Pheu Thai Party predicts winning 300 seats in yesterday's polls

[sjaak327]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

Can't remember him saying the majority supported him. He said he would accept a PT government that came from election post-reform. PT's speculation about how many seats they think they might have won is just useless chest thumping until the MPs can be registered and a government formed and it seems highly unlikely that will ever happen due to the lack of constitutionality of the election.

Let them enjoy their "victory" while they figure out a way to borrow money to pay the farmers they've bilked.

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There is no doubt calling the elections was constitutional. In fact they didn't even have a choice in the matter.

The only unconstitutional events that unfolded were the protestors messing with the election and preventing those elections from proceeding normally in about 10% of polling stations. I hope that whoever disrupted the elections to be arrested and prosecuted to set a clear example to anyone, that messing with democratic elections isn't tolerated under any circumstance.

Of course the chance of this happening is slim to none. Now the irony of this is that as long as elections are not concluded, and the lower house occupied, Yingluck remains caretaker PM. The "democrats" and Suthep still must be hoping for a coup in one shape or form. Silly people, they actually might have had a chance at beating PT at the ballot box, but were to occupied in their unconstitutional antics to notice !

[ShannonT]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

nice try, um, it was a one party vote. so yeah. ofcourse they will win the election. it was a snap vote. noone has time to campaign. the majority doesnt count in this case. so go heckle 4chan or something.

54 parties actually - snap election because Suthep's thugs demanded the government to step down - so they did and said "let the people decide" but Dear Leader didn't like that also as he would lose

anyway never mind the Judiciary will come to save the ammart once again unfortunately

Now I'm confused, some say it was only one party running and that is why they win, others say up to 50 parties. Can someone actually confirm just how many parties there were to vote for? If it was more than say 3 can we put this lone party bullshite to bed.

40 parties according to the draw:

Plenty of choices (even Sonthi's yellow shirt New Politics Party, which got less than 1%) if you didn't want Puea Thai.

Yet the vast majority chose Puea Thai. Hmmm, strange.

[uty6543]

It really doesn't matter how many seats they won because they are never going to get to sit in them.

[casualbiker]

Right on the nail. If enough voters supported Suthep's ideology, Puea Thai would have never received this amount of votes. It clearly shows the majority of Thais want Puea Thai to lead them. How hard is it for the Democrats to accept that?

ummm what amount of votes?

Thailand has The current population of the Kingdom of Thailand is about 69.52 million people,

​of which 48 million are eligible to vote

Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

so if Phua Thai got 50% of the vote it would be 10 million people out of 69 million... landslide

a really ignorant post

people were STOPPED from voting so use any intelligence you may have please as you already dimly recognized only 48m could vote so it is not "out of 69m"

to use your own flawed logic? 200,000 protest out of 69m people = 0.28% of the population - hardly representative is it?

wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected..

Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC %

You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no

[casualbiker]

ummm what amount of votes?

Thailand has The current population of the Kingdom of Thailand is about 69.52 million people,

​of which 48 million are eligible to vote

Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

so if Phua Thai got 50% of the vote it would be 10 million people out of 69 million... landslide

a really ignorant post

people were STOPPED from voting so use any intelligence you may have please as you already dimly recognized only 48m could vote so it is not "out of 69m"

to use your own flawed logic? 200,000 protest out of 69m people = 0.28% of the population - hardly representative is it?

Don't blame him. He clearly cannot even calculate or understand the meaning of eligible voters and population.

69 million people includes children and others, who are not eligible to vote.

48 million eligible to vote includes the MILLIONS that were prevented from voting due to Suthep's militia seizing ballots and forcing election venues to close.

And Puea Thai got much more than 50% of the vote vs. "No Vote" votes.

In summary, his calculation makes absolutely no sense.

your assertions make absolutely no sense because the vote is not even in yet.. no official numbers until the EC release them.

i would like you to post the results please.

oh ps: in answer to your request RE: political schools:

http://thairedshirts.org/2013/10/01/21st-udd-political-schools-in-chiang-mai-doi-saket-district/

Edited February 3, 2014 by casualbiker

[ShannonT]

ummm what amount of votes?

