Bad news. Better to avoid the area altogether; though this is hard for those of us who have to conduct business around these key areas. If their opposition weren't hellbent on violence, at least we could get through an otherwise peaceful demonstration.

Thai news also stated the devices appeared to have been planted from outside the site. ** Hope the posts of how this was done by PDRC don't ensue. One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders.

Also, they attempted to hit them democrat headquarters too on Setthasiri Rd... pretty frickin' obvious who is doing this....

OK Army: PTP and police are both useless and this will con't. Time to step in, toss them out and restart.

"One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders. "

you still don't understand what is going on here! - the only faction who wants to provoke a coup in Thailand is the PDRC and their backers - so yes -

One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of the recent announcement of Suthep's "End Game"!

Or why do you think has the government so carefully avoided using violence against the demonstrators?

And why do you think have there been unreported arrests of heavily armed so called PDRC "guards" almost daily - OUTSIDE the demonstration grounds? You can see pictures of their arrests including their weapons on police websites every day - the biased press does not report these arrests. Do you think these people work for the government? They work for the people behind Suthep! There is a final power struggle going on behind the scenes these people do not care how many they have to kill - for them everything is at stake!

Do you really think Suthep and his puppet masters care about how many of their own they have to kill to achieve their goal? the status quo and BILLIONS are at stake. They have already sliced up the cake - they will do anything to get their hands on the money and remain in the positions they occupy. Read Wikileaks and you understand!

I hope you are not so naive and think these demonstrations are really about a corrupt government and reforms?

20 explosions? My personal opinion is that it looks like the targeting of someone's business has made someone really mad.

And where are the police again? Months of constant bombings and they're still nowhere close to catching the culprit. I guess seeing how a policeman can go on stage and cheer the deaths at Trat, the police don't really want to catch these people do they? Face it, if this continues and the so called police don't do their jobs, the army might have to.

Perhaps they got the hump with their colleaugue getting his leg blown off? The police are dogs with no teeth. It's perfect timing for people to settle their old scores and blame one side or theother. Sickening is an understatement.

Bad news. Better to avoid the area altogether; though this is hard for those of us who have to conduct business around these key areas. If their opposition weren't hellbent on violence, at least we could get through an otherwise peaceful demonstration.

Thai news also stated the devices appeared to have been planted from outside the site. ** Hope the posts of how this was done by PDRC don't ensue. One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders.

Also, they attempted to hit them democrat headquarters too on Setthasiri Rd... pretty frickin' obvious who is doing this....

OK Army: PTP and police are both useless and this will con't. Time to step in, toss them out and restart.

"One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders. "

you still don't understand what is going on here! - the only faction who wants to provoke a coup in Thailand is the PDRC and their backers - so yes -

One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of the recent announcement of Suthep's "End Game"!

Or why do you think has the government so carefully avoided using violence against the demonstrators?

And why do you think have there been unreported arrests of heavily armed so called PDRC "guards" almost daily - OUTSIDE the demonstration grounds? You can see pictures of their arrests including their weapons on police websites every day - the biased press does not report these arrests. Do you think these people work for the government? They work for the people behind Suthep! There is a final power struggle going on behind the scenes these people do not care how many they have to kill - for them everything is at stake!

Do you really think Suthep and his puppet masters care about how many of their own they have to kill to achieve their goal? the status quo and BILLIONS are at stake. They have already sliced up the cake - they will do anything to get their hands on the money and remain in the positions they occupy. Read Wikileaks and you understand!

I hope you are not so naive and think these demonstrations are really about a corrupt government and reforms?

I think you're thr first person on TV I've ever agreed with. It's only about one thing - snouts at the trough. End of. No care how many people get bulldozed on the way, sickening.

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Stay on topic, be civil and mature in your posts, or head elsewhere thanks.

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Abbreviating profanity does not excuse it.

I pray for a swift comfortable recovery for the poor injured people, and also for the extremists on both sides to start showing some long overdue restraint, wisdom and compassion. It is never too late to join the civilised majority. I would urge them to do this before even one more person is so much as bruised.

Let's make a start.....in the TV news forum. Seems to be very few posters advocating a step back from the edge.....I only see BS point scoring as soon as the next incident is reported. Child like is what it is.

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Some of you more astute trackers can find the article, but when this shut down BKK movement started rolling the police were specifically told to stay away by Suthep et al, and this was underscored by the army. So now crying for the police to come save them, yet were sent them away with threats, well... you made your bed, now sleep in it. I in no way condone this cowardly bs that is going down, btw.

I refer you to 2010, 2007 and the various Songkran riots. What did the police do? Nothing.

