Military calls for legal action over sedition; Chalerm insists there's no evidence

[Goat Roper]

There are lots of people from countries within the UK who want independence from Westminster. These days they aren't threatened with the law for expressing their opinion. There comes a time when the knees have to stop jerking in favour of calm discussion.

Why do you refer to the UK? This is southeast Asia, not the west. This is Asia and more specifically Thailand. Either you don't read, pay attention or you have not been in Thailand long enough.

[Robby nz]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

[jayboy]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

Don't be absurd.It was part of Suthep's strategy that the military intervened so that his proposed council of "good people" could take the place of an elected government.Even his supporters don't deny that.

[smileydude]

Why on earth would Chalerm, Thaksin or PTP ever support secession?

It would only mean less honey in the honey pot to stick your hand down.

[Thaddeus]

As only a yellow supporter always see events in a different light so inform me of the evidence you assumed I have not considered!

Please state what "documented facts" the army cited as legal evidence that will stand up to the scrutiny of the legal process, prior to the act of filing charges!

The picture in the first post would be a starter.

[StealthEnergiser]

They can quite easily find evidence when people armed with only a whistle but not this case where there is endless videos of the thugs in action threatening the country.

[exalll]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

Sorry ... what "pro-democracy" entities are you referring to?

I'm assuming you are trying to be serious, and don't honestly think of UDD as "pro-democracy". So ... which ones?

[Robby nz]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

Don't be absurd.It was part of Suthep's strategy that the military intervened so that his proposed council of "good people" could take the place of an elected government.Even his supporters don't deny that.

No mate you are the absurd one, Do you really think that that if the army took over they would give Suthep any place in any administration, no way the military would do it themselves.

I can show you several of his so called supporters who would deny, but of course you never have any proof although you ask others for links.

I have explained how a coup would benefit PT you have just come out with the usual anti Suthep crap.

[SICHONSTEVE]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

The "elected government" dissolved parliament. There are no elected MPs at the moment, only appointed (shudder; how undemocratic can you get!) ministers in caretaker mode. And even their position is moot.

There is nothing apt about your reference to an elected government, it is a figment of your imagination.

The Elected government dissolved parliament, not Thai Democracy and called for a new election as the only way to settle a dispute in the government!

It is definitely a double standard by the Army aided by the ammart owned new media, that can quickly focus on the slightest issue and make it into a national issue, The army best keep its restraints as they can provoke that they say they oppose.

Equal treatment under the law is a requirement for any society and the army attempted prosecution of a entire section of the country based on its misunderstanding what the initials of a group stand for.

While they stood idly by and let the PDRC rape Bangkok for 3-4 months and now want to take legal action against redshirts for their misunderstanding!

Cheers

OK, What about the banners or the bandana's or the flags with the 'monarchy' blue missing and the caretaker government interior minister calling for separation and the mobilisation of 10 million hand gun holders creating an uprising? Plus the formation of a private army of 600,000 young men (to receive training) to fight Thaksin's fight?

So secession is a 'slight' issue is it - I would never have imagined that something alluding to grave national security concerns could be down graded to a slight issue - got to be a world first!!!!

[jayboy]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

Don't be absurd.It was part of Suthep's strategy that the military intervened so that his proposed council of "good people" could take the place of an elected government.Even his supporters don't deny that.

No mate you are the absurd one, Do you really think that that if the army took over they would give Suthep any place in any administration, no way the military would do it themselves.

I can show you several of his so called supporters who would deny, but of course you never have any proof although you ask others for links.

I have explained how a coup would benefit PT you have just come out with the usual anti Suthep crap.[/

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Sorry you should continue your discussion with someone else.Even supporters of the PDRC protest will understand why.It's not an equal match.

But just a comment which even you might grasp.There has never been a possibility that Suthep would have a central role when this phase has been played out.This would be endorsed by his supporters,his opponents and by Suthep himself.

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Edited March 6, 2014 by jayboy

[PepperMe]

Chalerm is now handing out warnings to the 'independent' courts on a daily basis along the lines of, if you rule against us our red shirt terrorists will rise up against you and you will be in trouble.

Surely the man should be arrested for judicial sedition against the courts.

Surely the army should now seriously consider martial law to stamp this out on the basis that anything they hand to the police including charges are just brushed aside on a 'no evidence' basis as long as they are in any way against the government and any person or movement associated with them.

This is a great opportunity to impose martial law and remove the police from anything connected with politics or crimes against the state.

