webfact Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Lopburi farmers lodge complaints of rice fraud to policeBANGKOK: -- Rice farmers in Lopburi province yesterday marched to the police station in the town of Lopburi to file rice fraud cases to the police after they are not paid for over four months.They told the police that a total of 1,293 farmers have sold rice under the rice-pledging scheme of the government worth about 203 million baht. But until yesterday or over four months now that they still are not paid.They said they decided to lodge complaints to the police to keep their rice voucher and statue of limitation to file legal case against the government valid.Farmers said they wanted the government to pay them immediately.Lopburi police chief was on hand to facilitate farmers to lodge complaints and asked them not to blockade highway.He also told farmers that he would urge relevant government agencies to speed up payment to them.In Phitsanulok, farmers still blockaded Indochina intersection to pressure speed payment by the government.The police also are providing security measure to farmer leader Chatree Ampol who was life threatened if he did not remove the blockade.A local police chief, however, assured farmers that they have the right to protest and would protect farmers from threats or harassment.In Nakhon Sawan, farmers from five districts also gathered in front of Chaophraya university demanded immediate payment after having been rejected and postponed many times.They said they will blockade Phaholyothin highway within the next few days if their demands are not met within this week. The blockade will paralyze traffic from the central region to the North.In Tak province, farmers from 9 districts with rice vouchers also filed complaints to local authorities. More than 1,000 farmers have registered in the complaint documents.Meanwhile, northern farmer association leader Prasit Boonchoey said farmers now are joining together for massive protest after it was clear now the caretaker government could never get money to pay farmers.He said the 20-billion baht loan securing attempt by the government two days before the general election kicks off was just to lure farmers into thinking that it will pay them and then encourage them to go to the poll.He said farmers would never listen to such tactics but would now consult action to join anti-government protest in the capital.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/lopburi-farmers-lodge-complaints-rice-fraud-police/ -- Thai PBS 2014-01-31 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Good luck with that, boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 "A local police chief, however, assured farmers that they have the right to protest and would protect farmers from threats or harassment." Riiiiiiiight! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) The Red Shirt enforcers are going to be working overtime to "Calm" these pissed off farmers/former PTP supporters. Edited January 31, 2014 by dcutman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBerg Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Wasn't today the day for nationwide mass demonstrations by the red shirts in support of the caretaker government and elections on Sunday? Indeed it seems many reds are turning up. Edited January 31, 2014 by EricBerg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) As myself and many others here on TV predicted, the rice scam will end in a trail of tears. It is sort of interesting to see it unravel. But the real fun will start when a new government takes over, and the money trail will be tracked. Now that will be REALLY interesting to see where the money went to. Clearly it was not the farmers..... :-) I generally do not delight in the misery of others, as that is the action of a twisted person. But there sure does seem to be a bit of comeuppance here, or as the Thai say som nam na. Voting for Thasin clones for 500 baht and a handful of empty promises sure has not worked out well for the farmers in the bastion of red shirts, Isan.... Edited January 31, 2014 by EyesWideOpen 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spirit47 Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 Nobody there for collect money for a helping fund to preserve more suicide rice farmers, for their children to pay school, for food and clothes? Yinluck, what about you? Shame for them, shame for Thailand. Resign, and this will be solved by an interims PM ... Murder! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 Rice farmers in Lopburi province yesterday marched to the police station in the town of Lopburi to file rice fraud cases to the police So to get this right. Thaksins scheme failed. Rice farmers complain to Thaksins little helpers to ask that they file legal proceedings. Not going to happen. Thaksin will just have to ensure that the constitution is amended next time to ensure those pesky voters become inconsequential. Until that happens send Red Shirts into intimidate them and threaten their families. What a swell form of democracy this is. Tell the farmers about the road of lies leading up to this day where the voice of the majority are held in contempt. Thaksins govt lied 5 days as well as 1 month and 8 days after the first rice payments were not paid by saying they had the money and YES it was in the budget. To reiterate, the PTP said twice on the 9th of October and the 12th of November that they had the money to pay the farmers until the end of February. Now, once more for the gullible. The rice farmers have not been paid since the 4th of October. On October 9 ( 60 days before dissolution of the PTP ) and 12th of November ( 27 days before dissolution of the PTP ) the PTP said they had the money for the rice scheme up until the end of February. They said don't worry. They said they didn't need any help from anyone. They do not need any loans. PTP were right, everyone else including IMF and World Bank were wrong. 1 day after the dissolution they apparently needed help and it is the EC's fault for not giving to them when even they banks don't want to give them loans. So it is the EC's and all the banks fault. Yingluck will "wai" you on FB when she needs your vote. Her brother will f*kc you for the next 4 years. What a tag team. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 "give us our money" "but we have no money left to give you" "does not matter, give us our money now" "we cannot give you what we do not have" "does not matter, give us our money" "who is on first" "exactly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellwell Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 All we need now is for a handful of farmers or farmer leaders to be murdered by the brain dead thugs of the UDD and that will definitely be the end of Thaksin and hopefully the UDD and the Al Qaida in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Lopburi farmers lodge complaints of rice fraud to police Be careful that you and your families don't get threatened by mysterious snipers from RED... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. ^I know it's true cos I wrote it on TV. Apologies to JC Fogerty. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition law. Edited January 31, 2014 by Mosha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ramrod711 Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. What power did the opposition have to block payments? The government lied, Kittirat especially so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. Meaning......