Thailand has The current population of the Kingdom of Thailand is about 69.52 million people,

​of which 48 million are eligible to vote

Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

so if Phua Thai got 50% of the vote it would be 10 million people out of 69 million... landslide

a really ignorant post

people were STOPPED from voting so use any intelligence you may have please as you already dimly recognized only 48m could vote so it is not "out of 69m"

to use your own flawed logic? 200,000 protest out of 69m people = 0.28% of the population - hardly representative is it?

wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected..

Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC %

You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no

Sigh. Again.

- Where do you get the numbers from that Puea Thai got only 50% of the votes?

- You say Puea Thai only got "10 million people out of 69 million". These are your own words.

Thailand does not have 69 million eligible voters.

Your entire calculation is flawed, why can't you understand that?

[Gweiloman]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

Not if the election is annulled, which it obviously will be due to failing constitutional requirements.

Failing which constitutional requirements?

Or are you just spouting (dare I say it) nonsense?

[ShannonT]

your assertions make absolutely no sense because the vote is not even in yet.. no official numbers until the EC release them.

i would like you to post the results please.

Chatuchak, Bangkok:

RT@tulsathit: A glimpse of Bkk results: A count in Chatuchak shows 67 votes for PT and 48 abstentions.

Bang Kapi, Bangkok:

That is the Democrat "stronghold" of Bangkok. Wait until you see the Isaan and Northern vote.

Edited February 3, 2014 by ShannonT

[Gweiloman]

wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected..

Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC %

You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no

I don't recall reading that the PT Party said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected. I do recall reading the EC saying that only a minority of polling booths in Thailand were affected, something around 11%, if I'm not mistaken.

Are you making things up?

[chooka]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

Can't remember him saying the majority supported him. He said he would accept a PT government that came from election post-reform. PT's speculation about how many seats they think they might have won is just useless chest thumping until the MPs can be registered and a government formed and it seems highly unlikely that will ever happen due to the lack of constitutionality of the election.

Let them enjoy their "victory" while they figure out a way to borrow money to pay the farmers they've bilked.

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He says he has 6 million people on the streets with him who represent 10% of those who support him. Those 6 million people throwing 1K baht notes at him every day the guy is making a fortune.

Edited February 3, 2014 by chooka

[rubl]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

It is not sooo hard to win a majority if you run the elections without opposition.....The leader in North Korea also got reelected every couple of years. Honecker also won every election.

They were at least 50 other parties contesting.

Most of them never heard of before and without a chance of winning the odd seat? Just the token opposition to show how 'democratic' all is?

Next we'll hear again about 'winning elections', as the most important aspect of a democracy. Well, go to N. Korea and learn how that's done.

[Gulfsailor]

ummm what amount of votes?

Thailand has The current population of the Kingdom of Thailand is about 69.52 million people,

​of which 48 million are eligible to vote

Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

so if Phua Thai got 50% of the vote it would be 10 million people out of 69 million... landslide

a really ignorant post

people were STOPPED from voting so use any intelligence you may have please as you already dimly recognized only 48m could vote so it is not "out of 69m"

to use your own flawed logic? 200,000 protest out of 69m people = 0.28% of the population - hardly representative is it?

Don't blame him. He clearly cannot even calculate or understand the meaning of eligible voters and population.

69 million people includes children and others, who are not eligible to vote.

48 million eligible to vote includes the MILLIONS that were prevented from voting due to Suthep's militia seizing ballots and forcing election venues to close.

And Puea Thai got much more than 50% of the vote vs. "No Vote" votes.

In summary, his calculation makes absolutely no sense.