Until I read otherwise, I am condemning the army for being totally useless, and dragging their feet and allowing opportunities pass them by while the country is being set up for a fall and the courts are openly being threatened by a so called director of an agency for peace and order.

[Cnxforever]

"Kasem said the call for secession came from some people who feel society is ignoring them, rather than a serious attempt to partition the country. He said the military had the right attitude toward the political instability, but had failed to check out information about the AFDD's stance before talking about taking legal action."

Gives me hope that there are some people who actually use their brains instead of emotion!

Why would anybody in Thailand entertain the thought of secession? Only out of frustration because the law applies only to certain people and the vast majority of this country are disenfranchised every time the military stages an illegal, unconstitutional coup and slap democracy in the face -only to pardon themselves later for all the crimes they commit - robbing the country again and again.

How many laws have been broken in the last few month and how many people have been held accountable? As long as the root cause of secession talk is not addressed nothing will change. Thai people don't believe in the brainwashing they got when they went to school anymore or the lessons of very selective history they where taught - they have information available on the internet now.

The useless, outdated, old armed forces leadership probably does not even know how to use a smartphone.

The Thai military should keep very quite as they are nothing but a parasite using up resources which could be diverted to much better causes like for the poor and national development.

Nobody needs that blown up body! A waste of tax payers money - with a leadership corrupt to the core - with only one mission to defend the lifestyle of the "Amart".

Thailand could easily do with a small but effective and professional army tailored to the needs of the 21st century.

Instead we have the most generals in the world, airships that don't fly, bomb detectors which are toys, aircraft carriers without planes, coup makers that pardon themselves, intimidating thugs, murderers who are never punished.... But it will probably be another 100 years of extortion by the thieves in uniform until the country can rid itself of this parasites that nobody needs!

If the Thai armed forces cease to exist tomorrow do you think anybody would miss them?

The money could be spent on schools and hospitals, on research institutes and vocational institutions to teach the poor enabling them to make a decent living ....any Baht more that is spend on these parasites is a Baht spend to much!

If Thais who have been brainwashed to the limit in their early years in life talk about splitting up the country - they must have a good reason for it - and if the military leadership fails to see that reason then they should resign tomorrow instead of threatening "legal action" ......or do these idiots still think you can force people to love a country that does nothing for them - but gives everything to the selected few!!???

Edited March 6, 2014 by Cnxforever

[BuddyPinkham]

an AFDD Facebook page was created, which won some 50,000 likes in a few hours and now has more than a million likes, he said.

MORE GOVERNING BY FACEBOOK! Zuckerman must be loving this!

[JRSoul]

"Kasem said the call for secession came from some people who feel society is ignoring them, rather than a serious attempt to partition the country. He said the military had the right attitude toward the political instability, but had failed to check out information about the AFDD's stance before talking about taking legal action."

Gives me hope that there are some people who actually use their brains instead of emotion!

Why would anybody in Thailand entertain the thought of secession? Only out of frustration because the law applies only to certain people and the vast majority of this country are disenfranchised every time the military stages an illegal, unconstitutional coup and slap democracy in the face -only to pardon themselves later for all the crimes they commit - robbing the country again and again.

How many laws have been broken in the last few month and how many people have been held accountable? As long as the root cause of secession talk is not addressed nothing will change. Thai people don't believe in the brainwashing they got when they went to school anymore or the lessons of very selective history they where taught - they have information available on the internet now.

The useless, outdated, old armed forces leadership probably does not even know how to use a smartphone.

The Thai military should keep very quite as they are nothing but a parasite using up resources which could be diverted to much better causes like for the poor and national development.

Nobody needs that blown up body! A waste of tax payers money - with a leadership corrupt to the core - with only one mission to defend the lifestyle of the "Amart".

Thailand could easily do with a small but effective and professional army tailored to the needs of the 21st century.

Instead we have the most generals in the world, airships that don't fly, bomb detectors which are toys, aircraft carriers without planes, coup makers that pardon themselves, intimidating thugs, murderers who are never punished.... But it will probably be another 100 years of extortion by the thieves in uniform until the country can rid itself of this parasites that nobody needs!

If the Thai armed forces cease to exist tomorrow do you think anybody would miss them?

The money could be spent on schools and hospitals, on research institutes and vocational institutions to teach the poor enabling them to make a decent living ....any Baht more that is spend on these parasites is a Baht spend to much!

If Thais who have been brainwashed to the limit in their early years in life talk about splitting up the country - they must have a good reason for it - and if the military leadership fails to see that reason then they should resign tomorrow instead of threatening "legal action" ......or do these idiots still think you can force people to love a country that does nothing for them - but gives everything to the selected few!!???