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theslime Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. Whats so complex about having a Dud Scam, Troll on slivery moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonneke breda Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The PT has just broken the backbone of their supporters and the economic backbone of the nation. If there are clever people under the Democrats or newly to be formed political parties, i would advice them to buy a lot of rice seeds, fertilizer and other farmer supplies and help out as many farmers as you can help, to prove to this poor lads that they and the Bangkokians do care about them. This wil also be for sure the last time that the Thaksin clan has the majority of the voters in some of the rural areas. But if the rich, the elite, the Dem's and the reformers fail to give the farmers support now that they need it, there might be another PT- related group that will go running with this rural votes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Good luck to all the farmers. Hope your complaints are duly noted. I bet their addresses were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GeorgeO Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. What power did the opposition have to block payments? The government lied, Kittirat especially so. Absolutely correct, and it really does get quite boring to have to keep going over this. It seemingly doesn't matter how many times this is spelled out to the apologists, including actual dates; they continue to argue that payments have been blocked by every one, so the blame is on everyone except themselves. They had over two months before the dissolution of parliament to make these payments, they said they had the money, but nothing happened. Now please, please, please will you blinkered apologists stop spouting all this nonsense about how it's not their fault. IT IS their fault, and no-one else's...!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wprime Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 "A local police chief, however, assured farmers that they have the right to protest and would protect farmers from threats or harassment." Riiiiiiiight! You can bet they will, Lopburi is not a red stronghold and the local police are very protective of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 " He said the 20-billion baht loan securing attempt by the government two days before the general election kicks off was just to lure farmers into thinking that it will pay them and then encourage them to go to the poll. " They figured it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Red Shirt enforcers are going to be working overtime to "Calm" these pissed off farmers/former PTP supporters. It seems the latest now is that these red wan_kers go and intimidate the wives and families of the farmers to do it the red way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Lopburi farmers lodge complaints of rice fraud to police Yes, this will help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 ......good luck..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney R Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. What power did the opposition have to block payments? The government lied, Kittirat especially so. Absolutely correct, and it really does get quite boring to have to keep going over this. It seemingly doesn't matter how many times this is spelled out to the apologists, including actual dates; they continue to argue that payments have been blocked by every one, so the blame is on everyone except themselves. They had over two months before the dissolution of parliament to make these payments, they said they had the money, but nothing happened. Now please, please, please will you blinkered apologists stop spouting all this nonsense about how it's not their fault. IT IS their fault, and no-one else's...!! Wait wait it's not the governments,opposition OR the EC's fault the payments haven't been made it's now the Thai banks fault for not giving the money they need to pay as was quoted today "the poor farmers " . And next week it will be the international banking fraternity and the week after the blame will be once again laid at someone else's doorstep . Yes all smoke and mirrors but the Fact and it is an absolute fact that payments were meant to be made in October while Yingluck was the leader of a legal government ,the payments were not paid the rest is as quoted smoke and mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. Are you on medication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is more complex than it seems. There is a lot of smoke. There are a lot of mirrors. Payments have been obstructed by the opposition. The government side also has many people who skimmed off the top, middle and bottom. There are no heroes in this. There is a lot of heroin in it from the golden triangle, but no heroines. There is a lot of 'truthiness' in this, but very little truth. Think. It hurts to think sometimes. Experience self-doubt. Dwell on facts balanced between ego and opposition. Rotate your tires. Re-hydrate hourly. Never play cards with a man called Jack, or play snooker with a man called Slim. You will lose. Are you on medication? It's for his ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Looking forward to that forensic audit, follow the money I say. Don't stop there look at the corruption and pay offs by all political parties/ all politicians at all levels of government. When that is done start looking at the police and military. Years and years of work for the accountants. Have whistle blower payouts to encourage the information on all government contracts. The rice scheme is huge and in the news daily but how about the clocks and coffee tables. Lets look at them all. Send the guilty to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Rice farmers in Lopburi province yesterday marched to the police station in the town of Lopburi to file rice fraud cases to the police So to get this right. Thaksins scheme failed. Rice farmers complain to Thaksins little helpers to ask that they file legal proceedings. Not going to happen. Thaksin will just have to ensure that the constitution is amended next time to ensure those pesky voters become inconsequential. Until that happens send Red Shirts into intimidate them and threaten their families. What a swell form of democracy this is. Tell the farmers about the road of lies leading up to this day where the voice of the majority are held in contempt. Thaksins govt lied 5 days as well as 1 month and 8 days after the first rice payments were not paid by saying they had the money and YES it was in the budget. To reiterate, the PTP said twice on the 9th of October and the 12th of November that they had the money to pay the farmers until the end of February. Now, once more for the gullible. The rice farmers have not been paid since the 4th of October. On October 9 ( 60 days before dissolution of the PTP ) and 12th of November ( 27 days before dissolution of the PTP ) the PTP said they had the money for the rice scheme up until the end of February. They said don't worry. They said they didn't need any help from anyone. They do not need any loans. PTP were right, everyone else including IMF and World Bank were wrong. 1 day after the dissolution they apparently needed help and it is the EC's fault for not giving to them when even they banks don't want to give them loans. So it is the EC's and all the banks fault. Yingluck will "wai" you on FB when she needs your vote. Her brother will f*kc you for the next 4 years. What a tag team. Thanks for a post with specifics. Even better would have been news article references. However this matches my recollection of articles, so I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prvtdetdave Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 All we need now is for a handful of farmers or farmer leaders to be murdered by the brain dead thugs of the UDD and that will definitely be the end of Thaksin and hopefully the UDD and the Al Qaida in red. What an assinine comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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