Just to clear up one thing. The 46% turnout was amongst voters that could vote unhindered. So the millions that couldn't are not included in this percentage. It basically says that of all people that could vote less than half bothered to do so, of which an unknown percentage voted PTP. Unless all southern voters vote PTP in the by elections, there is no way that PTP can claim to represent the majority of the electorate.

PTP will likely get its 300 seats but as I said before, PTP will do this by getting no more than 10 million votes out of a possible total of 48 million. But hey, that's how the system works, and one can't blame PTP for the lack of alternative parties competing in the election, to draw more voters to the polls.

[Gweiloman]

your assertions make absolutely no sense because the vote is not even in yet.. no official numbers until the EC release them.

i would like you to post the results please.

oh ps: in answer to your request RE: political schools:

http://thairedshirts.org/2013/10/01/21st-udd-political-schools-in-chiang-mai-doi-saket-district/

This for one

Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected

PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide.

The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani.

Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6.

41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote.

[casualbiker]

ummm what amount of votes?

Thailand has The current population of the Kingdom of Thailand is about 69.52 million people,

​of which 48 million are eligible to vote

Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

so if Phua Thai got 50% of the vote it would be 10 million people out of 69 million... landslide

a really ignorant post

people were STOPPED from voting so use any intelligence you may have please as you already dimly recognized only 48m could vote so it is not "out of 69m"

to use your own flawed logic? 200,000 protest out of 69m people = 0.28% of the population - hardly representative is it?

wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected..

Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC %

You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no

Sigh. Again.

- Where do you get the numbers from that Puea Thai got only 50% of the votes?

- You say Puea Thai only got "10 million people out of 69 million". These are your own words.

Thailand does not have 69 million eligible voters.

Your entire calculation is flawed, why can't you understand that?

I said "if" they got.

if Thailand has 69 million people then the government of Thailand works for them. Not the other way round!

Where do you get the numbers that Phua Thai got more than 50% of the vote?

As i stated in the post there are 48 million eligible voters only 20 million voted.

Why don't we/you just wait until the official poll is out before we look at figures.. anything else is just supposition.. NO?

[ginjag]

It's funny how naive farangs were cheering the Dems boycotting the election, then supporting the yellow thugs in blocking the poll stations, ... and now complain that PT had no opposition in the same election

If the Dems did not want the PT to win, they obviously used the wrong tactic

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Funny how some posters got notions that the government were not corrupt. and everything is hunky dory. Shame you few have to be different from the norm.

But it could be that majority of farrangs are misguided.

First: "the government is not corrupt" or "the government was not corrupt". Back to English class for you.

Actually a great many farangs are aware that the government has always been corrupt. Suthep was so corrupt in parliament he caused the fall of the 1995 government (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/27/us-thailand-protest-suthep-idUSBRE9AQ0EI20131127). However then, as now, big-shots were not charged with corruption unless even more influential big-shots, a military junta in Thaksin's case, needed a fall guy to cover up their own misdeeds.

Back to the classroom for you, and stay there, the most hateful/clever clogs people on TVF are your type, without google what is the highest mountain in Russia ? don't try to be too clever,

[ShannonT]

I said "if" they got.

if Thailand has 69 million people then the government of Thailand works for them. Not the other way round!

Where do you get the numbers that Phua Thai got more than 50% of the vote?

As i stated in the post there are 48 million eligible voters only 20 million voted.

Why don't we/you just wait until the official poll is out before we look at figures.. anything else is just supposition.. NO?

Other members and I posted several polling results above if you care to read them.

[fleeing]

This is all just guess work till the final results are announced, but on the basis of the reported figures, Thailand could be looking at a government supported by a significant minority, perhaps as small as 25% of eligible Thai voters.

This is just 2006 all over again.

[Artisi]

Easy to rack up a high score when there is no other major political party such as the Democrats contesting.

And whose fault is that..??

If ''the people'' were as against this govt as Suthep claims, then they had the option to submit a ''No Vote'' or simply vote for another party. If enough of ''the people'' were against this govt then they wouldn't even get near an overall majority.

