Criminal Court rejects CMPO’s request for arrest warrants

[Lite Beer]

Criminal Court rejects CMPO’s request for arrest warrants

BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court today (Monday) rejected the request of the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) for warrants to be issued for the arrest of 13 core members of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

The court acknowledged the defence lawyers’ argument citing the Civil Court’s ruling last week forbidding CMPO to enforce the Emergency Decree against the anti-government protesters and their leaders, including ban against dispersal of the protests and against arrest of protesters.

Anyhow, the court said that CMPO could still invoke the Criminal Code against PDRC core members.

The 13 PDRC core leaders to be arrested by CMPO include Somkiat Pongpaibul, Somsak Kosaisook, Ms Chitpat Kridagara, Seri Wongmontha, Thanom Onkatepol, Phra Suvit Thongprasert or Buddha Isara, Savit Kaewwan, Nopporn Muangtaen, Komsant Thongsiri, Sombat Thamrongthanyawong, Suchart Srisang, Sakolthee Bhatiyakul and Dr Ravee Masamadol.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/criminal-court-rejects-cmpos-request-arrest-warrants/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=criminal-court-rejects-cmpos-request-arrest-warrants

-- Thai PBS 2014-02-24

[taony]

What?

[Tatsujin]

What?

What didn't you understand?

The Courts (at the moment) have deemed the protests lawful and peaceful (whether you agree with that or not) and that the CMPO cannot use force to disperse the protestors nor arrest them under the revised rules of the SoE.

The CMPO were today trying it on again with the arrest warrants and got turned down again because that would violate the recent Court rulings (see above). The CMPO were told however they could proceed with arrest warrants based on the Criminal Code, NOT the SoE.

Got it?

[Scamper]

The Criminal Court has again defied Chalerm's claims, and has affirmed the ruling of the Civil Court. A protest which is deemed to be constitutional is to be handled as such.

[johnthompson]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

[TVGerry]

So basically the courts have told Chalerm to F off again.

CMPO would do better to protect the Thai people by going after the perpetrators who conducted this weekend's bombing attacks and not go after the victims getting bombed.

Edited February 24, 2014 by TVGerry

[Gweiloman]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

You would imagine that that is how a normal, rational, intelligent being would think. Sadly, some TV posters don't fall under that category.

[trogers]

So basically the courts have told Chalerm to F off again.

CMPO would do better to protect the Thai people by going after the perpetrators who conducted this weekend's bombing attacks and not go after the victims getting bombed.

CMPO and DSI are working for the country?

[fish fingers]

When a government ignores the constitution and misuses billions of taxes, people have a moral right to walk over their property !

[fish fingers]

Jatuporn and Chalerm shd be hung up for killing innocent children

[jonclark]

Unbelievable that the courts and are so corrupt and allowing this sort of Terrorist behavior. Shame on them.

Destroying government property and the economy and making Terroristic threats to an elected/Acting Prime Minister of a country is a form of TERRORISM.

Peaceful protesting is one thing but the conduct of these Terrorists... is ANYTHING but peaceful.

Unleash the REDs.... let them sort it all out since the Police and Army are NOT doing their jobs for different reasons.

Brilliant on one hand your calling them terrorists and on the other your calling for another group to come and 'sort them out'

Ignorance is in your case hypocrisy without even knowing it!

Surely even you know once the red have sorted them out, another group (the army?)will pop up to sort out the reds, and then another and another ad infinitum.

Violence when met with violence only leads to more violence, which in turn stimulates more violent violence. Get the picture?

PS. if you think that the PDRC are terrorists, well they are pretty crap terrorist as most of the time they're the ones getting blown up and bombed.

Edited February 24, 2014 by jonclark

[rabas]

When a government ignores the constitution and misuses billions of taxes, people have a moral right to walk over their property !

In a democracy, I believe it is a responsibility more that a right. A democracy will not function without the active participation of the populace. That is what a democracy is.

Winning a vote is not a blank check for corruption.

Another poster, elsewhere made the claim that Yingluck cannot be at fault because she was elected.

What on earth does that mean?

[than]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

This is under criminal code and not exception rules (SOE)......... Government must use criminal code for deal with protester

Use SOE to disperse protester is contrary with Universal Human Right

SOE must use to deal with highly incident in the country not to banned freedom of expression........

[fish fingers]

I see Kuka Red Shirt deleted his war cry for violence against innocent people. Or thaivisa did

Edited February 24, 2014 by fish fingers

[than]

When a government ignores the constitution and misuses billions of taxes, people have a moral right to walk over their property !

In a democracy, I believe it is a responsibility more that a right. A democracy will not function without the active participation of the populace. That is what a democracy is.

Winning a vote is not a blank check for corruption.

Another poster, elsewhere made the claim that Yingluck cannot be at fault because she was elected.

What on earth does that mean?

But now YL are losed her statue of elected PM, because she dissolved House result she's not longer member of parlemnt

[h90]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

"government property" call it "peoples property" as the people own it and it was financed with tax money.

