casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected.. Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC % You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no I don't recall reading that the PT Party said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected. I do recall reading the EC saying that only a minority of polling booths in Thailand were affected, something around 11%, if I'm not mistaken. Are you making things up? i'm not going back through 100 of posts just to clarify..up to you..ALL these posts claiming victory before the official vote is in are just stupid..
Gweiloman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Another Thai news source has reported that the unofficial turnout yesterday was just 45.8%, which will no doubt lead some to conclude that at least 54.2% of eligible voters have rejected Pheu Thai. Majority rule anyone? That means 24% of all Thai have voting right ....But ok, Pathum Thani give a few results to the media, that is the last point why the election now is unlawful...This winning bla bla is nonsense, the election failed with bravery, should be nominated fo an Oscar.... I have tears in my eys from laughing.... Maybe if you didn't laugh so much, and therefore did not have tears in your eys (sic), you might have read that the EC has said it is allowable for individual districts to announce their results.
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 I said "if" they got.if Thailand has 69 million people then the government of Thailand works for them. Not the other way round! Where do you get the numbers that Phua Thai got more than 50% of the vote? As i stated in the post there are 48 million eligible voters only 20 million voted. Why don't we/you just wait until the official poll is out before we look at figures.. anything else is just supposition.. NO? Other members and I posted several polling results above if you care to read them. Nope.. i never saw the whole countries polling results.. please re-post you don't mean THIS! DO YOU? That only shows 5 political parties! Where are the other 49 that were in the election?
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him. Not if the election is annulled, which it obviously will be due to failing constitutional requirements. Failing which constitutional requirements? Or are you just spouting (dare I say it) nonsense? according to the constitution the election has to be held nationwide on the same day. 1
Mosha Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 It's funny how naive farangs were cheering the Dems boycotting the election, then supporting the yellow thugs in blocking the poll stations, ... and now complain that PT had no opposition in the same election If the Dems did not want the PT to win, they obviously used the wrong tactic Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Funny how some posters got notions that the government were not corrupt. and everything is hunky dory. Shame you few have to be different from the norm. But it could be that majority of farrangs are misguided. Not misguided at all my friend. Some of us actually have a handle on the system in Thailand and have done for many years. Do you honestly believe that things would be any better under a Democrat government..?? Now who's being misguided..?? Rice farmers would be paid, how bad is that? 1
icommunity Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him. It is not sooo hard to win a majority if you run the elections without opposition.....The leader in North Korea also got reelected every couple of years. Honecker also won every election. They were at least 50 other parties contesting. Most of them never heard of before and without a chance of winning the odd seat? Just the token opposition to show how 'democratic' all is? Next we'll hear again about 'winning elections', as the most important aspect of a democracy. Well, go to N. Korea and learn how that's done. At least they stand a chance and not coward like the DEM who choose to live in a victim mentality world. These small parties have courage and support democracy. Why not compare to US. They have two big parties and few other small parties. Is there anything insidious in their participation? The DEM is not the only political party in Thailand. Any party can progress to fill their place.
chooka Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. INSTEAD of just taking my response to another post and trying to distort it for your self centred gain try including both posts for others to see in fairness. This may have very well been one source that the Australia media used. Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide. The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani. Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6. 41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote.
icommunity Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Easy to rack up a high score when there is no other major political party such as the Democrats contesting. The DEM threw their seats away. So don't blame anyone. It ain't over till the fat lady sings, and that is a looooooong way away Hahahahaha.
JesseFrank Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. I heard they have a lot of kangaroos. Oh and by the way, here in Thailand the EC said that they would not announce the election results before at the earliest 23 February. The must definitely be ahead in time down under.
Boxclever Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Of course they win, as they practically elect themselves... and that means there will be a NEW election committee with Pheu Thai only members to ensure there'll be no more resistance in the Thaksinomics-system They were at least 50 other parties contesting. Really???? Who????!!!! I've never hear about those bozos... Your awareness is impressive and lends credence, understanding and knowledge to your posts concerning the Machiavalian nature of Thai politics. Long may we endure your erudition. Yes, he's painfully stupid.
Gweiloman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected.. Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC % You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no I don't recall reading that the PT Party said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected. I do recall reading the EC saying that only a minority of polling booths in Thailand were affected, something around 11%, if I'm not mistaken. Are you making things up? i'm not going back through 100 of posts just to clarify..up to you..ALL these posts claiming victory before the official vote is in are just stupid.. The point is that you made up a statement to try and justify a false claim (PT lying). My post does not claim any victory for any side. I do not make any claim without being in full possession of the facts.