"The money could be spent on schools and hospitals, on research institutes and vocational institutions to teach the poor enabling them to make a decent living ....any Baht more that is spend on these parasites is a Baht spend to much!"

At last something I can agree with! But isn't it a tad hypocritical to apply this thought to the RTA while supporting the party that blew B800+ billion on a re-election scam? After all, the very top heavy military only cost B143.5 billion and serves a number of useful functions.

[Fryslan boppe]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

"I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS"

Let me never be accused of avoiding a debating point.....I would be happy to answer this question....with regards to a fellow political junkie.

"How could a coup possibly benefit Suthep?".....At risk of being over simplistic to a question for which the answer is self-evident I think, one merely needs to ponder why Suthep and the people who he is fronting for, are agitating against elections, and by extension for a coup.......The same thing they pulled off in 2006 but tried to hide themselves, by blaming it on the military by erroneously calling it a 'military coup'..

They want to depose an elected Govt....Isn't that clear?....If that isn't a coup, what is?......But in a macro sense, in the process of deposing a Govt., they want to do away with elections and run the country with minority rule, based on their non-elective selections.

That is the benefit Suthep and friends are looking for in deposing this Govt.

Any other questions left unanswered?

Edited March 6, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[american12bthai]

the banner in the photo is evidence ..what a tool

yes.

and also the military has better "eyes and ears" equipment than the police.

[than]

Go army, go take action with this dictatorship leader.....

[marcusd]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

are you on severe medication? If not START NOW

Marcusd. Via tapatalk

[Baerboxer]

There are lots of people from countries within the UK who want independence from Westminster. These days they aren't threatened with the law for expressing their opinion. There comes a time when the knees have to stop jerking in favour of calm discussion.

Yes - and the people in the UK don't go around throwing grenades, murdering innocents including children, burning coffins to intimidate people, openly inciting armed rebellion, threatening people "not to come to our towns", and trying to recruit an armed insurgency army. Nor do government ministers, albeit caretaker ones, go on stage with rhetoric to support such actions, If the did so, in the UK or most other countries they would be arrested very quickly.

[Baerboxer]

There are lots of people from countries within the UK who want independence from Westminster. These days they aren't threatened with the law for expressing their opinion. There comes a time when the knees have to stop jerking in favour of calm discussion.

Yes - and the people in the UK don't go around throwing grenades, murdering innocents including children, burning coffins to intimidate people, openly inciting armed rebellion, threatening people "not to come to our towns", and trying to recruit an armed insurgency army. Nor do government ministers, albeit caretaker ones, go on stage with rhetoric to support such actions, If they did so, in the UK or most other countries they would be arrested very quickly.

[Baerboxer]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

I have asked many times how you and your red mates think a coup could possibly benefit Suthep and have not go an answer just the usual coup-monger BS,

The only ones who could possibly benefit from a coup are Thaksin, Yingluck and PT.

They could then scream to the world that a legitimate elected democratic government was overthrown by the military.......again.

As we see the reds are prepared to raise an army to fight any coup a move which would probably degenerate into a civil war, as per the south.

Thaksin cares northing how much death and destruction he causes, as we saw in 2010, if he can not be in power he will do anything to harm those who are.

Don't be absurd.It was part of Suthep's strategy that the military intervened so that his proposed council of "good people" could take the place of an elected government.Even his supporters don't deny that.

I think both sides were surprised by the vast numbers from all strata of Thai society that came out to protest the Amnesty Bill and in particular the crude attempt to whitewash Thaksin and con the people.

There is no doubt Suthep and those backing and controlling him saw this as a golden opportunity and started to hi-jack the protests for their own agenda. At that point I'm sure you are right and quick military intervention is something they hoped for.

As time moved on the Thaksin supporters were attempting to manipulate support from the international community and present themselves as the legitimate government acting responsibly against protesters whilst acting covertly to undermine then, as most government would. As the issues mounted and things began to unravel they tried dissolving parliament hoping re-election with a renewed mandate, however slim, would be enough to regain control. This, as we have seen is all over the place, full of uncertainties and with court rulings on some very wide legal wordings required.

The NACC has also made headway on its corruption probes, the farmers are starting legal actions and may return with more physical protests, there have been murder charges filed against Yingluck, Chalerm, Tharit and others, red shirt leaders and PTP members, including the head of the party, were stupid enough to be caught shouting for separation of the nation and inciting armed rebellion, even recruiting an army.

