Suthep: PDRC member involved in Laksi shooting

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Suthep: PDRC member involved in Laksi shooting

BANGKOK, 3 February 2014 (NNT) - People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader Suthep Thaugsuban has admitted that one of those involved in the Laksi shooting on Saturday is a member of the PDRC.

During a speech to his supporters last night, Mr Suthep verified that two shooters wearing green arm bands are PDRC members. He urged his supporters to refrain from carrying weapons into the rally sites as violence had repeatedly escalated into gunfire.

He added that members of the public who wished to join the rally would need to register their names with the guard in a bid to better identify their members.

Mr Suthep insisted, however, that men in black who were spotted at the scene are not with the PDRC and suspected they are professional gunmen.

Police continue to probe into the incident which left several people injured. Police have so far accused the PDRC guards of starting the shoot-out.


-- NNT 2014-02-03

[BlueNoseCodger]

They shot 6 people! Hand them over, especially pop-corn bag man.

The weapons came in on a van seen with PDRC marches before, so hand in the weapons for forensic and the van!

Hand over the bomberman, we have his picture, we have video showing he is with the same group.

The man with the white balaclava seen with the gunman group, hand him over,

Everyone of these:

Hand them over.

[BlueNoseCodger]

Another shot of white-balaclava man, with his side bag and his walkie talkie, (=long finger man??)

Added: this is the group coming from off the bridge after the first set of bombs were thrown at the pro-democracy protestors.

Take a look at this man in particular with the side bag and the long fingers.

Edited February 3, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[BlueNoseCodger]

Hand over the whole group with their walkie talkies too for questioning.

And Buddha issara seems to have one:

And these lots

Edited February 3, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[Red Snake]

Police respond: I told you so, I told you so.

[londonthai]

It was just one, that with the broken gun. Honest. They were not paid by me, maybe mr t, i just don't know yet. Maybe ask my pal, the revered monk bugha issara, he will shed some devine line on it?

O, and what about 80 cambodians? They look exactly like khmers

Edited February 3, 2014 by londonthai

[Suriya4]

Why Suthep dare not ban all guard to NOT cover their face. Is this too much to ask?

He dare not.

The reason he admit to one guy, is because he is clearly identified.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Suriya4

[jonclark]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

[gerry1011]

After all the violence that occurred because of Suthep, it may be time now for the whole country to protest to eradicate Suthep and his criminal supporters from the country.

And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

These mobs were in the streets clearly to create unrest and send Thailand to the abyss.

Sent from my iPhone...

[Suriya4]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

If Ko Tee is there, why no photo?

[Red Snake]

That guy was no typical guard. He was well trained in using that weapon to kill.

[Artisi]

Why is it the red supporters can go around shooting, bombing and creating mayhem without too many worries, but as soon as PDRC member discharges a firearm (for what ever reason) all the TV reds jump on the band-wagon with pictures, accusations and the usual nonsense demanding police involvement, arrests etc., but awfully quiet when its the reds involved. and what seems to be the BIG problem with walkie -talkies.

Give it a break reds, find something constructive to discuss.

[BlueNoseCodger]

Another shot of white-balaclava man, with his side bag and his walkie talkie, (=long finger man??)

Added: this is the group coming from off the bridge after the first set of bombs were thrown at the pro-democracy protestors.

Take a look at this man in particular with the side bag and the long fingers.

Here's another shot, with his sandals, there's a photo I've seen that's much higher res than this video shot, I'm looking for it now.

Note in the top picture his face is almost visible through the cloth covering his face.

Edited February 3, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[than]

Ooooh I don't know there are a lot of CSI expert on this forum

Edited February 3, 2014 by than

[ManopY]

That guy was no typical guard. He was well trained in using that weapon to kill.

That is truth! Those guys are very well trained and are experts!

BUT NO ONE WAS KILLED!!!

Not like with the Reds!

As the Police are clearly with the reds, everyone have the right to protect himself!

Edited February 3, 2014 by ManopY

[Scamper]

Suthep's statement is very important - and is almost without precedent for truthfulness among political leaders - because he is admitting the involvement of one PDRC member. It gives further credence, though to what he claims - that there were other agitating elements. In light of all the attacks that have gone before against the PDRC, that seems much more credible. We can be rest assured, however, that this will be met with deaf ears from the police, as it does not fit into their scripted narrative. Or many others.

[LevelHead]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

If Ko Tee is there, why no photo?

He was not there.

The PDRC appear to have made a massive error and attacked and shot pro-election people, the red shirts all retreated after the car tried to plough into them and IED's were thrown.

So the PDRC used assault weapons on pro-election people, not red shirts.

Which is why you see photos of shot pro-election people, photos of PDRC with hand guns, rifles and assault weapons - and thats it.

An absolute horror of an error, which is why even Suthep has had to grudgingly admit something went wrong it seems.............

All in my opinion of course.

[BlueNoseCodger]

Another shot of white balaclava man

Thrower is on the right, Balaclava man :Tight pants / fancy striped sandles / long fingers.

Here's a closeup.

Edited February 3, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[BlueNoseCodger]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

If Ko Tee is there, why no photo?

He was not there.

The PDRC appear to have made a massive error and attacked and shot pro-election people, the red shirts all retreated after the car tried to plough into them and IED's were thrown.

So the PDRC used assault weapons on pro-election people, not red shirts.

