State of Emergency in Bangkok: Public gatherings banned

[englishoak]

Interesting how Yingluck has released her lapdog Chalerm to enforce this. He is blood-thirsty and equally as nuts as Suthep. She must be desperate now.

I suspect Chalerm was chosen exactly for that reason, Suthep would know hes not the only one prepared to use the SOE as he did in 2010... however, and i hope this bit to be true..... Chalerm is i think on a short leash and unlike the Suthep and Abhisit relationship where Suthep is and was in 2010 clearly dominant Chalerm is not .... i hope ,,, and i really do mean hope that Chalerm is kept on that leash for everyones sake.

[noikrit]

So now not more then 4 on a Motobike ?????? .....

[ratcatcher]

Interesting how Yingluck has released her lapdog Chalerm to enforce this. He is blood-thirsty and equally as nuts as Suthep. She must be desperate now.

I think "lap dog" is a bit mild for the likes of Suthep, he's more like a pit-bull.

Lap dog might be more appropriate for her cousin Surapong.

[badmedicine]

No gathering or more than 4?

Schools out?

[belg]

lets annonce something and not inforce it, 5555555555555555555

thainesssssssssssssss

[Nowhereman60]

No more 5 on 5 basketball games, but 4 on 4 is ok.

[reflectionx]

No more 5 on 5 basketball games, but 4 on 4 is ok.

Actually more like 2 on 2 and no referee!

Sent via the app thingy

[eggers]

Why the change of name, Centre for maintaining Peace & Order (CMPO) from Centre for administration of Peace & Order (CAPO)???

With Charmer Chalerm as head; it's a bit like appointing an arsonist as the Fire Chief!

[Crushdepth]

Interesting how Yingluck has released her lapdog Chalerm to enforce this. He is blood-thirsty and equally as nuts as Suthep. She must be desperate now.

Chalerm has a much better nut job score than that rank amateur Suthep. He can only aspire to reach Jatuporn's level though.

[Crushdepth]

No more 5 on 5 basketball games, but 4 on 4 is ok.

I am sorry to inform you that it's 2 on 2. Please report to the nearest police station.

[promatrix]

My wife and I have three sons.

Can we not all go out together?

... and this, counting only one wife

[Nowhereman60]

No more 5 on 5 basketball games, but 4 on 4 is ok.

I am sorry to inform you that it's 2 on 2. Please report to the nearest police station.

Two groups of 4. Instead of challenging me try to get your other id back Crushdepth1

[klauskunkel]

Yingluck, who is also the defence minister, urged the Armed Forces to take good care of their weapons and ensure they would not be stolen during this time of high political tensions

"Just treat your weapons like I treat my handbags...I always know where they are and have never had one stolen, ever!"

[chrisinth]

NongKhaiKid, on 24 Jan 2014 - 06:39, said:

Public gatherings are banned yet Chalerm says no attempts will be made to disperse protesters ?

The focus will be on arresting protest leaders but has he not noticed they tend to be surrounded by lots of followers who I suppose will simply part like the Red Sea and allow arrests to take place.

The government may have decided not to provoke a reaction by a Softly Softly approach but if they want that to work they have appointed to wrong man to run policing the emergency decree because if anyone can start a civil war ... !

Yeah, that confused me as well, but note 1 in the State of Emergency Measures in the OP reads:

"No gatherings of five or more people in areas marked out by the CMPO are allowed. People can only gather for legal demonstrations and elections. Actions inciting disorder are banned"

Which may be, as suggested before, directed towards the rice farmers. Question is, will it also be directed at any red gatherings? That could work against any support hoped to be gained.

Edit: Even that statement is not correct as even though the protests remain peaceful, the speakers messages are loaded with incitement.

News stories and comments like this are frustrating. "Speakers messages are loaded with incitement." What did they say exactly? Of course I realize that I have to rely on translations and how accurate the translator is.

I would note that speakers messages are loaded with incitement has got to be true. Otherwise why speak? The question would be are they inciting people to read more, be better parents, eater healthier, examine the issues critically, or to burn down Central World?

Oh well.

That was my point exactly, if the speaker wasn't inciting the crowd (any speaker, any crowd) then what would be the point of him/her being there?

[gemini81]

Under emergency decree, caretaker govt bans gatherings of 5, or more people /The Nation

Well done inept dictatorship...your insecurity is well warranted for all the bad things you have all done.

[promatrix]

Why the change of name, Centre for maintaining Peace & Order (CMPO) from Centre for administration of Peace & Order (CAPO)???