If you want something done call the army. The police are not interested.

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Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

You have got to be joking. Normal laws are still in place & should be enforced. Shootings & bombings don't just come under emergency decree rules.

Perhaps Prbkk can provide us with some examples of where the police have done their job since the protests began appertaining to arresting and charging anyone with attacks on protesters?

The four men caught with an assortment of weapons including grenades - just had them for self defense. The lady caught driving the car from which shots were fired at protesters - all gone quiet. The guy caught on cctv lobbing a grenade - all gone quiet. In fact no arrests or charges so far. Cracking effort - almost as selective as their pals at the DSI.

This could be a statement from the private sector - what planet are you from? That's absurd even for you.

"provide us with some examples of where the police have done their job since the protests began";

• warrants for the arrest of 4 soldiers for the attempted assassination of Kwanchai
• arrest warrants denied by court for the popcorn terrorists in the Laksi gun battle
• detention of several PRDC guards with possession of weapons and drugs
• confiscation of untold weaponry from PRDC protest sights.....sorry list definitely not exhaustive

. being unable to prevent grenade attacks against those bothersome anti-government protesters

. being deaf to not hear four hours of regularly shots and blasts

. being able to blame protesters for all violence against them.

. etc., etc.

It would seem that any violence against the anti-government protesters is to be ignored, "worked on, don't call us, we'll call you" style.

Shame on the police. Shame on the government. Shame on the Chinese Shin clan. But. . Karma is a bitch when it catches up. Horrified by the police guy in Trat it only goes to show what the people are up against. Still think they all need to look for common ground. There s only one man that can stop this. He doesn t live here.

Disgusting Red Trash.

you deserve NOTHING!

all those explosions all those attacks and only slightly injured! now who was bombing who?

Bombing the protesting sites is a one of the strategies to get rip of the protesters. As soon as the farmers left, more explosions started.

There is no physical evidence to these attacks but we can guess who would be motivated to organize these attacks behind the scene.

Both sides are not giving in and these attacks won't help the situation at all.

Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

You have got to be joking. Normal laws are still in place & should be enforced. Shootings & bombings don't just come under emergency decree rules.

If you were a cop would you want to go into the PDRC rally areas and risk being beaten to a pulp? Police arrive in numbers and it can only end up in confrontation. Seems like the PDRC guards are armed as well. What do you think is going to happen when police arrive?

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Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

A statement from the private sector?! I would accuse you of "just joking" but I know you would never joke about ongoing indiscriminate attacks leading to the death and dismemberment of innocent people, including children. But if you're not just joking, I find the logic of your speculation unfathomable, because since when have private sectors anywhere encouraged violent disorder and mayhem? Businesses require order, predictability, and the rule of law, implemented justly.

You know perfectly well who the mastermind of these attacks is. And yet you persist in trying to divert attention and muddy the waters even as people are being killed and maimed. I would have a hard time playing such a frankly deceitful and unconscionable role myself; I simply couldn't pull it off. And I suspect most people would find it just as difficult as I would.

Most of the comments made here are pure speculation anyway, including yours. You seem to be sure that the man in Dubai planned and ordered this attack or has ordered other attacks. Please provide us all with some evidence of this. There is such hatred by many here against Thaksin, it clouds thinking. Many seem to think this is some kind of scripted event and Thaksin is writing the play by play script. Suthep is the man that is responsible for the demonstrations which have been occurring over the last four months. The events have spun out of control and I sincerely doubt there is anyone scripting anything at this point. I believe that lots of people have reached the burning point. There are all sorts of factions out there now each with a different agenda that can bring about violence for any number of reasons. Stop speculating on who is responsible as that is exactly the type of thing that fuels more speculation and only creates inaccurate rumors. For all we know it could be the Army doing this in order to step in. It could be Suthep's people creating problems so the Army to step in. So in reality it is all just speculation. I am sure there are many out there that might have reason to violently disrupt these so called peaceful demonstrations for what they think might be their gain. Certainly Thaksin has little to gain if events spiral out of control and the Army does indeed step in.

At this point I still want to know what Suthep really wants. Lots of talk, no specifics. First question I would ask Suthep, if I was given the chance as a reporter to interview him, is what changes he wants his unelected council to make in the constitution which he thinks will fix things. Ultimately the constitution is the underlying document that provides the framework for how things work. He and his group don't seem to like how things work so he must want to make changes. What are the changes he would make?

