EC is ready to hold tomorrow's election re-runs

[casualbiker]

Yep.... You won't face any more opposition to completing the elections, enough data has now been leaked to confirm that the elections will be voided by the constitutional court and fresh elections held of which the PTP and YL will no longer have caretaker power, and the Dems will absolutely walk into power.

Oh happy days.

The PTP might lose in those circumstances, but I doubt that the Democrats will win. The majority of Thai voters want government spending more evenly spread, meaning out of Bangkok http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/05/10/thailand-public-finance-management-review-report, The elites and the Bangkok voters, who the Democrats are dependent on, want the spending to stay in Bangkok.

Oh, and the Democrats have been calling the majority of the voters buffaloes for too long. Not a good campaign strategy.

Lets put this into context. question . where is the bulk of the government based?

"General government final consumption expenditure (formerly general government consumption) includes all government current expenditures for purchases of goods and services (including compensation of employees). It also includes most expenditures on national defense and security,"

"As the economy has grown over the past three

decades, production has become more concentrated

in the central region and in Bangkok due to proximity

to the port and related supply chains. As production

has become concentrated, the government has made

infrastructure investments and provided social and

ancillary public investments to support the

productive sectors. In addition, as Bangkok is the

administrative capital of the unitary

government and

the major capital city, most of the administrative and

planning functions have been centralized there. As a

result there has been a concentration of public

spending in Bangkok"

source: http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2012/05/09/000333037_20120509003158/Rendered/PDF/685510ESW00PUB0y0Note0master0120501.pdf

[heybruce]

Yep.... You won't face any more opposition to completing the elections, enough data has now been leaked to confirm that the elections will be voided by the constitutional court and fresh elections held of which the PTP and YL will no longer have caretaker power, and the Dems will absolutely walk into power.

Oh happy days.

The PTP might lose in those circumstances, but I doubt that the Democrats will win. The majority of Thai voters want government spending more evenly spread, meaning out of Bangkok http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/05/10/thailand-public-finance-management-review-report, The elites and the Bangkok voters, who the Democrats are dependent on, want the spending to stay in Bangkok.

Oh, and the Democrats have been calling the majority of the voters buffaloes for too long. Not a good campaign strategy.

Lets put this into context. question . where is the bulk of the government based?

"General government final consumption expenditure (formerly general government consumption) includes all government current expenditures for purchases of goods and services (including compensation of employees). It also includes most expenditures on national defense and security,"

"As the economy has grown over the past three

decades, production has become more concentrated

in the central region and in Bangkok due to proximity

to the port and related supply chains. As production

has become concentrated, the government has made

infrastructure investments and provided social and

ancillary public investments to support the

productive sectors. In addition, as Bangkok is the

administrative capital of the unitary

government and

the major capital city, most of the administrative and

planning functions have been centralized there. As a

result there has been a concentration of public

spending in Bangkok"

source: http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2012/05/09/000333037_20120509003158/Rendered/PDF/685510ESW00PUB0y0Note0master0120501.pdf

And, shortly after that paragraph, using your own source:

"Figure 3 shows that although Bangkok accounts for about 17 percent of population and 25.8 percent of GDP, it benefits from about 72.2 percent of total expenditures. This is in sharp contrast to the Northeast which accounts for about 34 percent of population and 11.5 percent of GDP, but received only 5.8 percent of expenditures. Even correcting for the fact that Bangkok is the administrative capital for the country, such concentration of expenditures is extreme."

After that the paper explains the importance of increasing investment in the north and northeast.

So yes, it is natural for Bangkok, the capital, to have higher per capita government spending than the rest of the country. However per capita government spending in Bangkok almost 25 times that in the northeast is indefensible. It also helps explain why Thaksin is so popular in the north and northeast and so loathed in Bangkok, when he took office Bangkok received 90% of investment spending; from the online February 1, 2014 online Economist http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21595453-both-sides-stand-must-back-down-or-risk-their-countrys-disintegration-way-out.

So once again, unless the Democrats want to include promises of significantly more investment in the north and northeast, I can't see them winning an election. Even if they do make that promise, the past buffalo statements will probably hurt their credibility.

