because you can be?

'men are only as faithful as their options' unknown

due to, perhaps genetics, i am certain most, if not all men, thai or farang are butterflies

i know there are exceptions
maybe you had the perfect loving childhood
or a perfect gene match or both

however i loath to lie to any gal that i am anything but
(yet they still get angry when somehow reminded of the fact)

this may well be something no woman or man will ever see eye to eye on

i also find it a bit shocking how the gals can criticize the guys for this but its ok if they do it
'you know, as a job' or something like that (which can not be discussed here)

sorry, if you find this offensive, pleas pass and move along if that is the case
folks please be civil and keep the thread open

Do butterflies grow old alone and lonely?

Anyone have an answer from real life experience?

Don't judge me (or others) by your own personality defects....

I will just say that (in my opinion) the majority of men, given the right circumstance would be a butterfly and settle all be it momentarily on another flower.

It was once said (forget who) that as far as men are concerned "sex is all below the waist", for a woman (excluding professionals) "its all above the neck". Its more emotional and why some women become "bunny boilers" I guess many can remember Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.

This all becomes complicated when relationships and particullarly marriages are concerned. We all know they can get old, stale whatever, but I still maintain that given the right mix of circumstance the majority of men & some women will fail and fall to temptation.

For me, I will just give my personal experience and view, I would NEVER fail or fall, why ? what makes me so perfect ? because I have felt the pain and devastation that it causes when a partner does fail and fall, and I wouldnt wish that experience on anyone, and thats why, NO I would not be a butterfly whilst in a relationship.

But that's just me.

I have also heard it said , that that's why Thai ladies often prefer Western Men because they are NOT Butterflies unlike Thai men (apparently).

Edited March 13, 201412 yr by CharlieH

Allow me to be philosophical for just a minute. I grew up In the hypocritical west, where we're taught to restrained ourselves and not be too obsessed with sex, yet, the images of sex are everywhere. This is probably why most of us grew up horny and see sex with multiple women as the crowning achievement, but not typically attainable.

But in Thailand, sex is readily available, albeit mostly the pay-as-you-go variety. That's why most Thai guys don't brag about their "conquest" because anybody with some baht can get some (wonder why some farang guys feel a need to boast about this all the time?). But even so, the need never seems to stop. I am not married, have had many GFs, but do wonder if I'll ever be able to be faithful to one woman. It's darn hard in Thailand (in a manner of speaking).

In Thailand, the number of Thai and farang guys that I know who mess around are about the same. There's really no distinction between nationalities--sexual desire is the same the world over. But I do believe that it comes down to availability and that if it was more readily available in the west, more guys there would be messing around. No doubt.

Wish i was a butterfly

too fat for the wings to lift me off the ground

Anyone can get on those online porn sites. There are never any guys from Thailand.

Thai guys just don't seem to be into the same things that Farangs are.

No Thai go go's or other unusual places.

Thai men don't strike me as very kinky at all. Lady boys excepted.

Edited March 13, 201412 yr by thailiketoo

Because I can.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

Since I first started coming to Thailand, I've never had any interest in any porn or even live shows.

Why watch when you can do yourself?

Allow me to be philosophical for just a minute. I grew up In the hypocritical west, where we're taught to restrained ourselves and not be too obsessed with sex, yet, the images of sex are everywhere. This is probably why most of us grew up horny and see sex with multiple women as the crowning achievement, but not typically attainable.

But in Thailand, sex is readily available, albeit mostly the pay-as-you-go variety. That's why most Thai guys don't brag about their "conquest" because anybody with some baht can get some (wonder why some farang guys feel a need to boast about this all the time?). But even so, the need never seems to stop. I am not married, have had many GFs, but do wonder if I'll ever be able to be faithful to one woman. It's darn hard in Thailand (in a manner of speaking).

In Thailand, the number of Thai and farang guys that I know who mess around are about the same. There's really no distinction between nationalities--sexual desire is the same the world over. But I do believe that it comes down to availability and that if it was more readily available in the west, more guys there would be messing around. No doubt.

Thai guys brag all the time about their new car, new house, new gold ring.

But anyone with a few Baht can have them too.

Don't understand why purchased women can't be included in the brag list.

Although, to tell the truth, most of the women I purchased in Thailand weren't really bragable material.

But I do agree with you on the availability.

With it on offer so often, hard impossible not to sometimes.

Edited March 13, 201412 yr by FiftyTwo

Because I can.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

Since I first started coming to Thailand, I've never had any interest in any porn or even live shows.

Why watch when you can do yourself?

Or spending countless hours on an anonymous Internet Forum talking about it ?

Crazy.

Because I can.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

Since I first started coming to Thailand, I've never had any interest in any porn or even live shows.