Which is why you see photos of shot pro-election people, photos of PDRC with hand guns, rifles and assault weapons - and thats it.

An absolute horror of an error, which is why even Suthep has had to grudgingly admit something went wrong it seems.............

All in my opinion of course.

They shot a bunch of middle aged people just wanting to vote:

[Gummigalgen]

That guy was no typical guard. He was well trained in using that weapon to kill.

That is truth! Those guys are very well trained and are experts!

BUT NO ONE WAS KILLED!!!

Not like with the Reds!

As the Police are clearly with the reds, everyone have the right to protect himself!

Yes ManopY, you are completely right. No one was killed so all okay and still non-violent protesters, aren't they? NOT!

Not that I am so eager to be right with my predictions but under Suthep and his 'peaceful' methods; the Shutdown is going to be a Shotdown. Anarchistic idiots.

[geriatrickid]

Why is it the red supporters can go around shooting, bombing and creating mayhem without too many worries, but as soon as PDRC member discharges a firearm (for what ever reason) all the TV reds jump on the band-wagon with pictures, accusations and the usual nonsense demanding police involvement, arrests etc., but awfully quiet when its the reds involved. and what seems to be the BIG problem with walkie -talkies.

Give it a break reds, find something constructive to discuss.

This isn't about redshirts. It is about the longstanding repeated violent activities of members of the PDRC. Now that they are caught dead to rights, Suthep can no longer deny their activity. Your logic is spurious. If a criminal kills people during a robbery, does that mean that shop clerks can start shooting at people on a whim? That's what you are saying. The alleged illegal activities of people in 2010 do not justify PDRC thugs assassinating people.

[Emptyset]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

Well, bear in mind, Suthep made the lesser admission to make credible the bigger lie - that those with 'war weapons' (as Abhisit would've said in 2010) were nothing to do with the PDRC.

[xminator]

One wonders whether we will see a similar admission from the leader of the Red Shirts at Laksi that day Ko Tee

Most likely not when they have nothing to admit.

[GAS]

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And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

How about a re-education camp gerry? That would be cool huh! Lulz...

[Emptyset]

Why is it the red supporters can go around shooting, bombing and creating mayhem without too many worries, but as soon as PDRC member discharges a firearm (for what ever reason) all the TV reds jump on the band-wagon with pictures, accusations and the usual nonsense demanding police involvement, arrests etc., but awfully quiet when its the reds involved. and what seems to be the BIG problem with walkie -talkies.

Give it a break reds, find something constructive to discuss.

Well, the grenade throwers and nightly shootings could be perpetrated by the reds, but that isn't certain (Shawn Crispin's military source linked the attacks to mafia elements possibly in league with rogue police). Whereas these guys are clearly PDRC. However, you do have a point. But isn't that the same for both sides? If the reds were seen with an arsenal like this, do you think the people on this forum would've held back with the 'red terrorist' stuff, regardless of whether they'd killed anyone?

It's sheer chance that they didn't kill anyone btw. Based on what I've heard from knowledgable others, I'm not convinced they're professionals, at least not compared to the MiB of 2010. Maybe they've had military training or are ex Thahan Phran or the like. A few technical student types as well perhaps. And for those arguing "self defense", bear in mind police had defused the earlier hostility at the district office - the reds were on their way back to the wat or back home at the time PDRC Lad Phrao showed up. Koh Tee already has a reputation for violence given his rhetoric, despite the fact he seemed to have come off worse last time he confronted the PDRC. But you can't automatically blame him. There was no clash before the PDRC militants showed up.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Emptyset

[citizen33]

I find this almost unbelievable. These are not two groups meeting each other on a one-as-bad-as-the-other basis in random public spaces in the city. A faction of armed men has gone to a key election site to stop the ballot and has thrown bombs and fired shots at people whose only crime is that they wanted to ensure a vote could go ahead.. I will try to refrain from debating any more with the fascist scum on this forum who are willing to defend that.

Edited February 3, 2014 by citizen33

[icommunity]

Why is it the red supporters can go around shooting, bombing and creating mayhem without too many worries, but as soon as PDRC member discharges a firearm (for what ever reason) all the TV reds jump on the band-wagon with pictures, accusations and the usual nonsense demanding police involvement, arrests etc., but awfully quiet when its the reds involved. and what seems to be the BIG problem with walkie -talkies.

Give it a break reds, find something constructive to discuss.

Because they said they are peaceful and fight only with their bare hands.

[spirit47]

Unbelievable how the PTP supporters now crying, never see that any leader of them say, "yes, that was one of us". Thats my friends is the big difference between ..... And involved mean what it means, there was shootings from both sides, I think I now who started. And dont forget, 95% of violence in the last 3 months going to your account...

[ShannonT]

Why are armed militias from Suthep allowed to roam the streets of Bangkok and shoot people they choose at will? They shot a 71 year old grandfather who is now paralyzed. Suthep knows who it is but won't give him up. Is this the kind of "transparency" and "reforms" we can expect from the people's council?

[kannot]

Why are armed militias from Suthep allowed to roam the streets of Bangkok and shoot people they choose at will? They shot a 71 year old grandfather who is now paralyzed. Suthep knows who it is but won't give him up. Is this the kind of "transparency" and "reforms" we can expect from the people's council?

Ah the ever happy smiling Thais, never forget you live in a country thats still a 3rd world mentality where a life is worth almost nothing and money and greed rule.