[casualbiker]

Yep.... You won't face any more opposition to completing the elections, enough data has now been leaked to confirm that the elections will be voided by the constitutional court and fresh elections held of which the PTP and YL will no longer have caretaker power, and the Dems will absolutely walk into power.

Oh happy days.

The PTP might lose in those circumstances, but I doubt that the Democrats will win. The majority of Thai voters want government spending more evenly spread, meaning out of Bangkok http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/05/10/thailand-public-finance-management-review-report, The elites and the Bangkok voters, who the Democrats are dependent on, want the spending to stay in Bangkok.

Oh, and the Democrats have been calling the majority of the voters buffaloes for too long. Not a good campaign strategy.

Lets put this into context. question . where is the bulk of the government based?

"General government final consumption expenditure (formerly general government consumption) includes all government current expenditures for purchases of goods and services (including compensation of employees). It also includes most expenditures on national defense and security,"

"As the economy has grown over the past three

decades, production has become more concentrated

in the central region and in Bangkok due to proximity

to the port and related supply chains. As production

has become concentrated, the government has made

infrastructure investments and provided social and

ancillary public investments to support the

productive sectors. In addition, as Bangkok is the

administrative capital of the unitary

government and

the major capital city, most of the administrative and

planning functions have been centralized there. As a

result there has been a concentration of public

spending in Bangkok"

source: http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2012/05/09/000333037_20120509003158/Rendered/PDF/685510ESW00PUB0y0Note0master0120501.pdf

And, shortly after that paragraph, using your own source:

"Figure 3 shows that although Bangkok accounts for about 17 percent of population and 25.8 percent of GDP, it benefits from about 72.2 percent of total expenditures. This is in sharp contrast to the Northeast which accounts for about 34 percent of population and 11.5 percent of GDP, but received only 5.8 percent of expenditures. Even correcting for the fact that Bangkok is the administrative capital for the country, such concentration of expenditures is extreme."

After that the paper explains the importance of increasing investment in the north and northeast.

So yes, it is natural for Bangkok, the capital, to have higher per capita government spending than the rest of the country. However per capita government spending in Bangkok almost 25 times that in the northeast is indefensible. It also helps explain why Thaksin is so popular in the north and northeast and so loathed in Bangkok, when he took office Bangkok received 90% of investment spending; from the online February 1, 2014 online Economist http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21595453-both-sides-stand-must-back-down-or-risk-their-countrys-disintegration-way-out.

So once again, unless the Democrats want to include promises of significantly more investment in the north and northeast, I can't see them winning an election. Even if they do make that promise, the past buffalo statements will probably hurt their credibility.

I'm glad you actually read it.. so many don't. And i agree with what you are saying BUT the government is very centralized here more so than in many western countries. Because for example the education budget now includes funds for mandatory schooling up to M3 funded for government schools from the Bangkok.

Funny that i can't find similar reports for European countries etc,

[TheClog]

sometimes situations occur when you need a bit of adult common sense applying rather than childish gerrymandering for the sake of it.

No doubt the CC, although appointed, will take the grown up approach, and apply the 30 days from the completed election.

[ponchi]

we have to STOP this people from vote !!

this is not fair for the THAI people.

every time the thaksin government win.

NOT MORE !! STOP !!

we have to REFORM BEFORE THE ELECTION !!

to make fair.

[Rich teacher]

we have to STOP this people from vote !!

this is not fair for the THAI people.

every time the thaksin government win.

NOT MORE !! STOP !!

we have to REFORM BEFORE THE ELECTION !!

to make fair.

You and your horrible friends have lost. Get over it you yellow bigots!

[ManofReason]

Yep.... You won't face any more opposition to completing the elections, enough data has now been leaked to confirm that the elections will be voided by the constitutional court and fresh elections held of which the PTP and YL will no longer have caretaker power, and the Dems will absolutely walk into power.

Oh happy days.

The PTP might lose in those circumstances, but I doubt that the Democrats will win. The majority of Thai voters want government spending more evenly spread, meaning out of Bangkok http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/05/10/thailand-public-finance-management-review-report, The elites and the Bangkok voters, who the Democrats are dependent on, want the spending to stay in Bangkok.

