Deputy govt spokeswoman Sunisa detained by PDRC

[silent]

It is getting crazier.

The opposition can do the same. There always exist people who are extreme.

It looks like this political conflict won't end very quickly. More violence yet to come.

It is better to stay away from the area.

Not really. It'd be a step in the right direction to take them all into protective custody.

[pookiki]

ShannonT, on 26 Feb 2014 - 06:29, said:

Do these guards have the authority by law to detain people at will now?

She was detained on a public street, not on private property. Siam Square doesn't belong to the Suthep militants.

Sick bunch of people.

This was preventive protection as it was not clear if she would be bothered by some protesters. She is a police officer and part of the Red Shirts who are the ennemy of our nation, she should have known that it is not wise to get near to the protest site. Either she is plainly silly (which is possible) or she deliberately staged this knowing that the guards will have to protect her and the illegitimate government able to profit from its news.

So, is this the same as the PDRC staging a demonstration in Chiang Mai? Plainly silly?

[Greenhill]

Just complete anarchy here now!! This incident is a disgrace! Is there no police force here for 'good', or do they really only do anything, when bribed?

[Suriya4]

Just complete anarchy here now!! This incident is a disgrace! Is there no police force here for 'good', or do they really only do anything, when bribed?

Please ask the civil court for your answer.

[Bluespunk]

Only one word for it............Kidnapping.

Sunisa should make a formal complaint to the police to have the protest leaders arrested.

The protest leader ordered her release.

Ha. Ha., just how naive can you get. This was all set up by Suthep, so that he could "play" the good guy card. Wake up!

Evidence?

[Greenhill]

Just complete anarchy here now!! This incident is a disgrace! Is there no police force here for 'good', or do they really only do anything, when bribed?

Please ask the civil court for your answer.

When a person out on their own, or with others, is held without their permission - this is not a civil matter, it's kidnap - a police matter in a civilised society!

[NoshowJones]

Suthep has created a monster he increasingly no longer has control of.

The previous corrupt government may seem like heaven compared to the anarchy that is about to ensue.

Perspective, please. The pro-government side has already assassinated one of the protest leaders on a public road, while he was not even engaged in a protest.

Are you really sure about that? Or is it just your opinion?

[Goat Roper]

This must have been most distressing and alarming for this young lady; mob rule is very ghastly.

Do you know who she is and what she wants for Thailand? Being detained is nothing. Many have been detained here in Thailand. Detained has nothing to do with 'kidnapping' and is not the same thing!

[silent]

I think that's called kidnapping. Or maybe false imprisonment?

Have the courts granted some extra powers to the guards.

Wow, kidnapping and false imprisonment.

It's an authority under the Child Welfare Act that requires a responsible person witnessing

abuse or neglect, to consider the child to be in need of protection and forthwith notify the Children's Aid Society, or be liable for prosecution.

Or have I got my laws and countries screwed up again?

[Crushdepth]

Just complete anarchy here now!! This incident is a disgrace! Is there no police force here for 'good', or do they really only do anything, when bribed?

Please ask the civil court for your answer.

When a person out on their own, or with others, is held without their permission - this is not a civil matter, it's kidnap - a police matter in a civilised society!

Getting escorted off the premises is better than getting mugged by a mob, isn't it?

I can think of a few cases where guards on both sides have saved someone from the 'opposition' having the shit kicked out of them.

[ABCer]

I always thought that Thais copy their laws from the West.

Even if they do not understand them.

And if they do - they never have any desire of observing them.

And if they want to observe them they are not inclined to enforce them.

Question: Is there a law in Thailand about illegal, unlawful detention?

Oops, sorry. I forgot that the persons are unknown and cannot be found...

[mrtoad]

It's smells like a PTP pr stunt to be honest, especially with the odious Amsterdam posting about it. They like to play the victim card as often as possible.

[lannathai]

The beauty clinic confirmed yesterday that this woman has never been their customer.

https://www.facebook.com/nitiponclinic

They said they checked with all branches in Bangkok if she's ever been to any of their clinics and found that she's never visited any of them.