Gweiloman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 I said "if" they got.if Thailand has 69 million people then the government of Thailand works for them. Not the other way round! Where do you get the numbers that Phua Thai got more than 50% of the vote? As i stated in the post there are 48 million eligible voters only 20 million voted. Why don't we/you just wait until the official poll is out before we look at figures.. anything else is just supposition.. NO? Other members and I posted several polling results above if you care to read them. Nope.. i never saw the whole countries polling results.. please re-post you don't mean THIS! DO YOU? BfdMT-SCMAALA0C.jpg That only shows 5 political parties! Where are the other 49 that were in the election? Don't know much about politics, do you? There are over 50 parties contesting THE election, not every seat.
chooka Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. I heard they have a lot of kangaroos. Oh and by the way, here in Thailand the EC said that they would not announce the election results before at the earliest 23 February. The must definitely be ahead in time down under. Yes and they are good eating and are form the Coat of Arms. What is your point and what does part of our Coat of Arms have to do with this topic? Do you have something against Australia's National Symbol?
JesseFrank Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. INSTEAD of just taking my response to another post and trying to distort it for your self centred gain try including both posts for others to see in fairness. This may have very well been one source that the Australia media used. Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide. The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani. Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6. 41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote. As it seems that the Australians consider by PT made up results from Pathum Thani to be the final Thai election results, i assume that Thailand is a sub district from Phatum Thani ?
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 They were at least 50 other parties contesting. Really???? Who????!!!! I've never hear about those bozos... Your awareness is impressive and lends credence, understanding and knowledge to your posts concerning the Machiavalian nature of Thai politics. Long may we endure your erudition. Yes, he's painfully stupid. And YET even after many times asking.. STILL no list of the 50 parties.... But Shannon was nice enough to post a picture with 5 parties on..
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 I said "if" they got.if Thailand has 69 million people then the government of Thailand works for them. Not the other way round! Where do you get the numbers that Phua Thai got more than 50% of the vote? As i stated in the post there are 48 million eligible voters only 20 million voted. Why don't we/you just wait until the official poll is out before we look at figures.. anything else is just supposition.. NO? Other members and I posted several polling results above if you care to read them. Nope.. i never saw the whole countries polling results.. please re-post you don't mean THIS! DO YOU? BfdMT-SCMAALA0C.jpg That only shows 5 political parties! Where are the other 49 that were in the election? Don't know much about politics, do you? There are over 50 parties contesting THE election, not every seat. I don't know much about the workings of Thai politics... SO who are the "over 50 parties" because if like i think they are VERY small parties.. MAYBE just list the larger parties then..say any with over 3 candidates!
philw Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 It's funny how naive farangs were cheering the Dems boycotting the election, then supporting the yellow thugs in blocking the poll stations, ... and now complain that PT had no opposition in the same election If the Dems did not want the PT to win, they obviously used the wrong tactic Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Funny how some posters got notions that the government were not corrupt. and everything is hunky dory. Shame you few have to be different from the norm. But it could be that majority of farrangs are misguided. Sadly for your argument, I don't recall any post on this forum denying the existence of corruption in Thailand. I think all posters know it is all around. So please, in the interests of clarity and your reputation, can you please highlight one or two posts from any "misguided farang" stating that there is no corruption?? A bottle of scotch if you can. Just one post from anybody, denying the existence of corruption in Thailand. 2
Popular Post djjamie Posted February 3, 2014 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2014 Northeast region voter turn out; 2014 - 56.14% 2011 - 72.48% North region; 2014 - 54.03% 2011 - 77.16% South region; 2014 - 44.88% 2011 - 76.76% Central region; 2014 - 42.38% 2011 - 75.73% According to the PTP a great success. In fact I remember some posters on TVF suggesting Suthep has galvanized the democratic supporters (one principle of democracy supporters) to come out in strength to vote. Facts suggest otherwise? Referendum to pass the 2007 constitution put to the people with the people passing it - 58% for and 42% against. According to the PTP it is not a true reflection of the voice of the people and the majority didn't want that constitution. PTP win 2011 general election with 44.3% of the vote. Overwhelming majority and PTP are loved by all. 200 grandmothers come out with 10 muscle men to threaten to kidnap judges in front of the Constitutional court and they are described as the majority voicing their dislike. Up to 6 million come out to protest an amnesty that would get the PM's brother off corruption charges and they are compared, % wise, to every man, women and child in Thailand as a tiny tiny minority. Facts Math - The PTP's kryptonite. 5
whybother Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 One thing that is very clear already based on the numbers released by the EC . . . Pheu Thai do NOT enjoy the support of the "majority" of people in Thailand. Does any party in the democratic world enjoy the support of the "majority" of the people? USA? UK? Germany? France? Australia? For the last 2+ years, government supporters have been going on about how PTP had the support of the majority of Thais. Is that being thrown away now?