Not the government owns it and Thaksin didn't pay for it.

[timewilltell]

Decision absolutely correct in my view. Nothing in there stops the CMPO taking a criminal action against them if it so wishes but that should follow due process since the court has already decided that the SoE cannot be used in this particular case. Sounds right and proper and following due and just procedure.

[rreddin]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

"government property" call it "peoples property" as the people own it and it was financed with tax money.

Not the government owns it and Thaksin didn't pay for it.

You can call it what you like. It does not change anything. Irrespective of how it was financed, it is government owned property not "the peoples property".

[RockyBeerbelly]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

"government property" call it "peoples property" as the people own it and it was financed with tax money.

Not the government owns it and Thaksin didn't pay for it.

You can call it what you like. It does not change anything. Irrespective of how it was financed, it is government owned property not "the peoples property".

So, what property was actually damaged/vandalised besides a Police HQ sign? I mean it isn't like these demonstrators burned down a multi billion Baht department store or something like that.....

[Baerboxer]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

You would imagine that that is how a normal, rational, intelligent being would think. Sadly, some TV posters don't fall under that category.

Idiotic response to a question. Trying to spin the response for political gain, albeit a pretty poor attempt. Post #2 explains it nicely.

The court has given clarification, again, that the protests are deemed lawful. So people committing criminal activities need to be charged under the relevant criminal code and not under the blanket SOE which the caretaker government want to use. They want the wider sweeping powers they thought and SOE would give them which could be used as a deterrent to anyone protesting. The courts have stopped them doing this. However, should someone commit an offence under law, then can be arrested and charged accordingly.

That's how normal countries work.

[rickirs]

Looks like jaywalking, loud sounds, spitting on the sidewalk, and litering violations might be the key to CMPO law enforcement.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

So is shooting and lobbing hand grenades at the protesters and their allies... But no one seems to be getting arrested for those actions either.

Weighing murder and attempted murder (including of children in the latest incidents) vs. trespassing and vandalism, which rank as the more serious offenses in your book?

Edited February 24, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[casindonet]

Can invoke SoE but cannot diperse the protesters....will not issue arrest warrant but can still arrest them. So what is the point of SoE if the police cannot disperse the crowd....and how are the police to arrest anyone without an arrest warrant. What is wrong with the court?

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[condocondo]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

I think the people own the government property and more power to them.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

You know, this has all been clearly explained earlier in this thread by other posters.

The courts have ruled the protesters have a constitutional right to protest, and have limited/restricted the police's ability to stop or break up the protests themselves.

However, with those exceptions, the regular criminal code laws still apply. So if someone kills someone or robs someone or is caught with drugs etc etc, all the normal procedures still apply.

It's really not all that complicated.

What you might be asking instead is, amid weeks of shootings and bombings aimed at the protesters that preceded the court orders you're complaining about, why haven't the police arrested AFAIK a single soul in connection with any of those crimes?

Edited February 24, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[tominbkk]

Maybe the CMPO should spend a bit more time figuring out who is lobbing grenades at the peaceful protestors?

[Crushdepth]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

You would imagine that that is how a normal, rational, intelligent being would think. Sadly, some TV posters don't fall under that category.

Apparently your opinion is not consistent with Thai law.

[metisdead]

A post containing a reference to Hitler has been removed, it is not needed, it is inflammatory, and it is hyperbolic in nature.

[LuckyLew]

Jatuporn and Chalerm shd be hung up for killing innocent children

You can add Yingluck and Thaksin to make is a foursome

[Gweiloman]

I am no judge but... protesting might be legal however trespassing on government property and vandalism seems like breaking the law

You would imagine that that is how a normal, rational, intelligent being would think. Sadly, some TV posters don't fall under that category.

Idiotic response to a question. Trying to spin the response for political gain, albeit a pretty poor attempt. Post #2 explains it nicely.

The court has given clarification, again, that the protests are deemed lawful. So people committing criminal activities need to be charged under the relevant criminal code and not under the blanket SOE which the caretaker government want to use. They want the wider sweeping powers they thought and SOE would give them which could be used as a deterrent to anyone protesting. The courts have stopped them doing this. However, should someone commit an offence under law, then can be arrested and charged accordingly.

That's how normal countries work.

Actually, I can't be bothered responding to your post but seeing that it's such a dry news day, why not have some fun, I thought.

"Idiotic response to a question"

I didn't realise there was a question? The poster johnthompson (good solid family name by the way), did not ask a question but made a comment (see post #7). I merely supplemented his comment.

"Post #2 explains it nicely"

Post #2 said What? How does that explain anything nicely ?

You then go on a rant about the SOE and criminal code and god knows what else. But since your first para was so erroneous, I must admit I didn't bother to read the rest of your post.

I'm disappointed in you Bb. You normally make fairly coherent and intelligent posts and don't insult other posters who don't share your view. You let yourself down this time with your first word.