As for Yingluck, you may not like her, you may not like her brother, but why would anyone expect a prime minister to step down because a few thousand people continue to disrupt normal activity in a capital city, particularly when she does actually seem to have considerable support of a majority of the people. I would understand if it was hundreds of thousands, but a rock group would turn out more people than Suthep has done. She dissolved the government, provided elections under the constitution and it was Suthep and the Democrats who not only refused to participate but blocked the electoral process. It looks to me that Suthep keeps pushing not for democracy but for Yingluck out and a fix in the constitution to allow his brethren more political power than can be voted fairly in an election. Politics is about winning the people with their view of how things should be. Suthep is not attempting to do it in a democratic fashion but by appointing an unelected council to no doubt "fix" the constitution. I believe this is the reason for the divide here on this forum between those that support working within the system and therefore support Yingluck even though they might prefer another person and those who just want her out because she is a Shinawatra and support Suthep even if his methods are less than democratic.

Sure the PTP tried their amnesty bill. It failed and brought out the people. The PTP will not bring this up again. This has probably finished Thaksin in so far as being able to return under any kind of amnesty. Those in the PTP want to keep their own positions and perks and won't risk another try at it. That is over in my mind. So it is time for Suthep to come to the table and tell the government what it is he wants and just maybe they can agree on a few things that will move the country forward. Neither side wins from the disruption going on currently.

Those injured and killed in this ongoing discord have in my mind died foolishly for a fight over power between the corrupt political leaders on both sides. It has been my experience that most political leaders in all countries are in the game for their own selfishness, egos, or pushing through their vision of how things should be. They generally do not do much to make things better for the masses. Why would I give my life for a corrupt politician on one side or the other. I would not take a bullet for the President of the USA (we elect a Vice President to take over) he is just a politician, nothing more nothing less. I certainly would not bring my child to a rally where potential for violence exists. At one of the early rallies on Silom last December people seemed to think they were at a street fair. Take the vendors away and those passing by you clean up the site considerably. The violence has started, maybe time to pack up and go home rather than risking your life to oust one group of corrupt politicians for another group of corrupt politicians. If Suthep really wants change and he is what he says he is it is time for him to negotiate with the government for some needed changes which all can agree on and go home. Time for Yingluck to either win an election or go home and if she's a winner time to stop the rampant corruption at all levels of government. I really don't believe that she is personally profiting from most of what goes on. She (1) isn't foolish enough to do something at which she may get caught and (2) doesn't need the money enough to threaten her position. Many would disagree but I really don't think she is that stupid at this point in the game.

Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

You have got to be joking. Normal laws are still in place & should be enforced. Shootings & bombings don't just come under emergency decree rules.

If you were a cop would you want to go into the PDRC rally areas and risk being beaten to a pulp? Police arrive in numbers and it can only end up in confrontation. Seems like the PDRC guards are armed as well. What do you think is going to happen when police arrive?

What do I think is going to happen when the police arrive?

I think they will look for ways to make money

Bad news. Better to avoid the area altogether; though this is hard for those of us who have to conduct business around these key areas. If their opposition weren't hellbent on violence, at least we could get through an otherwise peaceful demonstration.

Thai news also stated the devices appeared to have been planted from outside the site. ** Hope the posts of how this was done by PDRC don't ensue. One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders.

Also, they attempted to hit them democrat headquarters too on Setthasiri Rd... pretty frickin' obvious who is doing this....

OK Army: PTP and police are both useless and this will con't. Time to step in, toss them out and restart.

"One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders. "

you still don't understand what is going on here! - the only faction who wants to provoke a coup in Thailand is the PDRC and their backers - so yes -

One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of the recent announcement of Suthep's "End Game"!

Or why do you think has the government so carefully avoided using violence against the demonstrators?

And why do you think have there been unreported arrests of heavily armed so called PDRC "guards" almost daily - OUTSIDE the demonstration grounds? You can see pictures of their arrests including their weapons on police websites every day - the biased press does not report these arrests. Do you think these people work for the government? They work for the people behind Suthep! There is a final power struggle going on behind the scenes these people do not care how many they have to kill - for them everything is at stake!

Do you really think Suthep and his puppet masters care about how many of their own they have to kill to achieve their goal? the status quo and BILLIONS are at stake. They have already sliced up the cake - they will do anything to get their hands on the money and remain in the positions they occupy. Read Wikileaks and you understand!

I hope you are not so naive and think these demonstrations are really about a corrupt government and reforms?

If you've read the cables then you should know that the other side isn't any better.

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so much for the police doing their job, yl is full of sh*t and we all know that there is no way in hell the police will help arrest any red shirt scum as it will derail the ptp completely to have their "red army" directly shown to be murdering innocent people. Yl, chalerm and the rest of the ptp scum are simply letting the reds terrorize anyone that doesnt agree with them, they dont care about the country, only their personal bank accounts.