jcsmith Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him. It is not sooo hard to win a majority if you run the elections without opposition.....The leader in North Korea also got reelected every couple of years. Honecker also won every election. Come now, the only reason the Democrats didn't want an election is becuase they knew they were going to lose handily. It happens every time. 1
Gweiloman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 One thing that is very clear already based on the numbers released by the EC . . . Pheu Thai do NOT enjoy the support of the "majority" of people in Thailand. Does any party in the democratic world enjoy the support of the "majority" of the people? USA? UK? Germany? France? Australia? For the last 2+ years, government supporters have been going on about how PTP had the support of the majority of Thais. Is that being thrown away now? Some posters have been going on about how PTP had the support of the majority of Thais. I have not.
whybother Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Puea Thai wins more seats than in the last election. That clearly shows that the majority of Thais do not support the lunatic Suthep. The majority of Thais?? Not even the majority of voters, and they'll be lucky to have the majority of votes ... again. 2
Gweiloman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 That will give them a clear majority and a return to power. Guess Suthep may have been wrong when he stated the majority supported him. Not if the election is annulled, which it obviously will be due to failing constitutional requirements. Failing which constitutional requirements? Or are you just spouting (dare I say it) nonsense? according to the constitution the election has to be held nationwide on the same day. Presumably you mean Article 108 which (to paraphrase) states that the elections has to be held on the same date (not day) which it was - 02 Feb 2014 (2557). This particular article does not refer to or cover advance elections or subsequent by-elections - which by definition, CANNOT occur on the same day.
fleeing Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. INSTEAD of just taking my response to another post and trying to distort it for your self centred gain try including both posts for others to see in fairness. This may have very well been one source that the Australia media used. Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide. The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani. Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6. 41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote. Not criticising your post, but for Pheu Thai to declare winning a vote where only 41% turn up, as a landslide victory is perhaps a teensy bit deranged, or perhaps just crooked. 1
Boxclever Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 And YET even after many times asking.. STILL no list of the 50 parties.... But Shannon was nice enough to post a picture with 5 parties on.. Geez your getting desperate now! Let me give you a hint "Google is your friend" Do your own research. If you're not sure how to do a web search...well...you're out of luck
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 wow.. so the Phua thai party were lying when THEY said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected.. Yes.. The southern area was also closed down but that is not included in the EC % You seem to be misled yourself, because the government is for the people of Thailand hence 69 million of which 48 million can vote. Yes or no I don't recall reading that the PT Party said that only a minority of polling booths in Bangkok were affected. I do recall reading the EC saying that only a minority of polling booths in Thailand were affected, something around 11%, if I'm not mistaken. Are you making things up? i'm not going back through 100 of posts just to clarify..up to you..ALL these posts claiming victory before the official vote is in are just stupid.. The point is that you made up a statement to try and justify a false claim (PT lying). My post does not claim any victory for any side. I do not make any claim without being in full possession of the facts. Oh ok then! You said in another post. "Maybe if you didn't laugh so much, and therefore did not have tears in your eys (sic), you might have read that the EC has said it is allowable for individual districts to announce their results." which i presume you got from here: "In the meantime, no preliminary result of 2 February election will be announced, said Mr. Banchong Sukdee, deputy Permanent Secretary of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA). "The result will have to wait until the election is fully completed," Mr. Banchong explained, "Otherwise it would mislead the public". According to Mr. Banchong, individual polling stations can count their votes and announce the result in front of the venue for the public to observe, but officials are not allowed to transfer these results to the Election Commission." If i'm wrong about your full possession of the facts, then i apologize.. please post link . thanks ps: as i cannot find the original re: a Phua thai person stating only a minority were effected.. i take it back.. still doesn't stop the fact that it was only a small amount affected though..does it?