They have proof that she's a customer of a beauty clinic in Pathumwan, however that clinic is not nearby the protest site.

Lastly, they confirmed there was no violence being witnessed by their employees. They suggested Matichon newspaper might get confused with the clinic name. LOL this is a big slab in the face for Matichon.

This woman is nothing but a kind of media whore. She just loves to be in the news. One of Thaksin's lap dog indeed. This news mean nothing to Thai people because they know her very well. However this government really LOVES to portrait the anti government protesters negatively to the world community.

You know Thaksin's thugs just bombed and murdered many young children, they will have to make up something to balance the negative news, like PDRC detaining this helpless little woman. Fortunately more and more Thai people are getting used to his tactics and they won't repeat the same mistakes. Thaksin's lies and his love for violence will open more people eyes. If you live in Thailand long enough you will see through this.

Now Thaksin is going full blown on terrorism. He will get his red militant to go after the courts for potentially jailing Yingluck on the rice scheme, the flood recovery corruption, etc. Thaksin is the mastermind of all recent violence in Thailand. Go ahead if you want to support him . This man cares nothing about human being lives. He would kill his supporters too if he can get the benefit from it, like what happened in 2010.

[Local Drunk]

Why was she really there? She's a "True Believer" in the Shin cause. No one of her status in the government would be caught dead in Siam. So either it was a set up and she was willing to sacrifice her safety and perhaps her life for the cause of her master and to make some points for her team, or she's just bloody stupid beyond belief. My guess is the latter. Giving the way things are going in Siam at the moment... the clinic was probably offering a skin whitening deal that was too good for her to resist.

[TheReporter]

This incident is clearly a kidnapping and hostage taking of a government official, which is against the law in Thailand. The PDRC guards have no official authority to detain or take anyone in custody for any reasons; other than to provide security the protest sites and intervene in situations where imminent threat has been made against the protestors. In the case of Ms. Sunisa being at a public location doing her own business which has no imminent threat to the protestors and she was taken in custody and held against her will for an hour is a very serious violation of the law. The best thing for PDRC is to hand those guards over to the appropriate authority for criminal prosecution, as this will show that the leadership within PDRC is actually capable of understanding and adhering to the rule of law. Doing anything short of handing them for criminal prosecution will show that the leadership of PDRC are just as nomads and have no respect for the rule of law, so should they ever be at the helm, ordinary citizens as well as anyone (tourists and foreigners) in Thailand can be subjected to unlawful detention and arrest, which can easily turn into extortion and intimidation.

[AjarnMartin]

Suthep has created a monster he increasingly no longer has control of.

The previous corrupt government may seem like heaven compared to the anarchy that is about to ensue.

Perspective, please. The pro-government side has already assassinated one of the protest leaders on a public road, while he was not even engaged in a protest.

Where is the proof that he was assassinated by a pro-government side?

Otherwise you are rumor mongering, which is against forum rules. And it's off-topic anyways. Stick to the topic please.

Solipsism

Solecism?

[Fat Haggis]

 

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

Spying Mission ? ARE YOU SERIOUS

The mind boggles at some of these stupid posts.

Like Yingluck, all she could do was cry (see photo link).

http://pbs.twim'g.com/media/BhUpv5aIEAARIER.jpg

Unlike other plain cloth police found spying, the guards and protesters didn't even beat her up.

Next time, the guards should have send her to the Monk before release.

 

Are you condoning the incident? sounds very like it ??, I wonder how you would feel the next time you're out, some people physically remove you from a shop or outside a shop where you have NO idea what's about to happen to you then?? Stupid comment to make.

The protestors are supposed to be peaceful are they not, so why should ANYONE feel threatened by them ??

Oh that's right, they're becoming fanatical that's why. You do realise that in some countries anyone coming into your personal space blowing whistles etc can be classed as an assault? I wonder how you would feel next time someone blows an airhorn in your ear, that you will brush it off as nothing??

[metisdead]

A post that messed up the formatting on this page has been removed.

Off topic posts and replies have been removed as well.