What a lot of people do not reealize especially foreigners is that the Police ARE the Red shirts.

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Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

A statement from the private sector?! I would accuse you of "just joking" but I know you would never joke about ongoing indiscriminate attacks leading to the death and dismemberment of innocent people, including children. But if you're not just joking, I find the logic of your speculation unfathomable, because since when have private sectors anywhere encouraged violent disorder and mayhem? Businesses require order, predictability, and the rule of law, implemented justly.

You know perfectly well who the mastermind of these attacks is. And yet you persist in trying to divert attention and muddy the waters even as people are being killed and maimed. I would have a hard time playing such a frankly deceitful and unconscionable role myself; I simply couldn't pull it off. And I suspect most people would find it just as difficult as I would.

Why do you people need to see the 'invisible hand' behind every atrocity? Why cannot this be the work of extremists who support Thaksin or Yingluck but who don't have their support in return?

Please someone explain to me what would either Yingluck or Thaksin have to gain from these acts of violence. Everyone knows they will not cause the protesters to pack up and go home. More likely, they will cause the army to intervene, which, like last time, will benefit the Dems rather than the PTP.

Good point, but I think many of us who understand the culture tend to notice that Thais are usually unable to act or think for themselves and usually require a big boss to tell them what to do. It could be extremists, but given what I know about how Thailand works I would think there probably is an "invisible hand"

Disgusting Red Trash.

you deserve NOTHING!

Say what you feel Larry, don't hold back now!.

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A statement from the private sector?! I would accuse you of "just joking" but I know you would never joke about ongoing indiscriminate attacks leading to the death and dismemberment of innocent people, including children. But if you're not just joking, I find the logic of your speculation unfathomable, because since when have private sectors anywhere encouraged violent disorder and mayhem? Businesses require order, predictability, and the rule of law, implemented justly.

You know perfectly well who the mastermind of these attacks is. And yet you persist in trying to divert attention and muddy the waters even as people are being killed and maimed. I would have a hard time playing such a frankly deceitful and unconscionable role myself; I simply couldn't pull it off. And I suspect most people would find it just as difficult as I would.

Why do you people need to see the 'invisible hand' behind every atrocity? Why cannot this be the work of extremists who support Thaksin or Yingluck but who don't have their support in return?

Please someone explain to me what would either Yingluck or Thaksin have to gain from these acts of violence. Everyone knows they will not cause the protesters to pack up and go home. More likely, they will cause the army to intervene, which, like last time, will benefit the Dems rather than the PTP.

Good point, but I think many of us who understand the culture tend to notice that Thais are usually unable to act or think for themselves and usually require a big boss to tell them what to do. It could be extremists, but given what I know about how Thailand works I would think there probably is an "invisible hand"

Sure, I'm not saying a bunch of disgruntled PTP supporters are having some shots of see sip, grabbing their grenade launchers from the back shed, then driving into town to cause havoc. There's clearly been a degree of organisation in some of the attacks (especially the latest). My point is that there will be individuals far down the power structure who see the present circumstances as an opportunity to gain power and influence themselves ... remember that creating a 'follower-ship' can be a big ego-feed for some. They may even believe that the PTP/Red leadership is going too soft on the protesters and have convinced others that things need to be settled in a 'more direct way', or perhaps they just found some like-minded individuals in need of someone to coordinate them.

One can see this sort of process repeatedly in history, especially in decolonisation and civil rights movements, where you can have the main leadership advocating peaceful means while a small 'rogue' element uses violence (e.g., the creation of Israel, the US civil rights movement, the anti-apartheid movement, etc.).

The red shirt army only act when marching orders are given from the top.

Unfair, they also require adequate-funding, before any action beyond-mere-words is taken !

20 explosions? My personal opinion is that it looks like the targeting of someone's business has made someone really mad.

And where are the police again? Months of constant bombings and they're still nowhere close to catching the culprit. I guess seeing how a policeman can go on stage and cheer the deaths at Trat, the police don't really want to catch these people do they? Face it, if this continues and the so called police don't do their jobs, the army might have to.

These people do not target...the bombs have no rhyme or reason. They carelessly toss them and run. Not much thinking involved...and certainly not intelligent person would sympathize with them.

this is now becoming a daily occurence,often in more than one location,and now we have seen it starting to spread outside Bangkok,as the incidents grow in number the perpertators seem to have no fear of being caught or stopped,this is historically how a lot of civil wars start,attacks and shooting multiply and spread and before you know it you have war.

Bad news. Better to avoid the area altogether; though this is hard for those of us who have to conduct business around these key areas. If their opposition weren't hellbent on violence, at least we could get through an otherwise peaceful demonstration.