False claims from ''He who stops Bangkok'' or just pore voting..??

Right on the nail. If enough voters supported Suthep's ideology, Puea Thai would have never received this amount of votes. It clearly shows the majority of Thais want Puea Thai to lead them. How hard is it for the Democrats to accept that?

Can you please advise in clear plain English just how many votes PTP have actually received in this latest fiasco of a so called election.

[Arkady]

Puea Thai wins more seats than in the last election. That clearly shows that the majority of Thais do not support the lunatic Suthep.

The votes are not in yet............................ Also as a 3 horse race..what do you expect?

ps: And 2 of those horses are lame.. CTP and BJT

Not Puea Thai's fault is it? Yingluck told Abhisit and the Democrats to participate in the elections but they refused. No right to complain if you dont participate.

That is as may be but the constitution does not restrict the right of people who declined Yinglack's invitation to participate in the election to file a complaint with the Constitutional Court.

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[JesseFrank]

Easy to rack up a high score when there is no other major political party such as the Democrats contesting.

The DEM threw their seats away. So don't blame anyone.

It ain't over till the fat lady sings, and that is a looooooong way away

[djjamie]

Pheu Thai Party predicts winning 300 seats in yesterday's polls

Other PTP predictions;

• PTP predicts it will enjoy a landslide victory in Bangkok in 2011 (lost)
• PTP predicts Thaksin's return to Thailand in 3 months. August 13th, 2009. (didn't happen)
• PTP predicts rice scheme will be huge success (no comment needed)
• PTP predicts that over 80% will turn out to vote in 2014 (48% "unofficially" turned out)

Pheu Thai has managed the crisis adeptly and with aplomb. Ad hominem attacks against Surapon don't change the fact either.

The broad scope of the amnesty bill would have accomplished much to reconcile Thai society. The government was willing to seek that broader reconciliation even at the cost of losing some of its supporters who were victimized by violence.

The government misjudged the extent and anger of the middle class and their manipulative elite superordinates to Thaksin's having been included. It's just past time the middle class and their higher ups got over themselves by accepting the broad and inclusive amnesty that would provide the reconciliation Thailand desperately needs. It's the only way to return to the road of peace and prosperity.

My point was never ever trust a PTP prediction. No more, no less.

[chooka]

your assertions make absolutely no sense because the vote is not even in yet.. no official numbers until the EC release them.

i would like you to post the results please.

oh ps: in answer to your request RE: political schools:

http://thairedshirts.org/2013/10/01/21st-udd-political-schools-in-chiang-mai-doi-saket-district/

This for one

Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected

PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide.

The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani.

Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6.

41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote.

Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred.

[Arkady]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

Can't remember him saying the majority supported him. He said he would accept a PT government that came from election post-reform. PT's speculation about how many seats they think they might have won is just useless chest thumping until the MPs can be registered and a government formed and it seems highly unlikely that will ever happen due to the lack of constitutionality of the election.

Let them enjoy their "victory" while they figure out a way to borrow money to pay the farmers they've bilked.

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He says he has 6 million people on the streets with him who represent 10% of those who support him. Those 6 million people throwing 1K baht notes at him every day the guy is making a fortune.

So he has 60 million supporters vs 48 million eligible voters. One of you is exaggerating.

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[JesseFrank]

Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred.

Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ?

[fleeing]

Just comparing the figures from the elections in 2011 and yesterday.

In 2011 the voter turn out was 65.99%.

The estimated figures for yesterday are 45.8%.

Seems like the PDRC would be as justified as Chalerm in claiming victory, with such a massive increase in voters not participating, answering the call to boycott the elections.

[bubblegum]

I haven't read this whole threat, basically because it does not matter.

PTT majority will fall anyway; the courts will put most of them behind bars and the rest won't have any more money to play with so ...bankrupt

RIP Thailand

[spirit47]

Another Thai news source has reported that the unofficial turnout yesterday was just 45.8%, which will no doubt lead some to conclude that at least 54.2% of eligible voters have rejected Pheu Thai.