With Charmer Chalerm as head; it's a bit like appointing an arsonist as the Fire Chief!

Chalerm is more likely to be head of CAPOK

[Baerboxer]

Chinese tour groups could be in for a rough ride.....

On a serious note, I have wondered whether the timing of this is related to the Phichit farmers saying they are heading to Bangkok to protest.

I don't think the SOE has much to do with a few Phichit farmers somehow

The timing could just be coincidental. I think the SOE is more likely to do with the scheduled election and any fall out resulting from it. The extra powers it gives can be invoked if necessary.

My farmer relatives and their friends and neighbors in Isaan are still waiting to be paid, and many are really suffering badly and rightly incensed. However, ask them who they will vote for ............ The PTP political machine is very effective, they don't have access or use social media, and most importantly. they don't feel they have any credible alternative. Better the devil you know.

[SouthernMan3]

Chinese tour groups could be in for a rough ride.....

On a serious note, I have wondered whether the timing of this is related to the Phichit farmers saying they are heading to Bangkok to protest.

I don't think the SOE has much to do with a few Phichit farmers somehow

Why? If you think about it, farmers are their traditional support, and once one lot come, others may be encouraged to do so. They'll then have even more groups of people against them.

And here I was just thinking that your name englishoak had something to do with the hardness of your head and you have surprised me with an intelligent comment.

Right on !

[SouthernMan3]

My wife and I have three sons.

Can we not all go out together?

We have 4 children and my mother in law.

That doesn't include my workers.

Are we breaking the law at supper time ?

[gemini81]

Why the change of name, Centre for maintaining Peace & Order (CMPO) from Centre for administration of Peace & Order (CAPO)???

With Charmer Chalerm as head; it's a bit like appointing an arsonist as the Fire Chief!

Chalerm is more likely to be head of CAPOK

Or AA Thailand, if he ever recovers.

[webfact]

Yingluck issues tough order to reinforce state of emergency
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, Jan 24 – Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has signed a six-point order prohibiting varied public activities during the Emergency Decree in Bangkok and outlying areas.

According to the order, public gatherings of more than five people or instigation of unrest in the emergency zones are banned while the media is prohibited from presenting, selling or distributing distorted news that could jeopardise national security, public order and public morality.

Authorities in charge are empowered to restrict the use of certain roads, transport, and buildings.

People will be ordered to move out of, or barred from entering, declared areas for their safety.

To effectively enforce the order, the leader of responsible authorities, or the newly-formed Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO), will announce orders in advance to avoid inconvenience of the public.

Ms Yingluck has told the CMPO not to over-exercise its power and try to negotiate with protesters to avoid a repetition of the 2010 violence.

She said after chairing the Defence Council meeting that protesters should respect the rights and freedom of other people, adding that she did not want to be chased. Ms Yingluck is concurrently caretaker defence minister.

She said military and police personnel will work together in the peace-keeping mission and asked for cooperation from the chiefs of the armed forces.

“The Cabinet and I have instructed CMPO authorities to be extra cautious and abide by the law in their exercise. Chiefs of the armed forces were told to cooperate with the Election Commission in organising the general election, if requested, especially in the South,” said Ms Yingluck.

Regarding an announcement by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) to chase the caretaker prime minister, she said everyone has the rights to individual freedom and protesters should respect the rights.

“Nobody wants to be chased daily. The government is willing to talk. Please avoid intimidation or creating hatred. It’s time we turn to each other for talks. The government is ready to open a forum wherever or whenever it is,” she said.

She added, “Nobody wants to encounter such an incident. Please respect my rights and freedom. There has never been a prime minister who is treated like this.

“I’ve been patient and want sympathy from protesters. I’m willing to do whatever I can, for I’m not stubborn. However, we are not empowered by the law to do what you’ve asked.”

She said the invocation of the Emergency Decree was not meant to challenge protesters but it would become the authorities’ tool in carrying out their duties. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-01-24

[SouthernMan3]

"2. News reports and distribution of newspapers and other publications carrying distorted information or facts that might cause panic, affect peace and order or good morals are not allowed."

Wow, so only news reports acceptable from the Government. North Korea style media at its best. So, if some corruption deals get exposed, it won't be reported, if a red shirt causes violence it won't be reported. Any anti Government reports won't be reported.

If Suthep or the anti Government protesters do something bad, it will be reported.

​What a fair democracy that is. People really don't realise how corrupt and power hungry this Government really are.

Well said.

