saltandpepper Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ah, I think I start to understand. Any one protesters must be a fake farmer You obviously do not understand. The two "farmers" leaders named are not farmers, full stop. Nothing whatsoever to do with accusing every protester as fake at all. Why do you post these false accusations? Have you never heard of representative? You know, a bit like when Yingluck does not have the guts to discuss matters herself and that she sends someone else like Yanyong for example! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gonzo the Face Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers Kikoman I think you've been sucking up too much of your own sauce....... did you not read [or just choose to ignore] the report this morning that her greatness "declined" to meet with the farmers??? I guess that does not fit with your agenda, so ignore it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers That's right. Farmers who have been without an income for 6 months would never protest against the government. Clearly they are fakes. Are you completely out of your mind? Of course they are going to protest against the government. I would not be surprised if they leaders are professional rabble rousers but to write off all those people as "fakes" is appalling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkungbank Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 How do you measure most suffer and less suffer ? Everybody are suffering now. What is the point when you pay the suiside family now it cannot bring him back to life ? Let you hunger for 2 days with noting to eat see can speak out loud or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit47 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Do fake farmers also grow fake rice? Ask the Government, they know all about fake-rice... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) This was a shocking press statement from any imaginable standpoint. The Yingluck administration is now going back to the tried and true Jataporn tactic of labelling opponents. The word is no longer " elite ". The word is no longer " amart ". The new word is apparently " fake ". And it's used eight times in this article, lest anymore forget the emphasis that was intended. The administration is now engaged in a full-frontal war of words on farmers - not real ones, apparently, but fake ones. One can not think of anything more truly offensive to the sensibilities of farmers who ended up at the Defense Ministry in tears earlier today, looking for Yingluck - who it seems is always on tap for tears of her own. Well, it seems she's real, and they are fake. On top of all the other injustices the farmers have had, they are now being called fake to their faces. Is there any more evidence we need of an administration so profoundly and morally out of control ? Vichien has been outspokenly skeptical of this administration on the issue of rice. For a year. This is what he said just three weeks ago : ICHIEN PINTHONGKHAM, FARMER (voiceover translation): I haven't got money from the Agricultural Bank, so I don't have money for investment. I brought the document, but they told me to go home. They said they will call, but I don't know when. Yet suddenly - today - he is on board. Whatever inducements he has received has apparently blocked out a year of criticism and skepticism. In one day. And he is now apparently the only " real " farmer in Thailand. Because Yanyong says so, that's why. Apparently,Thai Rice Farmers Association president Prasit Boonchoey is also by implication not a " real " farmer either, simply on the strength of the fact that he has been wise as to what the administration has been doing and has led many farmers on this issue. Conspicuously, though, Yanyong didn't include him in his Nixonian " plumbers " list. But for all the farmers throughout the country who know that they are indeed farmers, who have come from families devastated by this experience, frequently with tragedy in tow, and know that they have been cheated out of their money by this very administration - Yanyong has - in one press announcement - thrown away Pheu Thai's loyal base for generations to come, with one last, outrageous act of sheer vindictiveness and brazen deception. Edited February 17, 2014 by Scamper 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gemini81 Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers Kikoman I think you've been sucking up too much of your own sauce....... did you not read [or just choose to ignore] the report this morning that her greatness "declined" to meet with the farmers??? I guess that does not fit with your agenda, so ignore it. The one thing concrete, that we do learn from the most, is not the articles, but the posts that show what a sad state it is to be an ex pat who sits around defending an oligarchy of graft, nepotism, and a few lines to take cheap shots at people who have the balls to demonstrate and say no to unacceptable ineptitude and lies-without burning tires, throwing bombs and killing soldiers. Edited February 17, 2014 by gemini81 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CantSpell Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 What is he complaining about??? Wasnt that the plan from the beginning of the rice scheme? They paid billions through it to "fake farmers" already .... Now they are protesting... Which fake is more fake than the other fake? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Many trade union leaders here in the UK probably have never done a hard days graft, but they do represent those that do. Just another distraction to avoid reality... So will the farmers be paid this week? maybe the government should also pay interest at the rates farmers have to pay for those "payday loans" they needed to get by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! Can I ask. Who farms your land if your family don't ? Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! Can I ask. Who farms your land if your family don't ? Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app ...and if you're not a Thai national, you own no farm land, unless you stated in an agreement that in the event of divorce, the old lady sells it and you divide profits; assuming you have a marriage certificate. Sounds fishy...... In so many words, you said: if you're not plowing your wife's rice paddy, who is?! haha. Edited February 17, 2014 by gemini81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) so according to PTP if you are a lawyer representing the farmers you must be a farmer too otherwise you are a "fake of something" I think they might understand the logic in kindergarden because this is way beyond any adult thinking mentality - just complete nonsense PS - as yingluk is the defence secretary representing the military in government - well she must be a fake as the only thing she has ever shot came straight out of her .................... Edited February 17, 2014 by smedly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 This is going to go down real well with the farmers being called fake . He forgot that the whole scheme has been fake where everybody but the farmers have benefited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ah, I think I start to understand. Any one protesters must be a fake farmer You obviously do not understand. The two "farmers" leaders named are not farmers, full stop. Nothing whatsoever to do with accusing every protester as fake at all. Why do you post these false accusations? On the other hand fabby, why would anybody want to go into print to defend this character? Are you down on your post count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! Can I ask. Who farms your land if your family don't ? Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app ...and if you're not a Thai national, you own no farm land, unless you stated in an agreement that in the event of divorce, the old lady sells it and you divide profits; assuming you have a marriage certificate. Sounds fishy...... In so many words, you said: if you're not plowing your wife's rice paddy, who is?! haha. I guess it's like any land we farang claim is ours. The wife's name is on the documents, my name is on the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers So what your really your saying is that the gov't will only talk to the chosen few (pink tinged at least) and if farmers support any protests the gov't won't talk to / negotiate / discuss with them. In other words the govt is actually intimidating the farmers to give up their rights under the Thai constitution to protest. And this coming from the builders and protectors of democracy. Then how is it that the pt mob again and again talk of / push dictatorship. they are clearly very confused, or well paid. By the way I wonder if the gravy train payments are up to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namatjira Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 At the rate of these poor farmers committing suicide there will not be too many left soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Melyn Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 In a world of fakes the red champions of the poor gain second place. Third place goes to tough man Chalerm and the evergreen Surapong for Thailand's best ever comedy duo And first place goes to the plastic Barbie girl with fake tears and a nappy change every 5 minutes Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggold Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers I understand, A bit like poster who come on here with fake ideas of what is going on. I trump your 8 rai with 16 rai and no I am not a farmer either. And it isn't rocket science to see what is going on. according to the crackpots in government the fake farmers are no the ones interested in getting paid! no they must join the red shirt nominated farmers association or the government won't talk to them. your comments are getting more and more desperate, a bit like the government at the moment.Next it will be fake politicians! Cheers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers I understand, A bit like poster who come on here with fake ideas of what is going on. I trump your 8 rai with 16 rai and no I am not a farmer either. And it isn't rocket science to see what is going on. according to the crackpots in government the fake farmers are no the ones interested in getting paid! no they must join the red shirt nominated farmers association or the government won't talk to them. your comments are getting more and more desperate, a bit like the government at the moment.Next it will be fake politicians! Cheers "Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with!" kikoman, you've got more sauce than a soy dog with your comments. Prove he's paying thousands of farmers to protest their plight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! Can I ask. Who farms your land if your family don't ? Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Maybe he is an amart and has serfs do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You know you've reached the bottom of the ladder when you are called a "fake farmer." ...by a fake politician. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerdee123 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) fake farmers ..... fake politicians .... fake leaders ... fake democracy .... fake voters ... fake soldiers .... fake bags of rice ..... fake millers ... fake rice sale contracts ... fake budge amounts ... fake forum posters ..... fake "Thai" smiles .... fake computer software .... fake luggage .. fake watches ... fake medicine ... fake videos ... etc etc etc .... what's real in this country? Thailand can be the fake hub of the world ... Edited February 17, 2014 by rogerdee123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You know you've reached the bottom of the ladder when you are called a "fake farmer." ...by a fake politician. And the leader of that same politician is a fake pm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeThePoster Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 fake farmers They're the ones that grow silicone implants, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ah, I think I start to understand. Any one protesters must be a fake farmer You obviously do not understand. The two "farmers" leaders named are not farmers, full stop. Nothing whatsoever to do with accusing every protester as fake at all. Why do you post these false accusations? Still kissing up to Big T I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Fake farmers, wanting to meet fake we-care-about-the-poor politicians, in a fake democracy. Fake this. Anyone fancy a pint? Yep, it is becoming a Fast Show sketch. PTP have had their own Rowley Birkin for ages now, then along comes "ain't rice farmers brilliant, I mean, you don't need to pay them or nothing" 'Like the endless blackness of space that leads to the chasm of clams!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) 'Deputy Commerce Minister Yanyong Puangrat today called farmer leaders protesting at the Commerce Ministry fake farmers , and declared the government would negotiate only with real farmers.' That is beyond pathetic, just how low will these ministers sink to save their own derrières. Edited February 17, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob8891 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Do fake farmers also grow fake rice? Does a real government give out fake promises of payment for real rice?? That's your hat trick... three really dumb posts in one day. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We own more farm land then 8 rai and we are not farmers! It does not take a rocket scientist to under stand Suthep is desperate to get something that looks like farmer support for his failed protest, they are doing everything possible to gain political gain out of the suffering of farmers and at the same time threatening banks not to make loans to pay the farmers. Suthep has made it pretty clear he has no intention to negotiate, why should the government waste time with a group that clearly is against negotiations and from the article they (so-called fake farmers) staged a walk out of negotiations already, if they refuse to negotiate maybe they staged one walk out to many! The real farmers groups have made it clear they are protesting only to get paid the money the government owes them and nothing else,if there are real farmers that want to join Suthep's protest, they are free to chose the groups they wish to support and the government clearly stated they will meet farmers interested in getting paid! Plain and simple the farmers Suthep pays to attend his rallies, are not the farmers the government will negotiate with! Cheers I understand, A bit like poster who come on here with fake ideas of what is going on. I trump your 8 rai with 16 rai and no I am not a farmer either. And it isn't rocket science to see what is going on. according to the crackpots in government the fake farmers are no the ones interested in getting paid! no they must join the red shirt nominated farmers association or the government won't talk to them. your comments are getting more and more desperate, a bit like the government at the moment.Next it will be fake politicians! Cheers ".Next it will be fake politicians". Cant be. According to the constitution they are all proper Thai with higher education and self-written dissertations to gain their academic titles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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