Majority rule anyone?

That means 24% of all Thai have voting right ....But ok, Pathum Thani give a few results to the media, that is the last point why the election now is unlawful...This winning bla bla is nonsense, the election failed with bravery, should be nominated fo an Oscar.... I have tears in my eys from laughing....

[djjamie]

Pheu Thai Party predicts winning 300 seats in yesterday's polls

Other PTP predictions;

• PTP predicts it will enjoy a landslide victory in Bangkok in 2011 (lost)
• PTP predicts Thaksin's return to Thailand in 3 months. August 13th, 2009. (didn't happen)
• PTP predicts rice scheme will be huge success (no comment needed)
• PTP predicts that over 80% will turn out to vote in 2014 (48% "unofficially" turned out)

Pheu Thai has managed the crisis adeptly and with aplomb. Ad hominem attacks against Surapon don't change the fact either.

The broad scope of the amnesty bill would have accomplished much to reconcile Thai society. The government was willing to seek that broader reconciliation even at the cost of losing some of its supporters who were victimized by violence.

The government misjudged the extent and anger of the middle class and their manipulative elite superordinates to Thaksin's having been included. It's just past time the middle class and their higher ups got over themselves by accepting the broad and inclusive amnesty that would provide the reconciliation Thailand desperately needs. It's the only way to return to the road of peace and prosperity.

Never a word more truly spoken.

I refer once again to Khun Channil's open letter. The amnesty bill would have been the first step towards reconciling all the powers that be. There were benefits for both sides. Sometimes, one needs to take one step backwards in order to move two steps forward.

Nice one. The PTP also said the rice scheme was a complete success and the policy will reap economic gains equal to three times the programme's cost. It has done the opposite and has cost the country dearly. The PTP blame the EC and the banks.

The PTP said the reconciliation bill would bridge gaps and promote forgiveness. It has done the opposite. It is the only reconciliation bill in history that had the potential of causing a civil war with opposition and PTP supporter alike out on the streets protesting it…..and you blame the opposition for the PTP trying to get the PM's brother off corruption charges and home a free man at the behest of a peaceful Thailand. I won't even mention the irony of the PTP's 2014 election promise and previous "fights on corruption" while at the very same time trying to give amnesty to dozens of corrupt MP's. So what is the PTP stance on corruption? Amnesty for corruption or fighting corruption? Seems the PTP can't really decide.

I hope the PTP declare civil war. Going by PTP policy trends the opposite will happen and Thailand will be the most peaceful country on earth!

The caretaker PM can't even vote without f*cking it up.

To even suggest the amnesty bill was a step towards reconciliation after looking at the Thai political landscape over the last 4 months not only highlights a complete lack of understanding of what is going on, but also shows that the most successful ministry of the PTP is the ministry of propaganda. It is not me suggesting the amnesty was not successful. I am only looking at facts. You know facts right? The PTP's kryptonite.

Edited February 3, 2014 by djjamie

[chooka]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

Can't remember him saying the majority supported him. He said he would accept a PT government that came from election post-reform. PT's speculation about how many seats they think they might have won is just useless chest thumping until the MPs can be registered and a government formed and it seems highly unlikely that will ever happen due to the lack of constitutionality of the election.

Let them enjoy their "victory" while they figure out a way to borrow money to pay the farmers they've bilked.

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He says he has 6 million people on the streets with him who represent 10% of those who support him. Those 6 million people throwing 1K baht notes at him every day the guy is making a fortune.

So he has 60 million supporters vs 48 million eligible voters. One of you is exaggerating.

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Yep agree with you 100%

[geriatrickid]

That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him.

It is not sooo hard to win a majority if you run the elections without opposition.....The leader in North Korea also got reelected every couple of years. Honecker also won every election.

The big difference is that Suthep and his Democrats supporters made the decision not to vote and to stop people from voting.