Why watch when you can do yourself?

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

In agreement with my point - few women orient their whole life around their sex organs.

And of course much easier for girls to get laid when they want to, no need for them to have to travel for it.

Because I can.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

Since I first started coming to Thailand, I've never had any interest in any porn or even live shows.

Why watch when you can do yourself?

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

Because they need visa from those countries. Without a sponsor no visa.

I think most here are Moths.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

In agreement with my point - few women orient their whole life around their sex organs.

And of course much easier for girls to get laid when they want to, no need for them to have to travel for it.

True , I have never met a female, no matter how ugly, that was travelling thousands of miles to pay for sex, but males, well let's just say, they do.

All except ThaiVisa members that is.

Edited March 13, 201412 yr by Banzai99

Are you talking about prostitution? Then, yeah, being a butterfly is bad. You pay for what others get free.

And brag about it? Why? Unless you build your own car, house, etc., nobody gets it for free.

Do butterflies grow old alone and lonely?

Anyone have an answer from real life experience?

It's a choice, not a sentence.

I go out with many girls who I meet at different places and situations. I am looking for that special one and until I find her I have to keep sampling.... If a guy is paying for BGs a few times a week then that is a different story, he is just a butterfly for sure.

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Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

In agreement with my point - few women orient their whole life around their sex organs.

And of course much easier for girls to get laid when they want to, no need for them to have to travel for it.

True , I have never met a female, no matter how ugly, that was travelling thousands of miles to pay for sex, but males, well let's just say, they do.

All except ThaiVisa members that is.

You obviously are not traveling to the right places, because I can assure you that it happens.

I think most here are Moths.

Mothra!

Because all the girls I shag really want me.

True , I have never met a female, no matter how ugly, that was travelling thousands of miles to pay for sex, but males, well let's just say, they do.

All except ThaiVisa members that is.

Actually it's quite common in many places.

North Africa, Southern Europe, Caribbean etc. with the 'beach boys'.

Good on all of them I say, better than being a 52 yr old frustrated huffahefalump alone with an empty extra-large size pizza box every night.

On anonymous internet forums people talk down about the Bar Girls and state proudly that their woman is NOT or NEVER has been a bar worker, I have been here since 1990, I used to run a bar, believe me, there are a stack of Farangs who are happily married to ex Bargirls, although they never admit it, really stupid really, don't be ashamed !!

Just because I met my wife at the Tokyo University whilst giving a lecture on astrophysics, she was gorgeous and rich, chased after me endlessly, finally wearing me down till I accepted her, I know you can't all be like me, but never deny what you are or where you come from.

It's pointless, you're only fooling yourselves.

Edited March 13, 201412 yr by 10Yen

Float like a butterfly and sting like a bee

^^ Mine insisted on paying me sinsod.

Balls to the lot, nature wants us to be promiscuous, simple as that.

Allow me to be philosophical for just a minute. I grew up In the hypocritical west, where we're taught to restrained ourselves and not be too obsessed with sex, yet, the images of sex are everywhere. This is probably why most of us grew up horny and see sex with multiple women as the crowning achievement, but not typically attainable.

But in Thailand, sex is readily available, albeit mostly the pay-as-you-go variety. That's why most Thai guys don't brag about their "conquest" because anybody with some baht can get some (wonder why some farang guys feel a need to boast about this all the time?). But even so, the need never seems to stop. I am not married, have had many GFs, but do wonder if I'll ever be able to be faithful to one woman. It's darn hard in Thailand (in a manner of speaking).

In Thailand, the number of Thai and farang guys that I know who mess around are about the same. There's really no distinction between nationalities--sexual desire is the same the world over. But I do believe that it comes down to availability and that if it was more readily available in the west, more guys there would be messing around. No doubt.

Thai guys brag all the time about their new car, new house, new gold ring.

But anyone with a few Baht can have them too.

FiftyTwo, you've already admitted quite adamantly on another thread that you have no Thai guy friends. So how can you possibly know what Thai guys brag about? You, Sir, are making up lies yet again.

Many (most) women love sex for just fun or as a sport once they've permission, it's social taboos holding them back. But I agree it's more rare for them to allow it to take over their whole life.

How many women under 30 move to a different country for sex? I've never even heard of one. A lot of young men here have moved to Thailand because of sex (or a reasonable facsimile). If the men in the West are so handsome why don't Thai ladies move to the West to butterfly?

In agreement with my point - few women orient their whole life around their sex organs.

And of course much easier for girls to get laid when they want to, no need for them to have to travel for it. Or pay.

I used to be a caterpillar.

I used to be a caterpillar.

I used to be a JCB.... fancy a meet up?