Ozymandias Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Thaksin's attempt to threaten Yingluck with being thrown into prison yesterday so she ( he ) could cling on - was not a particularly brotherly thing to do. One assumes he doesn't have her welfare at heart, with such clap-trap. Press sources have indicated that she wanted to step down yesterday. But Thaksin ( yes, the man who PT supporters insist has nothing to do with this administration ) would have nothing of it. Chalerm has been a waste of space in every capacity he's been placed in. And no one on the planet has issued more empty threats than he, which none of the supporters of this administration take the slightest note of. So when others pose empty threats - well ! they must really mean it ! Get protection for Chalerm, quick ! When in fact, nothing of the kind will happen. And everyone knows it. The sad thing for Chalerm - is that after the administration has quietly stepped down, no one's going to be paying the slightest attention to him. This protest has had three distinct and consistent characteristic : Peaceful. Peaceful, Peaceful. The supporters of this administration really can't stand that. They can't eat their breakfast. And so it will remain a peaceful demonstration. No one will apprehend anyone. In this country particularly. Never happened, never will. But fear not. There is still time to pray for a stillborn parliament. Still time to pray for perpetual dissolution. For those who consider that just peachy, good for you. The rest of Thailand will carry on, however, blissfully waving flags as they are, blowing whistles, and beaming broadly for a country they believe can be free of corruption. Really? You write this in response to the news that Suthep is threatening to kidnap 5 cabinet ministers? Please tell me that you made a mistake and are on the wrong thread - otherwise, this is nothing but babble in the style of the Dear Leader himself. Then you write: This protest has had three distinct and consistent characteristic : Peaceful. Peaceful, Peaceful. I'm guessing then that you believe that Wednesday's planned takeover of the Stock Exchange will be a peaceful takeover. That the kidnappings now threatened will be peaceful kidnappings. That the threatened blockading of Thai air traffic control will be peaceful. And that any planes that are unable to land safely will crash peacefully. That the taxi driver rendered unconscious was beaten peacefully. That the bus torched in Ramkhamhaeng was burnt peacefully. That the coup that Suthep is desperately trying to force will be a peaceful one. Your naivety and gullibility are truly breathtaking. I am at this point assuming that you are 12 years old. Edited January 14, 2014 by Ozymandias 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Did I hear that right? Yep he wants kidnapping adding to the list of charges he already faces Let's see on the charges... Murder - check Insurrection - check Kidnapping - pending Not talking about all the civil charges (Defamation, etc) - though here defamation can be a criminal offence as well...... Is somebody bored enough to keep a list? Might be amusing.... Suthep didn't murder anyone you twit. And I will believe this kidnap lark when somebody provides a copy of a video clip of him saying it...Anyone.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep announces to hold cabinet ministers captive Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban announced Tuesday night to hold cabinet ministers captive starting from head of the Center for the Administration for Peace and Order (CAPO) Surapong Tovichakchaikul.He said protesters would block their houses and hold them captive and bring them to sit in the summer sun.He said Surapong, the foreign affairs minister and CAO head would be the first to be held captive, followed by Labor Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, Deputy Prime Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, Education Minister Jaturon Chaisaeng, ICT Minister Anudit Nakorntap, Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasob Suraswadee, and Pheu Thai party’s secretary-general Poomtham Vejayachai.He said these cabinet ministers are key persons who advised and encouraged the caretaker prime minister not to give up or yield to the demand of the protesters.The move was to paralyze the caretaker government, he said and vowed to block all offices which the government move in to work. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive -- Thai PBS 2014-01-14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep seems to have miscalculated in two respects. First off, he wants to close down government, largely by blockading government buildings. But he always announces what he is going to do a week or even two weeks in advance. This gives a largely static enemy enough time to react and make arrangements for skeleton service to continue. To be most effective, he needs to strike with speed and without warning. He could use his own storm troopers for the initial blockade and then supplement them with a rallying call to normal Thais. Secondly, he needs the support of normal Thais so that he has some weight of numbers and give credence to his claim to be acting for and on behalf of the people. But calls for violent criminal acts may alienate the very Thais from whom he needs support. As a possible wider issue, inciting violence against the government in general and against the Shinawatra family specifically, make it easier for Thaksins claims of his criminal conviction being politically motivated, to be given credence by western media. Not an immediate issue, but one that maybe useful to Mr T in the longer term. If Suthep wishes to preside over a revolutionary spring consisting of a peaceful uprising by the people, he should stick to that theme and avoid violence or calls for violence. He also needs a few more million people out on the streets. And please don't respond with facts, rumors and suppositions of what red shirts have done in the past. I am talking about the current situation, not past history. The problem with