wicketkeeper Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Canadian researchers have confirmed what most people suspected all along: that internet trolls are archetypal Machiavellian sadists. Can the moderators of Thai Visa exclude or excise these sadists and psychopaths from the general debate? http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/online-trolls-are-psychopaths-and-sadists-psychologists-claim-9134396.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't think so, I have been accused of being a troll a few times, even by the powers that be, when in fact I didn't realise my posts were construed as being trolling. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HooHaa Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 the problem is in the definition. some people - nay on here many people - begin squealing troll every time they encounter a post or a poster they don't agree with or makes them uncomfortable. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachproperty Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Control the trolls?! .......and eliminate half the membership of TV.... Think Not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willyumiii Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Define Troll. The thread will develop from there. Or is this just another troll post? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What a trolling topic. Trying to invite discussions of moderation too. Shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockheed Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) The first post-thread I made TV, I got accused of being a troll but have never been called a troll elsewhere and it's a commonly used term on this site. Maybe whoever calls someone a troll needs to get booted unless they have proof. Edited February 18, 2014 by Lockheed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thailiketoo Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Define Troll. The thread will develop from there. Or is this just another troll post? Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. Poster A. writes, the sun revolves around the earth. Poster B. writes "you are an idiot." Poster C. writes, "you must be an American" Poster D. writes, "you must be a Thai." Who is the troll? Poster B of course. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 thailiketoo, on 18 Feb 2014 - 14:00, said: willyumiii, on 18 Feb 2014 - 13:39, said: Define Troll. The thread will develop from there. Or is this just another troll post? Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. Poster A. writes, the sun revolves around the earth. Poster B. writes "you are an idiot." Poster C. writes, "you must be an American" Poster D. writes, "you must be a Thai." Who is the troll? Poster B of course. But Poster D, got it right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wym Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 possible some of the trolling is to keep the "community" hit count going remember if there's no membership fee YOU are the product 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't think so, I have been accused of being a troll a few times, even by the powers that be, when in fact I didn't realise my posts were construed as being trolling. Yep, he's trolling us now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Forethat Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 In my opinion, a majority of posters on TV only ever uses the term "troll" as a confirmation of that awkward embarrassing moment when they realise they are wrong. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krisb Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Control the trolls?! .......and eliminate half the membership of TV.... Think Not I've had plenty of arguments on here and by the next thread we are friends again. It's easier to say what your really thinking from behind a keyboard. A true troll, in every sense of the word is an antagonistic pos that wakes up every day with the sole purpose of making you feel like them. Miserable. It's internet assault. Btw, trolling comes from the word trawling. To drag up crap. It's the mods job to sort this out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willyumiii Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Define Troll. The thread will develop from there. Or is this just another troll post? Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. Poster A. writes, the sun revolves around the earth. Poster B. writes "you are an idiot." Poster C. writes, "you must be an American" Poster D. writes, "you must be a Thai." Who is the troll? Poster B of course. Thanks! You have some what confirmed my definition of a troll. I think of a troll as being something like a talk show host on a news talk radio station. They do not report the news or necessarily the truth. They make comments about the news designed to get a reaction from the listing / call in audience. Many times the host will state a view or opinion that is not really his, just to stimulate caller participation in the program. This is how I see a troll poster. One who starts a provocative thread, he may or may not believe in, for the purpose of stimulating others to reply to the post. No harm, no foul. Lighten up. The worlds problems will not be solved here on TV. Don't get offended if someone accuses you of being a troll and you are not. ( I don't think you lose face for that!) Remember, many here on TV submit posts with the authority of an expert. Most are just expats, not experts! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) In my opinion, a majority of posters on TV only ever uses the term "troll" as a confirmation of that awkward embarrassing moment when they realise they are wrong. I agree. What other reason is there to call someone a troll? You must be wrong but unable to admit it. Or you just don't like someone. There must be another logical reason the other person should not be allowed to disagree with you. If he is lying call him a liar. If he posts a lunatic accusation ask him for a link. If he is off topic tell him he is off topic. There is simply no definition for troll that has any value over the root cause for calling him a troll. Troll is a made up word for wanting to censor a person for disagreeing with you. Edited February 18, 2014 by thailiketoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I just leave a comment. Im gonna have to go with answer c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think the OP, who has(d) 13 posts, is a troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Somtamnication, on 18 Feb 2014 - 14:43, said:I think the OP, who has(d) 13 posts, is a troll. Congratulations. You've just won a free trip to the moon, without return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 possible some of the trolling is to keep the "community" hit count going remember if there's no membership fee YOU are the product Take a look at Google Trends with keywords "thaivisa forum"... Interest over time is steadily decreasing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 "that internet trolls are archetypal Machiavellian sadists." someone called me? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 possible some of the trolling is to keep the "community" hit count going remember if there's no membership fee YOU are the product Take a look at Google Trends with keywords "thaivisa forum"... Interest over time is steadily decreasing Must read graphs differently. Seems to be slightly higher to me though I must admit that surprises me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seedy Posted February 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2014 Possibly the Mods could exert control, but I would not want to see it. Freedom to post what you want - within boundaries already agreed on when you signed up to not post racist, vulgar, slanderous comments, etc is important. I value the answers to questions I have asked, the opinions of others I have read, the other points of view. Helping others is always a good thing. Of course, people who do not have a clue on the subject at hand post their opinions. But I try to not return comment on replies that are either wrong, biased, or just plain stupid. I try, but do not have 100% sucess doing so. I try to consider the source, and their posts in the past. It takes all kinds. Some posters, when hearing a reply that is helpful to them, or teaches them something they did not know, refuse to accept this info. So be it. As they say in LOS - Up to You. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celso Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The 'news' forum is a cesspit of idiots repeating the same 5 clichéd arguments. Half the time im not sure if someone is being serious, or satirical in their post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 possible some of the trolling is to keep the "community" hit count going remember if there's no membership fee YOU are the product Take a look at Google Trends with keywords "thaivisa forum"... Interest over time is steadily decreasing Interesting graph on google trends. Looks like the red buffalo take over of Bangkok was great for TV.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The 'news' forum is a cesspit of idiots repeating the same 5 clichéd arguments. Half the time im not sure if someone is being serious, or satirical in their post. I might fall into that category. But I like to repeat ones that are based in fact. There are people who on many threads there will make the most outlandish statements continually. They never vary or give any source. They are the type I think who would argue with you over what time it is both using the same clock. They do it to get attention. I have noticed some of them disappearing only to come up again under another name. I think it is the moderators giving them a certain amount of rope and then pulling the chair out from under them. Then again there are the ones who will start a topic similar to this one where there can be no clear definition and if they come up with one it is useless any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't think so, I have been accused of being a troll a few times, even by the powers that be, when in fact I didn't realise my posts were construed as being trolling. That's the worst type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaraC Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If Thaivisa were to remove all the "archetypal Machiavellian sadists" from Thaivisa forum, they may end up with only a handful of members left.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don`t think there are too many trolls on Thai visa. Perhaps they post so much insignificant rubbish that they just appear to be trolls? Anyhow, I think the mods do a good job at filtering all the thrash and the real hard core trolls are usually short lived on Thai visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 possible some of the trolling is to keep the "community" hit count going remember if there's no membership fee YOU are the product Take a look at Google Trends with keywords "thaivisa forum"... Interest over time is steadily decreasing seems pretty consistent with the exception of a 2 year spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) If Thaivisa were to remove all the "archetypal Machiavellian sadists" from Thaivisa forum, they may end up with only a handful of members left.. i would say there are many here with a handful of members. At least those not clutching their thesaurus. Edited February 18, 2014 by HooHaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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