It's a mess. I think Thaksin would see a coup differently, once the election of 2nd Feb started going pear shape and once the tenure of PTP as caretakers was in doubt, A coup would now give Thaksin and his party the chance to cry "foul". They could claim they were, like him, ousted by the military, and like him, facing lots of criminal charges and investigations. This would be to solicit international sympathy and influence and UN or independent mediators brought in.

A coup would oddly give PTP some opportunities and divert attention from all the current and seemingly growing legal issues.

PTP have a good propaganda machine, Especially for those with short memory. This all started because they acted illegally, cheated and lied in parliament and try to ram through three very important pieces of legislation that would have benefited themselves enormously, The Thai people reacted. They have managed to change that to a scenario of an "elected popular government" clinging on to uphold democracy and look after the people. Unfortunately anybody who doesn't suffer from memory loss isn't fooled.

[northernjohn]

"THE CALL for secession by pro-government groups and red shirts in the north has become a new subject of a dispute, with legal action being sought for the seditious act by the military and the anti-government movement using it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government"

Permit me to say this about that.

This thing reeks of double standards and coup-monger support by the military. Are they saying all that stuff that has been spewed from the Coup-monger stage by you know who, is all sacrosanct? There was NOTHING there with which to pillorize these people about attacks on the current form of Govt. and Democracy?...But somehow that is OK?

And why this mis-characterization about "pro-Govt. groups" when talking about "Pro-Democracy" entities?

And what about this mis-characterization of the coup-mongers as being "anti-Govt.".....They would be on the streets even if the PTP and Ms. Y. were the most effective Govt. and Prime Minister in the history of the world..... Simply because they are not in power.

This is clearly demonstrated in the final words of this quote, using fabricated issues as cover for "it to strengthen its attacks against the caretaker government", or more aptly characterized, as attacks against an elected Govt..

The "elected government" dissolved parliament. There are no elected MPs at the moment, only appointed (shudder; how undemocratic can you get!) ministers in caretaker mode. And even their position is moot.

There is nothing apt about your reference to an elected government, it is a figment of your imagination.

The Elected government dissolved parliament, not Thai Democracy and called for a new election as the only way to settle a dispute in the government!

It is definitely a double standard by the Army aided by the ammart owned new media, that can quickly focus on the slightest issue and make it into a national issue, The army best keep its restraints as they can provoke that they say they oppose.

Equal treatment under the law is a requirement for any society and the army attempted prosecution of a entire section of the country based on its misunderstanding what the initials of a group stand for.

While they stood idly by and let the PDRC rape Bangkok for 3-4 months and now want to take legal action against redshirts for their misunderstanding!

Cheers

"The Elected government dissolved parliament, not Thai Democracy and called for a new election as the only way to settle a dispute in the government!"

Now what are you on about. The PTP was the government. Can't recollect a dispute amoungst them selves. Last vote I believe was 305 to 3. Doesn't sound like a dispute to me. Truly a landslide.

[Scamper]

" At the red-shirt protest rally, Charupong promised all proposals of all hard-core red-shirts made on the stage for implementation. They included the blockading of the office of the National Anti Corruption Commission, and all independent agencies which include Criminal Court, Civil Court and the Election Commission, kidnapping and taking senior officials hostages, and the separation of the country. " ( Thai PBS, March 5 )

If Chalerm is interested in evidence, he need look no further that this. But as Chalerm has now been a private citizen for two days, according to Article 127, he ought to refrain from any statements that imply that he has any more authority than his next door neighbour.

[khunken]

Maybe Chalerm should talk to the supposed PM (instead of Thaksin) about secession:

• Red shirts asked to stop promoting separatism: PM Yingluck

[MGP]

Chalerm needs some eye medicine. Even the Police was celebrating the joy of the separatist banners!

Pictures credit from Facebook iloveu.thailand https://www.facebook.com/iloveu.thailand

Edited March 6, 2014 by MGP

[MGP]

Chalerm needs some eye medicine. Even the Police was celebrating the joy of the separatist banners!

Pictures credit from Facebook I love Thailand: https://www.facebook.com/iloveu.thailand

[oldsailor35]

All this after what Suthep has said and done...........amazing!

[jennywren]

So nice for the Army to show again who they support here.

Won't make anybody bend the knee. Show you are in the PDRC camp.. we all knew anyway.

[Thait Spot]

I'll believe Chalerm when he changes the statute of limitations on murder to 50 years

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[Thaddeus]

I'll believe Chalerm when he changes the statute of limitations on murder to 50 years

I'll believe any Thai politician who proposes that the idea of a statute of limitations is scrapped completely and cases can be held in absentia.