saltandpepper Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Offensive through Facebook.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lostinsurin Posted February 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2014 NACC, EC, Judges, all the so called independent "checks and balances" dont work for Thailand or the people or the constitution or the law.... they are puppets of the elites, mostly put into power via and as a result of the 2006 coup for the military to protect their interests. Straight out of the red handbook. Perhaps they should hire some semi-literate rice farmers so that they will be "better balanced". So you don't like the rice farmers again? After all that collecting money and the big Bangkok welcome you all had planed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I don't see a good end to this. If either side gains control, it's still graft and chaos. On the one hand there is proper democracy which might leave the Shinawatra clan in charge, on the other is anti-democracy Suthep. I don't even see a lesser of two evils. You're clearly not allowing yourself to see the potential advancements that could be made because you regard the current situation under the Shin clan as being a "proper democracy"...!! Actually I meant by a vote of the people which might elect the Shinawatras rather than Suthep who won't run for election taking over by more of a coup. I don't see either as a viable alternative for Thailand. My best hope is that Shinawatra resigns or is kicked out, and a whole new field of candidates runs for election. Would they also be corrupt? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 What a brave darling of Issan she is, taking the offensive from a keyboard. Show some leadership and call a press conference and make these claims in person and back them up by answering the hard questions. After all Poo has the ice-cream gang and her caddy backing her up. "What a brave darling of Issan she is,.taking the offensive from a keyboard" And Mr Waza what exactly are you then? Aren't you a keyboard warrior'? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsuar Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Blah Blah Blah ..... If the Shin Government has nothing to hide .. Just Show The Books !!! ............ SIMPLE .......and open the rice warehouses for inspection.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fryslan boppe Posted February 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Allright, now for some alternative perspectives for your consideration. Living in a sea of UDD/RS's, often some mainstream media accounts stand out for their extreme differences. The following quotes jumped out as such: >"...she appeared to show no regrets for the failure of the project and her policy" This presumes total failure as a matter-of-fact, and the total absence of success. One cannot debate that weaknesses have come forward with respect to this non-profit financial redistribution program....But it must also be considered that the Elites are opposed to such re-distribution. One often hears their mantra of demonizing 'programs and policies for ordinary people' as being populist. The Elitists share a responsibility for any failures in this non-profit agricultural price support program that they like to gloss over. Trying to lay all blame at the feet of the Govt. and their millions of electoral supporters. The Elitist active obstruction of payments to farmers is the main factor leading to its deficiencies. Preventing the Govt. from making payments and their coup-monger interruption's everywhere has a negative impact, which they self-servingly foist onto the Govt. and their millions of voter support. >"She also drew comparisons with a similar case filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva in 2009" Self-explanatory and shows the cynical duplicity of these double-standard Amart elements. >"At this point, it will be interesting to see if Yingluck's offensive ignites the sentiment of her red-shirt supporters against these two independent agencies, because, after all, she is accusing both agencies of having double standards" No ignition needed...In fact this statement is back-asswards...It is the Red Shirt supporters who have finally ignited Yingluck, about these Agencies the self-serving Elites are desperately trying to characterize as non-political. >" hosting a gathering of more than 4,000 supporters in the northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima tomorrow to launch a crusade against the anti-government crowd" The intention is not to 'launch a crusade against the anti-Govt. crowd"...It is just another gathering of the ongoing preparedness for if and when coup-mongers and all their shadowy supporters, including the judiciary, succeed in their anti-Democracy drive....They are simply insuring that Yingluck receives the support she needs and does not cave in the face of these anti-democratic forces the way Samak and Somchai did. There is no chance Suthep and his friends can be succesful. Nor the judiciary for that matter. There would be proverbial "hell to pay" let me assure you. The Korat gathering tomorrow is simply another step in the ongoing process of planning for all eventualities. Not a beginning of anything. If there was any launching of anything, that happened Post-2006. The coup-makers generated an unintended consequence that haunts their current re-incarnation to this day, and has prevented them for instigating another coup. The creation of a huge politicized swath of the electorate that will never sit around again as they did in 2006, or accept another power grab by unlectables Edited February 22, 2014 by Fryslan boppe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patpending Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So now she wants the antu graft to fire someone because they dont support the current gov. She wants every group within the gov to be a PTP member so she can do what she wants and now she wants the group that does the checks and balances to all be her supporters. Me thinks she worres that someone has some hidden fears about getting caught. Good that the anti graft committee ignored her requests to fire him. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app This would be the same the world over, except only banana republics have representatives that work in this way. I'm glad she is talking this out and through facebook as well. Let sutheps media bore its readership rigid with his propaganda and let the other side come out on FB, By far best way to get news to the population and everybody is doing it.... Dems, Korn, UDD, PRDC, thaidcmd are just a few I follow on twitter and FB. (yes, I do read everything everybody has to say). Meanwhile the Nation can fill its pages with tales of rice, tens of thousands of farmers, 6 million man marches and ruin further any little credibility it had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PREM-R Posted February 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2014 Patpending: Meanwhile the Nation can fill its pages with tales of rice, tens of thousands of farmers, 6 million man marches and ruin further any little credibility it had. Maybe Rupert Murdoch has an interest in "The Nation", remember his mantra, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 NongKhaiKid, on 22 Feb 2014 - 07:17, said:So Maggie Shinawatra has declared " the lady's not for turning " but will she try to give Suthep a ' good hand bagging ' ? Ahhhh......a good hand bagging......for a moment I missed reading the last word. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Nice move by Yingluck in making the NACC the centre of the accountability argument. Just why has abisits case not moved for years but she is suddenly fast tracked to the top of the agenda. Answers please NACC members, International community awaiting The NACC has replied. I'm sure Obama is riveted Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So Maggie Shinawatra has declared " the lady's not for turning " but will she try to give Suthep a ' good hand bagging ' ? Yingluck Shinawatra The rice snatcher Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Good, about time she started talking tough. Next, face to face confrontation with Suthep. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app she hasn't got the sack for that. On a side note: How incredibly pathetic is it that all these "Leaders of Government" make their political "Stances and Announcements" on their FaceBook page instead of publicly. How incredibly pathetic you didn't read the piece properly <quote> Her first salvo directed at the anti-graft body in relation to the controversial rice-pledging scheme came in the form of a Facebook comment posted on Thursday. This was after she had delivered a public address earlier. <end quote> Read the last sentence aloud to yourself and then find a cutsie emoticon to suit your stupidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. Good idea, let the UN check the books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drand11 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. Good idea, let the UN check the books. I would love to see the UN check the books. Do you really think there is a direct link back to Yingluk? I doubt she has any dirty intentions or dirty hands. The "Corruption" is going to be some low level dealings at the silos. You just wait. Nothing to do with Yingluk or Finance Dept. Oh..and of course, the people making the claims will be the irate farmer that "Knows all". We shall see. Obviously, I would not support Yingluk if she had a "Master PLan? for corruption. I highly doubt this to be the case. You can say the plan was ill conceived, and use your vote to remove Yingluk from office. Just don't blame the PM for low level thievery that she has no knowledge of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So now she wants the antu graft to fire someone because they dont support the current gov. She wants every group within the gov to be a PTP member so she can do what she wants and now she wants the group that does the checks and balances to all be her supporters. Me thinks she worres that someone has some hidden fears about getting caught. Good that the anti graft committee ignored her requests to fire him. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app This would be the same the world over, except only banana republics have representatives that work in this way. I'm glad she is talking this out and through facebook as well. Let sutheps media bore its readership rigid with his propaganda and let the other side come out on FB, By far best way to get news to the population and everybody is doing it.... Dems, Korn, UDD, PRDC, thaidcmd are just a few I follow on twitter and FB. (yes, I do read everything everybody has to say). Meanwhile the Nation can fill its pages with tales of rice, tens of thousands of farmers, 6 million man marches and ruin further any little credibility it had. By far FB is the absolute worst way to send news to everyone unless you are looking for gossip, self serving propoganda, and misinformation. To think that some foreigner actually believes what they read on some political page in FB truly amazes me. So if YL posts in her FB page that she will give every farang a million baht if they take a photo with her i am sure you will be first in line. The rest of the world would trust what a bum in the street says before they believe what is said in FB I am not saying the news reporting in thailand is good especially since YL and the PTP leaders are still in a SOE and censoring is their perogative. But i would surely believe it more than FB. By the way? What are you doing wasting your time here when you clearly prefer the sensationalism of FB? Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. The U.N. is not her father ... it runs in the family ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. Good idea, let the UN check the books. I would love to see the UN check the books. Do you really think there is a direct link back to Yingluk? I doubt she has any dirty intentions or dirty hands. The "Corruption" is going to be some low level dealings at the silos. You just wait. Nothing to do with Yingluk or Finance Dept. Oh..and of course, the people making the claims will be the irate farmer that "Knows all". We shall see. Obviously, I would not support Yingluk if she had a "Master PLan? for corruption. I highly doubt this to be the case. You can say the plan was ill conceived, and use your vote to remove Yingluk from office. Just don't blame the PM for low level thievery that she has no knowledge of. Low level theft? Use TV search function, and type in Forbes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. Good idea, let the UN check the books. I would love to see the UN check the books. Do you really think there is a direct link back to Yingluk? I doubt she has any dirty intentions or dirty hands. The "Corruption" is going to be some low level dealings at the silos. You just wait. Nothing to do with Yingluk or Finance Dept. Oh..and of course, the people making the claims will be the irate farmer that "Knows all". We shall see. Obviously, I would not support Yingluk if she had a "Master PLan? for corruption. I highly doubt this to be the case. You can say the plan was ill conceived, and use your vote to remove Yingluk from office. Just don't blame the PM for low level thievery that she has no knowledge of. Yingluck has stated categorically that there is no corruption in the scheme. None. Just another white lie maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 'Double standards' She also alleged that the NACC had only spent 21 days studying the case before deciding to press charges. She also drew comparisons with a similar case filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva in 2009, pointing out that the NACC had made no progress so far. She went on to say her request to replace a member of the scrutinising committee who was clearly against her government had got no response from the agency. NACC, EC, Judges, all the so called independent "checks and balances" dont work for Thailand or the people or the constitution or the law.... they are puppets of the elites, mostly put into power via and as a result of the 2006 coup for the military to protect their interests. So what you are saying is that everyone in gov that is not pulling for YL has to be a puppet for the elite thais. Whereas everyone who doesnt support YL thinks she and the PTP are puppets of Thaksin. This will never end. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 She went on to say her request to replace a member of the scrutinising committee who was clearly against her government had got no response from the agency. Is that like the civil servant that blew the whistle on corruption in the scheme that got replaced? Can't have people saying bad things about the government, can we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Nice move by Yingluck in making the NACC the centre of the accountability argument. Just why has abisits case not moved for years but she is suddenly fast tracked to the top of the agenda. Answers please NACC members, International community awaiting Welcome aboard "TheClog" Good to see another red supporter on TV your chums were being ambushed and and taken hostage by the might pen (well ... keyboard). You may need to radio back to HQ and requisition more support as your front line position is retreating. Take no prisoners! Spread no propaganda! Comrades in arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) So now she wants the antu graft to fire someone because they dont support the current gov. She wants every group within the gov to be a PTP member so she can do what she wants and now she wants the group that does the checks and balances to all be her supporters. Me thinks she worres that someone has some hidden fears about getting caught. Good that the anti graft committee ignored her requests to fire him. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Look into the facts of the investigation by the NACC only came to a decision after removing a member that other member said held up their Strictly by the book, indepth, 21 day legal investigation! Me thinks you thinks wrong, look up the fact ,I Know you will disregard them,but look it up so you know the truth! Cheers Edited February 22, 2014 by kikoman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 she try to keep power by all means, she's back to the wall...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So now she wants the antu graft to fire someone because they dont support the current gov. She wants every group within the gov to be a PTP member so she can do what she wants and now she wants the group that does the checks and balances to all be her supporters. Me thinks she worres that someone has some hidden fears about getting caught. Good that the anti graft committee ignored her requests to fire him. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Look into the facts of the investigation by the NACC only came to a decision after removing a member that other member said held up their Strictly by the book, indepth, 21 day legal investigation! Me thinks you thinks wrong, look up the fact ,I Know you will disregard them,but look it up so you know the truth! Cheers Methinks that if you have "Facts" that we should be aware of, you should be prepared to share them with us...!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecom Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluk should be very direct with the facts. She should call them out BEFORE the NACC takes action. Call them out not only to thai citizens but to the Intl community. Why cant the UN or other independent authorities be there to have impartial observation of the law/ procedures. Put the pressure back on the NACC. Because everyone is going to just say, if there was NO EVIDENCE of corruption, then the NACC could never charge her. Obviously they didn't have any EVIDENCE to charge Abhisit. Yingluck and the PTP were so obvious in their theft and scamming with their 'we can do anything we want' attitude, that it has been incredibly easy to find enough evidence to charge them remarkably quickly. While Yingluck is pushing her neck out saying 'hey, why us and not them?' She is really saying, 'OK.... we stole loads, but it's not fair that we are the ones who are getting punished'. Stop complaining about the EC, they are doing what they can in highly unusual and unprecedented election circumstances that YOU created because you called the elections in the first place while more than half the country was against them before reform which can be proved by the massive 'no votes', 'no shows' and disruptions..... Even in the face of this, you refused to postpone them. You are a caretaker government and you have messed up just about everything you have touched, you have lost this country well in excess of a trillion baht and ruined the biggest industry in Thailand that feeds a huge swathe of the country. You are the devil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suriya4 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Something very sexy about YL going on an offensive I must admit. Never seen her feisty. I am eager to see it. I'll let her beat me up, anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maeab1 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yingluck is a strawberry she only trades with gucci! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 ...stop the nonsense....this 'person' does absolutely nothing on her own...... ...but with their hands still in the cookie jars...of course, her side... will spare no expense...working 'round the clock....with the Thai peoples money... ...to keep this charade going..... ...corruption has been established...where is impeachment..... ...never mind 'new tactics'...'new strategy'....'on the offensive'.... ...playing games while the Thai people....and Thailand's future....hang in the balance..... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 'Double standards'She also alleged that the NACC had only spent 21 days studying the case before deciding to press charges. She also drew comparisons with a similar case filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva in 2009, pointing out that the NACC had made no progress so far. She went on to say her request to replace a member of the scrutinising committee who was clearly against her government had got no response from the agency. NACC, EC, Judges, all the so called independent "checks and balances" dont work for Thailand or the people or the constitution or the law.... they are puppets of the elites, mostly put into power via and as a result of the 2006 coup for the military to protect their interests. So then by your reckoning the Government should have total control? hmmm.... that sounds like a dictatorship to me. So much for your democracy cries... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) not sure if english is not your first language or you dont understand the meaning of independent... but anyhow... next time before you comment have a think before you press post. Edited February 22, 2014 by moonao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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