whybother Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Easy to rack up a high score when there is no other major political party such as the Democrats contesting. And whose fault is that..?? If ''the people'' were as against this govt as Suthep claims, then they had the option to submit a ''No Vote'' or simply vote for another party. If enough of ''the people'' were against this govt then they wouldn't even get near an overall majority. False claims from ''He who stops Bangkok'' or just pore voting..?? Right on the nail. If enough voters supported Suthep's ideology, Puea Thai would have never received this amount of votes. It clearly shows the majority of Thais want Puea Thai to lead them. How hard is it for the Democrats to accept that? Do you even know how many votes they got? They can easily win seats with 30% of the vote.
SABloke Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Another Thai news source has reported that the unofficial turnout yesterday was just 45.8%, which will no doubt lead some to conclude that at least 54.2% of eligible voters have rejected Pheu Thai. Majority rule anyone? why? it's low because the fascists stopped people voting Ok - Even if we add the 30% that did not vote (some were prevented and some chose not to vote, but I'll give you the whole 30%, even though most problems were in the South where everyone know PT has a difficult time garnering support - honestly can't remember ever seeing a 100% voting turnout anywhere) - So now we have 75.8% They win, practically unopposed (according to their figures) 240 seats (48% from polls (21.98% of all elligible voters)) so that translates to just 51.98% IF all 13 million non-voters had voted for them. If only 50% of the non-voters voted for them, their figure drops to 37% of the popular vote. Realistically they MIGHT have got 20 - 25% of those votes, but that would see them 30% - a truly unbelievably large majority 1
Mackie Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Was just on the Australian news also that she has won easily and the question was posted, will Suthep step up his demonstrations and a political commentator in BKK says that his unlikely as the demonstrator numbers have dropped to a few hundred. Do they get the Thai election results in Australia first these days ? They get the news from Thailand, we may be down under but no longer just a colonial outpost. Australia has electricity now and even the internet and social media. We can actually watch the news as it happens anywhere in the world. INSTEAD of just taking my response to another post and trying to distort it for your self centred gain try including both posts for others to see in fairness. This may have very well been one source that the Australia media used. Pathum Thani reports Pheu Thai landslide as expected PATHUM THANI 3 February 2014 (NNT) —After tallying up the votes for constituency-based election, Pathum Thani has announced that the Pheu Thai party has won by a landslide. The Prathum Thani election commission has concluded that the Pheu Thai candidates have swept all the seats by a landslide as predicted. An unofficial report named Mr. Supachai Nopkam of Pheu Thai the winner in district 1 of Pathum Thani. Meanwhile, Mr. Surapong Ungumpornvilai has won in district 2; Mr. Somsak Jaiclaew in district 3; Ms. Pornpiman Thammasan in district 4; Mr. Chaiyan Polsuwan in district 5; and Mr. Somchai Rangsiwattanasak in district 6. 41.06% of the eligible voters in Pathum Thaini turned up to vote. Do you honestly believe that the election supervised by Ko Tee and his henchmen carries any credibility? Why bother posting it? It means nothing. 1
casualbiker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Northeast region voter turn out; 2014 - 56.14% 2011 - 72.48% North region; 2014 - 54.03% 2011 - 77.16% South region; 2014 - 44.88% 2011 - 76.76% Central region; 2014 - 42.38% 2011 - 75.73% According to the PTP a great success. In fact I remember some posters on TVF suggesting Suthep has galvanized the democratic supporters (one principle of democracy supporters) to come out in strength to vote. Facts suggest otherwise? Referendum to pass the 2007 constitution put to the people with the people passing it - 58% for and 42% against. According to the PTP it is not a true reflection of the voice of the people and the majority didn't want that constitution. PTP win 2011 general election with 44.3% of the vote. Overwhelming majority and PTP are loved by all. 200 grandmothers come out with 10 muscle men to threaten to kidnap judges in front of the Constitutional court and they are described as the majority voicing their dislike. Up to 6 million come out to protest an amnesty that would get the PM's brother off corruption charges and they are compared, % wise, to every man, women and child in Thailand as a tiny tiny minority. Facts Math - The PTP's kryptonite. could i ask where you got the figures? thanks
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