what you read in the Thai Media can be very twisted For example 1 Media said They are ready to kidnap member of parliment another said the will arrest them under people power so which one is correct I agree about the forward warnings But when you live in Thailand long enough you know this is the Thai way Police will raid Pattaya beach next tuesday looking for Lady boys Wednesday news Last night police crack down was a total success on ly 1 lady bot was arrested Thursday 236 Ladyboys back on the beach Bend with the wind my friend Do not fight it, it will drive you crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) It would appear that Suthep is now clutching at straws, the Bangkok shutdown while successfully shutting down areas of the city has not got him any closer to his goals. As long as the PTP and the police leave the protesters alone the movement losses momentum as protesters desert to go back to work and the people of Bangkok start to lose their patience. Now its a case of doing whatever they can to get the blood spilling for the coup Suthep has wanted from the beginning. Oh come on that is total bullshit ! Please stop spreading lies....He doesn't want violence or a coup because he knows it will just bring the red terrorists back. Edited January 14, 2014 by metisdead 30) Do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes, added emoticons, or altered wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 If the government says yes to a May election 70% of your protestor including my wife and her friend say they have what they want and come home Unfortunately there is the small thing in the constitution that mandates elections after parliment is dissolved. Therefore if there are no elections then present caretaker govt can be tossed into the monkey house. There is no way to get around this I am afraid, so elections will proceed and what happens happens. so if the dems signed documents to say they would oppose such charges being laid against Yingluck, she would agree /???? Ever hear of a song called DREAMING Or its her own brother who will lay the charges I think you should take your own advice with the song "Dreaming".... who would lay charges - jeez these clowns lay charges for looking the wrong way and you dont think if she stepped away they wouldnt try to stick it to her. Any rate elections will be held so this is a moot discussion. How about a 5,000 baht bet on this site in writing their will be no final election on Feb 2nd I agree to pay you if there is, how about your convictions ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep announces to hold cabinet ministers captive Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban announced Tuesday night to hold cabinet ministers captive starting from head of the Center for the Administration for Peace and Order (CAPO) Surapong Tovichakchaikul. He said protesters would block their houses and hold them captive and bring them to sit in the summer sun. He said Surapong, the foreign affairs minister and CAO head would be the first to be held captive, followed by Labor Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, Deputy Prime Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, Education Minister Jaturon Chaisaeng, ICT Minister Anudit Nakorntap, Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasob Suraswadee, and Pheu Thai party’s secretary-general Poomtham Vejayachai. He said these cabinet ministers are key persons who advised and encouraged the caretaker prime minister not to give up or yield to the demand of the protesters. The move was to paralyze the caretaker government, he said and vowed to block all offices which the government move in to work. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive -- Thai PBS 2014-01-14 He really should wear a hat or cap. He's been out in the sun so long it has addled his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It would appear that Suthep is now clutching at straws, the Bangkok shutdown while successfully shutting down areas of the city has not got him any closer to his goals. As long as the PTP and the police leave the protesters alone the movement losses momentum as protesters desert to go back to work and the people of Bangkok start to lose their patience. Now its a case of doing whatever they can to get the blood spilling for the coup Suthep has wanted from the beginning. Suthep IS getting to his goals. Yingluck has assigned her icecream gang to hold meetings with all parties concerned to see if the elections can be delayed. Now Suthep, strategically, is going for the next step. Suthep doesn't want a coup. He wants Yingluck to give in. The army also wants Yingluck to clean up her own mess. Thaksin wants a coup in order to blame the army for interfering with democracy. By the way, in case you were wondering, this is Yingluck's ice cream gang. Out of likes but I think you are spot on. I am getting so fed up of all the lies spread by the Sutheb haters as though they were facts. Just because they were elected it doesn't make their crimes legal and just because you have a biased opinion against someone, it doesn't make it fact.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Can this guy say and do whatever he wants or is the government/military going to step in? Kidnap government officials, seriously? A couple of days ago a red lunatic threatened to kidnap the 2 girls of the army chief "dead or alive". Yesterday the reds put a 500,000B bounty on Suthep's head Ask yourself the same question Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app This guy is the leader of this party, the reds are not. If the PM said this, then you would have a leg to stand on. Suthep is not a leader of any party Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It would appear that Suthep is now clutching at straws, the Bangkok shutdown while successfully shutting down areas of the city has not got him any closer to his goals. As long as the PTP and the police leave the protesters alone the movement losses momentum as protesters desert to go back to work and the people of Bangkok start