Oh, and the Democrats have been calling the majority of the voters buffaloes for too long. Not a good campaign strategy.

Lets put this into context. question . where is the bulk of the government based?

"General government final consumption expenditure (formerly general government consumption) includes all government current expenditures for purchases of goods and services (including compensation of employees). It also includes most expenditures on national defense and security,"

"As the economy has grown over the past three

decades, production has become more concentrated

in the central region and in Bangkok due to proximity

to the port and related supply chains. As production

has become concentrated, the government has made

infrastructure investments and provided social and

ancillary public investments to support the

productive sectors. In addition, as Bangkok is the

administrative capital of the unitary

government and

the major capital city, most of the administrative and

planning functions have been centralized there. As a

result there has been a concentration of public

spending in Bangkok"

source: http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2012/05/09/000333037_20120509003158/Rendered/PDF/685510ESW00PUB0y0Note0master0120501.pdf

And, shortly after that paragraph, using your own source:

"Figure 3 shows that although Bangkok accounts for about 17 percent of population and 25.8 percent of GDP, it benefits from about 72.2 percent of total expenditures. This is in sharp contrast to the Northeast which accounts for about 34 percent of population and 11.5 percent of GDP, but received only 5.8 percent of expenditures. Even correcting for the fact that Bangkok is the administrative capital for the country, such concentration of expenditures is extreme."

After that the paper explains the importance of increasing investment in the north and northeast.

So yes, it is natural for Bangkok, the capital, to have higher per capita government spending than the rest of the country. However per capita government spending in Bangkok almost 25 times that in the northeast is indefensible. It also helps explain why Thaksin is so popular in the north and northeast and so loathed in Bangkok, when he took office Bangkok received 90% of investment spending; from the online February 1, 2014 online Economist http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21595453-both-sides-stand-must-back-down-or-risk-their-countrys-disintegration-way-out.

So once again, unless the Democrats want to include promises of significantly more investment in the north and northeast, I can't see them winning an election. Even if they do make that promise, the past buffalo statements will probably hurt their credibility.

Ouch, that shutdown has gotta sting quite a bit casualbiker

[neverdie]

Which 5 provinces

lol.

They're not even sure, that's tomorrow. today is today. Not a good news article, at least they are consistently the same.

[northernjohn]

Yep.... You won't face any more opposition to completing the elections, enough data has now been leaked to confirm that the elections will be voided by the constitutional court and fresh elections held of which the PTP and YL will no longer have caretaker power, and the Dems will absolutely walk into power.

Oh happy days.

The only way the Dems will "absolutely walk into power" is with the help of judges, the army and those who can't be named. They're never going to win an election because they don't have policies to help ordinary people.

Maybe they should offer one tablet for every school kid......the electorate was sucked in by that promise.....still to be fulfilled.......or a subsidised rice scheme could be a good idea....what do you think?

Sounds good to me as long as the tablets are a piece of crap with no useful material on them. I hear that you can get a lot of them out of China and they will give you a kick back.

Edit

I forgot that the rice payments must come in the form of useless voucher's.

Edited March 2, 2014 by northernjohn

[JAG]

we have to STOP this people from vote !!

this is not fair for the THAI people.

every time the thaksin government win.

NOT MORE !! STOP !!

we have to REFORM BEFORE THE ELECTION !!

to make fair.

Possibly the most revealing post throughout this whole affair!

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[dharmabm]

In another thread.. Families of the deceased at Big C have pressed murder charges against her.

No worry. The dem's pdrc/pcad are using children - Shame

ChildrenAtRally.jpg

The shame's yours!!!

Wow, you are scared of the truth. Who exposed these children to danger of being killed?

more importantly, who is killing them?

[pmugghc]

accounding the the constitution, the PTP must form a government within 30 days after the general election. So their deadline is the 3rd. Someone is gonna need to count the vote very quickly!

But, a genuine question, is that to be interpreted as 30 days after the day of the election, or, given the disruption inflicted upon the polls, 30 days after the election is completed?

If the former, then a precedent has been set which will ensure that there will never again be an elected government in Thailand. Surely not what the constitution intends?

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The constitution also says the election must be held on the same day across Thailand. So my guess it's that date they have to count from.

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