small battery pack to last a week? Yes...they are available from several sources. Several work better than others. You'll need to a little searching. You install two Sims. One to receive an one to transmit. Check through Chinese electronic companies or even at Panthip center in Bangkok. Can't remember or find any direct links I had saved. If I find them I'll post them but you should find them before then. Thanks, will have a look around Pantip. Why are 2 SIM cards required? As a side note, DTAC prepaid SIM cards expire after 6 months, but you can extend the service for 2 baht/month, so a cheap solution. I never managed to extend DTAC prepaid sim cards, how do you do ? Thank you. *113* (number of days to request extension for) *9# (call button). You can increase up to one year, 2 baht for 1 month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 *113* does not work, the promotion was until 2010 and I tried it again now but still no result, the SMS that they send says that it failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopops Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Strange why the other 17 vehicles wern't reported stolen. Perhaps the "rental" period on the others is yet to expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 And why, pray tell, did they only monitor it for two days? Why not go there right away? It took two days to realise that they had the map upside down. The car was in a secure compound and police needed to find someone who could break into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Wonder if my lamborghini is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Right, I got that, but a phone seems to receive and transmit on just one SIM card, so still wondering, why 2 SIM cards. The device does many other things depending on what version you buy and how much money you spend for it. They run 3,000B and up. It is a very crude cell phone sending only SMS messages. You can monitor not only location but you can shut the engine off, listen to the people in the car if a microphone is installed, have a conversation with them, and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed. All that uses one SIM. Then you send commands to the device with the other SIM. You only need one SIM if you only need location and nothing else. Two SIM's if you want more features. It's just the way the electronics are set up and designed in order to keep the cost down. If you want to pay 20,000B+, then yes, only one SIM is needed because you are paying for the extra cell phone electronics and all the extras. Never seen one need 2 sims and cant imagine why ?? Data traffic and SMS can be handled on one sim just as simply (in fact simpler) than on 2. Unless one is a backup solution in case of failure of the first ?? But thats not what your describing. Any link to this 2 sim model ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 And why, pray tell, did they only monitor it for two days? Why not go there right away? It took two days to realise that they had the map upside down. The car was in a secure compound and police needed to find someone who could break into it. Had they lost their keys ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The device does many other things depending on what version you buy and how much money you spend for it. They run 3,000B and up. It is a very crude cell phone sending only SMS messages. You can monitor not only location but you can shut the engine off, listen to the people in the car if a microphone is installed, have a conversation with them, and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed. All that uses one SIM. Then you send commands to the device with the other SIM. You only need one SIM if you only need location and nothing else. Two SIM's if you want more features. It's just the way the electronics are set up and designed in order to keep the cost down. If you want to pay 20,000B+, then yes, only one SIM is needed because you are paying for the extra cell phone electronics and all the extras. "and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed" A pinhole camera? Don't think you'll find a SIM card in one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The device does many other things depending on what version you buy and how much money you spend for it. They run 3,000B and up. It is a very crude cell phone sending only SMS messages. You can monitor not only location but you can shut the engine off, listen to the people in the car if a microphone is installed, have a conversation with them, and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed. All that uses one SIM. Then you send commands to the device with the other SIM. You only need one SIM if you only need location and nothing else. Two SIM's if you want more features. It's just the way the electronics are set up and designed in order to keep the cost down. If you want to pay 20,000B+, then yes, only one SIM is needed because you are paying for the extra cell phone electronics and all the extras. "and even take pictures with a pin hole camera if one is installed" A pinhole camera? Don't think you'll find a SIM card in one of those! Its a separate security camera. Like one you would attach to your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I can't find the Chinese links that had the units I wanted to buy. I'll find them eventually but here are a few to mull over. You;ll find there are quiet a few different versions with prices and features to match. http://reviews.cnet.com/gps/trackport-gps-vehicle-tracker/4505-3490_7-35451248.htmlhttp://www.brickhousesecurity.com/product/trackport+gps+tracker.do?utm_source=ci&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=ci_product&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=34-128875972-2http://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Tracker-Remote-Control-Anti-theft/dp/B0095BJZ7O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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