[gemini81]

Is anybody still wondering why YL is spending most of her time in hiding?

Sutheps thugs are detaining people in the street and holding them for questioning, it is about time that the thugs were brought to book. Poor girl must have been terrified, she is only just older than a child. (and very pretty)

No- because she is incompetent, guilty of consequences and doesn't wanna face the music is why she's hiding....the PM bunker as insisted by her big brother

The girl: looks don't fit into this equation, and she's no child- and what was she doing in the area knowing full well is high risk; whether tourist or local; especially given her status- idiot walking into the pit of fire.

Wasn't she released?

Thugs? How about the police-booth like set up in korat, preventing anyone resembling a freedom lover to go past their check points- just to get started.

Guess what goes around comes around huh? But posters leave out the root cause again and again and fail to see the reaction to it- and the reactions are far less violent than the pheua thai supporters and THUGS.

You're about as overly dramatic as a Thai drama show-you been watching them too much or what?

Edited February 26, 2014 by gemini81

[mrtoad]

Why was she really there? She's a "True Believer" in the Shin cause. No one of her status in the government would be caught dead in Siam. So either it was a set up and she was willing to sacrifice her safety and perhaps her life for the cause of her master and to make some points for her team, or she's just bloody stupid beyond belief. My guess is the latter. Giving the way things are going in Siam at the moment... the clinic was probably offering a skin whitening deal that was too good for her to resist.

I happen to agree that there is a lot more to this whole story, and Sunisa is certainly not one to be trusted. It all seems to staged to be fair. The clinic are also denying her story as well. Considering the other lies that PTP have pushed into the media, this ones quite small.

[chooka]

Just complete anarchy here now!! This incident is a disgrace! Is there no police force here for 'good', or do they really only do anything, when bribed?

Please ask the civil court for your answer.

When a person out on their own, or with others, is held without their permission - this is not a civil matter, it's kidnap - a police matter in a civilised society!

Getting escorted off the premises is better than getting mugged by a mob, isn't it?

I can think of a few cases where guards on both sides have saved someone from the 'opposition' having the shit kicked out of them.

Big premises if it takes an hour just to get to the door.

[Suriya4]

 

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

Spying Mission ? ARE YOU SERIOUS

The mind boggles at some of these stupid posts.

Like Yingluck, all she could do was cry (see photo link).

http://pbs.twim'g.com/media/BhUpv5aIEAARIER.jpg

Unlike other plain cloth police found spying, the guards and protesters didn't even beat her up.

Next time, the guards should have send her to the Monk before release.

 

Are you condoning the incident? sounds very like it ??, I wonder how you would feel the next time you're out, some people physically remove you from a shop or outside a shop where you have NO idea what's about to happen to you then?? Stupid comment to make.

The protestors are supposed to be peaceful are they not, so why should ANYONE feel threatened by them ??

Oh that's right, they're becoming fanatical that's why. You do realise that in some countries anyone coming into your personal space blowing whistles etc can be classed as an assault? I wonder how you would feel next time someone blows an airhorn in your ear, that you will brush it off as nothing??

As long as the protesters and guards carry no weapons, they are considered peaceful and rightful by the court.

Sorry, the court won't hear your argument. You have to proof that she is taken by arms bearing guards. Else she is old enough to simply say "NO".

(Very similar to rape case, when the victim initially consented, but later change their mind).

Edited February 26, 2014 by Suriya4

[sidewaysallwayz]

Hopefully it doesn't get worse

[cnxdefyer]

K Sunisa is a Police 1st Lieutenant, a well known government spokesman and Yingluck assistant!

She is understandably viewed by the protesters as "the enemy"!

The Guard rushed to PROTECT her!

They took her away from the cloud and cooled dawn the people.

When everything was safe, they escorted her safely to the nearest BTS station.

The major question here is => Why do you think she went in the middle of the protest?

Is she really stupid? Or, more likely, trying to do bad publicity to the PDRC!?