to lose their patience. Now its a case of doing whatever they can to get the blood spilling for the coup Suthep has wanted from the beginning. Suthep IS getting to his goals. Yingluck has assigned her icecream gang to hold meetings with all parties concerned to see if the elections can be delayed. Now Suthep, strategically, is going for the next step. Suthep doesn't want a coup. He wants Yingluck to give in. The army also wants Yingluck to clean up her own mess. Thaksin wants a coup in order to blame the army for interfering with democracy. By the way, in case you were wondering, this is Yingluck's ice cream gang. Out of likes but I think you are spot on. I am getting so fed up of all the lies spread by the Sutheb haters as though they were facts. Just because they were elected it doesn't make their crimes legal and just because you have a biased opinion against someone, it doesn't make it fact.... Looks like the woman on the right is used to holding more in her hands than an ice cream. Ooer!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep didn't murder anyone you twit. And I will believe this kidnap lark when somebody provides a copy of a video clip of him saying it...Anyone.....? Nice timing. Any comments now that this is posted? Suthep announces to hold cabinet ministers captive Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban announced Tuesday night to hold cabinet ministers captive starting from head of the Center for the Administration for Peace and Order (CAPO) Surapong Tovichakchaikul. He said protesters would block their houses and hold them captive and bring them to sit in the summer sun. He said Surapong, the foreign affairs minister and CAO head would be the first to be held captive, followed by Labor Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, Deputy Prime Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, Education Minister Jaturon Chaisaeng, ICT Minister Anudit Nakorntap, Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasob Suraswadee, and Pheu Thai party’s secretary-general Poomtham Vejayachai. He said these cabinet ministers are key persons who advised and encouraged the caretaker prime minister not to give up or yield to the demand of the protesters. The move was to paralyze the caretaker government, he said and vowed to block all offices which the government move in to work. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep announces to hold cabinet ministers captive Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban announced Tuesday night to hold cabinet ministers captive starting from head of the Center for the Administration for Peace and Order (CAPO) Surapong Tovichakchaikul. He said protesters would block their houses and hold them captive and bring them to sit in the summer sun. He said Surapong, the foreign affairs minister and CAO head would be the first to be held captive, followed by Labor Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, Deputy Prime Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, Education Minister Jaturon Chaisaeng, ICT Minister Anudit Nakorntap, Deputy Prime Minister Plodprasob Suraswadee, and Pheu Thai party’s secretary-general Poomtham Vejayachai. He said these cabinet ministers are key persons who advised and encouraged the caretaker prime minister not to give up or yield to the demand of the protesters. The move was to paralyze the caretaker government, he said and vowed to block all offices which the government move in to work. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=suthep-announces-hold-cabinet-minister-captive -- Thai PBS 2014-01-14 Whilst generally i am a supporter of this movement, i think this announcement/move is idiotic, crazy and is likely to see this movement crumble and fail. Wrong move Suthep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Out of likes but I think you are spot on. I am getting so fed up of all the lies spread by the Sutheb haters as though they were facts. Just because they were elected it doesn't make their crimes legal and just because you have a biased opinion against someone, it doesn't make it fact.... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/696581-suthep-threatens-to-capture-five-caretaker-cabinet-members-pheu-thai-secretary-general/page-12?p=7291287#entry7291287 Served... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ajaan Posted January 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Amazing there is still support for Suthep here from TV members. You think he has said and done more than enough for men in white coats to come a and take him away and then he STILL manages something even more outrageous. It's simple...it's because Suthep (and his followers) are anti-empowerment of the poor, and classist...they don't want "their" share of the pie to go to the "dumb dark poor people," not one bit of it. Many of the farangs on TV share similar right wing racist, classist views, hence their support of the jerk no matter how ridiculous he gets. Edited January 14, 2014 by Ajaan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) A "lost" bullit (?!)in the head took that redshirt military colonel" seadang" out for much less than this..by unrest in 2010., double standards ?? no not in Thailand .... .(people around him stayed untouched ...) Edited January 14, 2014 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 the idea is to intimidate them and strike fear into their hearts like all good dictators do ,then parade them on TV as having changed sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Can this guy say and do whatever he wants or is the government/military going to step in? Kidnap government officials, seriously? A couple of days ago a red lunatic threatened to kidnap the 2 girls of the army chief "dead or alive". Yesterday the reds put a 500,000B bounty on Suthep's head Ask yourself the same question Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app This guy is the leader of this party, the reds are not. If the PM said this, then you would have a leg to stand on. That red leader writing threats on his FB page have to be prosecuted as now also Suthep has to be too. Threating phisically member of government wasn't a smart move... Edited January 14, 2014 by newcomer71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnathan Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 suthep has now shown what a thug he really is. a disgrace to the thai people. also he acts like a child . if things do not go his way he goes home and takes his bat and ball with him.!!!!