Thank you

[Baerboxer]

"2. News reports and distribution of newspapers and other publications carrying distorted information or facts that might cause panic, affect peace and order or good morals are not allowed."

Wow, so only news reports acceptable from the Government. North Korea style media at its best. So, if some corruption deals get exposed, it won't be reported, if a red shirt causes violence it won't be reported. Any anti Government reports won't be reported.

If Suthep or the anti Government protesters do something bad, it will be reported.

​What a fair democracy that is. People really don't realise how corrupt and power hungry this Government really are.

Think your missing something here, they didnt write the SOE its already there and was used most effectively and to the full by the Dems in 2010. So far there is nothing like that in any of the orders nor are they being implemented with force or policed as such again unlike 2010 though things can change of course. Stay tuned

The current caretaker government have been very careful to avoid the use of violent force throughout this protest so far (let's avoid the speculation about who is responsible for this shooting and that bombing). They have pointed out, and very specifically to the international community, that this approach will be continued.

There may be a whole myriad of reasons for this, from lacking military support, to wanting international acceptance should they be returned to government in a future election.

At least they haven't reacted like the Ukraine government which has simply created more violence. Having spats, threatening one another with law suits here and there, and both sides accusing one another of corruption whilst disrespecting the law is one thing. Provoking violence against the people, however you do it, is quite different.

[Baerboxer]

"2. News reports and distribution of newspapers and other publications carrying distorted information or facts that might cause panic, affect peace and order or good morals are not allowed."

Wow, so only news reports acceptable from the Government. North Korea style media at its best. So, if some corruption deals get exposed, it won't be reported, if a red shirt causes violence it won't be reported. Any anti Government reports won't be reported.

If Suthep or the anti Government protesters do something bad, it will be reported.

​What a fair democracy that is. People really don't realise how corrupt and power hungry this Government really are.

Well said.

Thank you

We shall see how this is implemented. If all negative comments about PTP, it's dominant family, the NACC probes and other similar issues are suppressed in the media then your comments will indeed be spot on.

The Courts have declared the SOE illegal, saying the caretaker government don't have authority to do that. Whether that's sensible or not is immaterial - it's the judges interpretation of the law, and their ruling. So why should anyone, protesters, media companies, journalists actually abide by the rules announced?

Is it legal, or are the caretaker government simply claiming it's legal? Can anyone in this country actually make a decision?

[Ricardo]

Yingluck issues tough order to reinforce state of emergency

... "and if you still keep ignoring my SOE, I'll cry at my next appearance, and stamp my foot", she threatened before turning away, and smirking to her aides.

Edited January 24, 2014 by Ricardo

[richard10365]

I think "State of Emergency Measure" number two applies to ThaiVisa as well.

"2. News reports and distribution of newspapers and other publications carrying distorted information or facts that might cause panic, affect peace and order or good morals are not allowed."

[SouthernMan3]

"2. News reports and distribution of newspapers and other publications carrying distorted information or facts that might cause panic, affect peace and order or good morals are not allowed."

Wow, so only news reports acceptable from the Government. North Korea style media at its best. So, if some corruption deals get exposed, it won't be reported, if a red shirt causes violence it won't be reported. Any anti Government reports won't be reported.

If Suthep or the anti Government protesters do something bad, it will be reported.

​What a fair democracy that is. People really don't realise how corrupt and power hungry this Government really are.

Well said.

Thank you

We shall see how this is implemented. If all negative comments about PTP, it's dominant family, the NACC probes and other similar issues are suppressed in the media then your comments will indeed be spot on.

The Courts have declared the SOE illegal, saying the caretaker government don't have authority to do that. Whether that's sensible or not is immaterial - it's the judges interpretation of the law, and their ruling. So why should anyone, protesters, media companies, journalists actually abide by the rules announced?

Is it legal, or are the caretaker government simply claiming it's legal? Can anyone in this country actually make a decision?

Yes.

The reform before vote people have definitely made a decision and made it known !

[bangarang]

"Chalerm says authorities will now focus on arresting the protest leaders"

Good luck in doing that. Im sure if that were to happen things will get out of hand.

[PaulHamon]

She added, “Nobody wants to encounter such an incident. Please respect my rights and freedom. There has never been a prime minister who is treated like this.

didn't think she was prime minister anymore?

[Crushdepth]

No more 5 on 5 basketball games, but 4 on 4 is ok.

I am sorry to inform you that it's 2 on 2. Please report to the nearest police station.

Two groups of 4. Instead of challenging me try to get your other id back Crushdepth1

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