Thai news also stated the devices appeared to have been planted from outside the site. ** Hope the posts of how this was done by PDRC don't ensue. One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders.

Also, they attempted to hit them democrat headquarters too on Setthasiri Rd... pretty frickin' obvious who is doing this....

OK Army: PTP and police are both useless and this will con't. Time to step in, toss them out and restart.

"One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of recent red rallies and leaders. "

you still don't understand what is going on here! - the only faction who wants to provoke a coup in Thailand is the PDRC and their backers - so yes -

One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of the recent announcement of Suthep's "End Game"!

Or why do you think has the government so carefully avoided using violence against the demonstrators?

And why do you think have there been unreported arrests of heavily armed so called PDRC "guards" almost daily - OUTSIDE the demonstration grounds? You can see pictures of their arrests including their weapons on police websites every day - the biased press does not report these arrests. Do you think these people work for the government? They work for the people behind Suthep! There is a final power struggle going on behind the scenes these people do not care how many they have to kill - for them everything is at stake!

Do you really think Suthep and his puppet masters care about how many of their own they have to kill to achieve their goal? the status quo and BILLIONS are at stake. They have already sliced up the cake - they will do anything to get their hands on the money and remain in the positions they occupy. Read Wikileaks and you understand!

I hope you are not so naive and think these demonstrations are really about a corrupt government and reforms?

you still don't understand what is going on here! - the only faction who wants to provoke a coup in Thailand is the PDRC and their backers - so yes -

One can see the obvious connection between the escalation of more numerous attacks corresponding with the clear intentions of the recent announcement of Suthep's "End Game"!

Or why do you think has the government so carefully avoided using violence against the demonstrators?

And why do you think have there been unreported arrests of heavily armed so called PDRC "guards" almost daily - OUTSIDE the demonstration grounds? You can see pictures of their arrests including their weapons on police websites every day - the biased press does not report these arrests. Do you think these people work for the government? They work for the people behind Suthep! There is a final power struggle going on behind the scenes these people do not care how many they have to kill - for them everything is at stake!

Do you really think Suthep and his puppet masters care about how many of their own they have to kill to achieve their goal? the status quo and BILLIONS are at stake. They have already sliced up the cake - they will do anything to get their hands on the money and remain in the positions they occupy. Read Wikileaks and you understand!

I hope you are not so naive and think these demonstrations are really about a corrupt government and reforms?

I think we might be too naive to think the truth is as obvious and simple as written here.

Could it be what the person whom behind this want us to believe army are responsible for

All the killings? I have my doubt.

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Who knows who is responsible...this could quite easily be a 'statement' from the private sector. Unsurprising that the police are able to do little....a combination of constraints by the courts and the bashing/interrogation they get from the buddhist monk, very difficult for them to function effectively

You have got to be joking. Normal laws are still in place & should be enforced. Shootings & bombings don't just come under emergency decree rules.

Perhaps Prbkk can provide us with some examples of where the police have done their job since the protests began appertaining to arresting and charging anyone with attacks on protesters?The four men caught with an assortment of weapons including grenades - just had them for self defense. The lady caught driving the car from which shots were fired at protesters - all gone quiet. The guy caught on cctv lobbing a grenade - all gone quiet. In fact no arrests or charges so far. Cracking effort - almost as selective as their pals at the DSI.This could be a statement from the private sector - what planet are you from? That's absurd even for you.

"provide us with some examples of where the police have done their job since the protests began";

• warrants for the arrest of 4 soldiers for the attempted assassination of Kwanchai
• arrest warrants denied by court for the popcorn terrorists in the Laksi gun battle
• detention of several PRDC guards with possession of weapons and drugs
• confiscation of untold weaponry from PRDC protest sights.....sorry list definitely not exhaustive

All these examples show police force target only on enemy of the government , on the other hand supporters of government are free to release their anger with violent . I would not support this government if this happen

In my own country. Would you?

The military now have a sizable force at Silom, this madness is drawing to an end.

mercenaries paid for by businessmen who livelihoods are going down the drain .many must be verging on collapse .

mercenaries paid for by businessmen who livelihoods are going down the drain .many must be verging on collapse .

Or boy scouts trying for their "Indiscriminate Murder" badge. Anybody but the most likely candidates.

Now that the military have decided that enough is enough, normality will return, the Shins thugs will face the reality of the Thai Military in full combat mode. They may burn a few buildings, cause some disruption but Bangkok will return to normal business quickly enough. The courts need to proceed to put the Shins under arrest and freeze the extended family wealth..

One the money stops flowing to the PDP their loaylty to the Shins will evaporate as was evident with the rice debacle.