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why would anyone want those 4 for anything? For gross incompetence, corruption, mismanagement and theft amongst other charges. Jeez: incompetence, corruption, greed, mismanagement, theft, lies are standard human genes, 100% of mankind have them. jail every human being??? Are you excusing them because they are human? It's an opened ended question that you really can't answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep didn't murder anyone you twit. And I will believe this kidnap lark when somebody provides a copy of a video clip of him saying it...Anyone.....? Just turn on the telly - it's the top story on most news channels - with subtitles in English on Channel News Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Some guy in Laos just watched a protest speech rerun in the hotel lobby and shaking his head said " Thais are baaa maak " under the heading featured at the moment http://www.channelnewsasia.com/ Edited January 14, 2014 by englishoak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep didn't murder anyone you twit. And I will believe this kidnap lark when somebody provides a copy of a video clip of him saying it...Anyone.....? Just turn on the telly - it's the top story on most news channels - with subtitles in English on Channel News Asia. other International news also distributed it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 An attempt to derail the discussion back to the events of 2010 has been removed. Let's stay on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thailand protests: an on-stage duel http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695 C4 news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlatersParrot Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep seems to have miscalculated in two respects. First off, he wants to close down government, largely by blockading government buildings. But he always announces what he is going to do a week or even two weeks in advance. This gives a largely static enemy enough time to react and make arrangements for skeleton service to continue. To be most effective, he needs to strike with speed and without warning. He could use his own storm troopers for the initial blockade and then supplement them with a rallying call to normal Thais. Secondly, he needs the support of normal Thais so that he has some weight of numbers and give credence to his claim to be acting for and on behalf of the people. But calls for violent criminal acts may alienate the very Thais from whom he needs support. As a possible wider issue, inciting violence against the government in general and against the Shinawatra family specifically, make it easier for Thaksins claims of his criminal conviction being politically motivated, to be given credence by western media. Not an immediate issue, but one that maybe useful to Mr T in the longer term. If Suthep wishes to preside over a revolutionary spring consisting of a peaceful uprising by the people, he should stick to that theme and avoid violence or calls for violence. He also needs a few more million people out on the streets. And please don't respond with facts, rumors and suppositions of what red shirts have done in the past. I am talking about the current situation, not past history. The problem with what you read in the Thai Media can be very twisted For example 1 Media said They are ready to kidnap member of parliment another said the will arrest them under people power so which one is correct I agree about the forward warnings But when you live in Thailand long enough you know this is the Thai way Police will raid Pattaya beach next tuesday looking for Lady boys Wednesday news Last night police crack down was a total success on ly 1 lady bot was arrested Thursday 236 Ladyboys back on the beach Bend with the wind my friend Do not fight it, it will drive you crazy More balanced reporting of an unbalanced mind Thailand protests: an on-stage duel http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695 C4 news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 An attempt to derail the discussion back to the events of 2010 has been removed. Let's stay on this topic. Please no more derailments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 An attempt to derail the discussion back to the events of 2010 has been removed. Let's stay on this topic. Sorry about that... won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeincnx Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Suthep is not a leader of any party Now that is, by far, is the most cogent statement yet on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thailand protests: an on-stage duel http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695 C4 news the unedited version is even funnier, you can see Dr Seri getting more and more annoyed when asked a simple logical question, and the bit about corruption being endemic and his reply saying yes but its too much....He almost sounds jealous. LOL serves Thailand right for encouraging corruption so much then ... a corrupt system will always breed ever more corrupt players... excellent link thanks for the giggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Red shirts and Taksin have taught him all to well if you recall red shirts trying to kill Abahist when he was PM while he was in his car or where they only trying to kidnap him I like it and agree 100% this government deserves nothing and i mean nothing and as saying goes hanging is to good for them for what they have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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