I think thats the right question. What was she doing there? a highly recognizable person in a very public place in the middle of protest zone. I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to go where she wants, but come on!!! Does common sense mean anything? it's just seems like she wanted an incident to happen. I'm glad that nothing happened to her, but evryone is saying the guards are thugs, doesn't look like they did anything to her. Either way you look at it, its going to be bad. If the protesters turned violent, or the guards helping her, doesn't matter. Just glad that she got out safe, don't want to see anymore deaths and injuries. Common sense people, there's more to this than just a woman shopping. How many malls are there in Bangkok? All in all...you gotta admit the whistle blowing to point out the corruption is very funny. I can picture it in a local market, just seems funny in a mall. LoL

[gemini81]

Do these guards have the authority by law to detain people at will now?

She was detained on a public street, not on private property. Siam Square doesn't belong to the Suthep militants.

Sick bunch of people.

I couldn't go to my office in 2010 when the Red "militants" had taken over Rajaprason square then start "burning down bangkok"

BTW, getting tired of reporting posts? Grow up little girl.

One minute he/she is the expert and the speaker of all that is justice and knows all; next minute, the most basic rudimentary questions of law-interesting huh?

I see all this as a response to what occurred in 2010. Fortunately, it is much lighter a reaction that the actions of 2010 by the pheua thai fiefdom pawn thugs. No one storming hospitals and other out of this world ludicrous actions (with no consequences). Its pretty one sided due to who is in office- reds free reign to do anything, the opposition give someone the wrong look- and its terms like fascism and thuggery, thrown around. silly really- you'd expect more from the (mostly western) expats; or so I would have thought.

Edited February 26, 2014 by gemini81

[Fat Haggis]

 

 

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

Spying Mission ? ARE YOU SERIOUS

The mind boggles at some of these stupid posts.

Like Yingluck, all she could do was cry (see photo link).

http://pbs.twim'g.com/media/BhUpv5aIEAARIER.jpg

Unlike other plain cloth police found spying, the guards and protesters didn't even beat her up.

Next time, the guards should have send her to the Monk before release.

 

Are you condoning the incident? sounds very like it ??, I wonder how you would feel the next time you're out, some people physically remove you from a shop or outside a shop where you have NO idea what's about to happen to you then?? Stupid comment to make.

The protestors are supposed to be peaceful are they not, so why should ANYONE feel threatened by them ??

Oh that's right, they're becoming fanatical that's why. You do realise that in some countries anyone coming into your personal space blowing whistles etc can be classed as an assault? I wonder how you would feel next time someone blows an airhorn in your ear, that you will brush it off as nothing??

As long as the protesters and guards carry no weapons, they are considered peaceful and rightful by the court.

Sorry, the court won't hear your argument. You have to proof that she is taken by arms bearing guards. Else she is old enough to simply say "NO".

(Very similar to rape case, when the victim initially consented, but later change their mind).

 

Utter nonesense, so you're saying that to forcibly remove someone from a location against their will, or knowledge that unless they're armed, it's alright to do so?

IF they were there to PROTECT her from harm, why not escort her to an office INSIDE, and then alert the Police and tell her, we're doing this for your protection? And then take go and get the Police so they can escort her out of there!

Spin it all you want, it was wrong for guards to act in the manner they did.NO Public access area should be off limits, there was an incident involving some guards in the park yesterday too, or a few days ago where they were roughing up an individual that was caught photographed by a farang, they got a little bit upset about that.

It's NOT the first time the PDRC guards have been overzealous is it?

[Sheryl]

an off topic post removed.

[casualbiker]

Amsterdam managed to send a twitter tweet at almost the exact time she was "detained "

That guy must NEVER sleep or rest.

He's busy praying for Ukraine " Praying for Ukaine today. We can only hope these sacrifices will one day be afforded justice " and doing work for Kim dotcom

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[richard10365]

hmmmm...kidnapping. I thought that was illegal.

[BestBitterPhuket]

I think that's called kidnapping. Or maybe false imprisonment?

Have the courts granted some extra powers to the guards?

The courts are already operating so far outside their boundaries that soon they will authorize kidnapping as a form of "citizen arrest".