Jatuporn, Redshirts promise uprising against coup, appointed PM

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Redshirts Promise Uprising Against Coup, Appointed PM
By Khaosod English


"Respect My Vote" demonstrators at Benchasiri Park, 21 March 2014

BANGKOK: -- Leaders of the Redshirts have threatened to launch widespread protests if Prime Minister Yingluck is ousted by a coup, or replaced with an unelected premier.

"Reporters kept asking me when the Redshirts will enter Bangkok," said Mr. Jatupon Prompan, chairman of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD).

"Let me just say this," he continued, "the day Thailand loses democracy, either by a military coup or the appointment of the so-called neutral Prime Minister, it would be the 'D-Day' for all Redshrits".

His remark followed a key ruling by the Constitutional Court which voids the result of the 2 February general election, citing the constitutional requirement that the election must be held within a single day, whereas election in some provinces had been postponed due to anti-government protesters who were blockading poll venues.

Experts fear that the ruling meant Thailand would lack a functioning government in weeks to come, while Mr. Jatupon said it might pave way for a "vacuum of power" in which Ms. Yingluck would be removed by non-governmental agencies, such as the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC).

The NACC is currently investigating Ms. Yingluck for her alleged role in corruption related to the rice-pledging scheme; if she is ever indicted, Ms. Yingluck would be forced to cease her duties as a Prime Minister.

Mr. Jatupon also denounced those who have been calling for an appointment of a "neutral Prime Minister" to replace Ms. Yingluck.

"I want Mr. Suthep Thaugsuban to just make it clear who he wants to become the neutral PM," Mr. Jatupon said, referring to the secretary-general of the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), "So Thai people can express their feelings to that new PM".

The UDD chairman then went on to warn the military not to launch a coup, as it would have led to a massive resistance by the Redshirts.

"Today Gen. Prayuth Chan-Ocha, the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, turns 60 years old," Mr. Jatupon said in the press conference, "I hope he has a happy birthday, and I hope next year Gen. Prayuth would still be able to move around, and not turned away by the people as a dictator or coup maker".

Meanwhile, Ms. Thida Thavornseth, another core leader of the UDD, called the NACC's pursuing of corruption charge against Ms. Yingluck "a farce", arguing that the investigation is a facade for an attempt to create legal vacuum and replace her with an appointed leader.

Our correspondent added that the first show of strength of the Redshirts following the Constitutional Court's verdict is scheduled to take place tomorrow in Chonburi province, where UDD supporters from various provinces would arrive in the evening on their motorised convoys.

Nevertheless, some Redshirts and other pro-election demonstrators have already held a brief rally to voice their disagreement with the Constitutional Court in Chiang Mai province today, while dozens of pro-election protesters similarly rallied at Benchasiri Park in downtown Bangkok, calling on the establishment to "respect my votes".

Another group of activists also covered the Democracy Monument in Bangkok with enormous black cloths this afternoon to symbolise what they call "a dark day for democracy" in Thailand.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1395408460&section=11


-- Khaosod English 2014-03-22

[tezzainoz]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

[Rich teacher]

As with previous red shirt protests, it will be fully justified. Without them to uphold democracy the country would be run by the judges and army generals.

[Rich teacher]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Those voting for PT were well aware of who was going to be made PM given a PT victory. Duh!

[ChrisY1]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Yingluck was the number 1 on the list for PM...all votors knew this well in advance of the election.

[jcb2001]

As with previous red shirt protests, it will be fully justified. Without them to uphold democracy the country would be run by the judges and army generals.

Fully justified????? How can you justify the Red shirts as democratic when they go around and threaten, bomb, burn, and intimidate the opposition in demanding their legitimate rights are the only ones they will accept. There is no negotiation with the reds. It's their way or no way.

All the courts are saying is what Pheu Thai have done in the past is illegal, (Against the Law of the land).

I do not know how you can call this red protest democratic.

Edited March 22, 2014 by jcb2001

[Yunla]

"Let me just say this," he continued, "the day Thailand loses democracy, either by a military coup or the appointment of the so-called neutral Prime Minister, it would be the 'D-Day' for all Redshrits".

What does the "D" stand for, Jatuporn?

Duped.

[rametindallas]

It's becoming more and more apparent that Jatuporn, Thida, and the UDD are a spent force. After their last rally only drew 6,000 attendees, when it was touted to be 100,000 plus, and their poorly attended 'leaders' meeting (which gloried over the killing of children) it is obvious they no longer have broad support. People are disillusioned with the current government and no longer consider them as representing their interests, as evidenced by the very low turnout in Red districts for the February 2 elections. Jatuporn can shout all he wants but nobody is listening except the news media, those on the payroll, and a hand full of fanatics. All these grand pronouncements he makes and veiled threats are just so much hot air. He is like a barking soi dog; annoying but of no consequence. If it weren't for Dr. Thaksin's continued funding, this organization would have dissipated and vanished already. It only exists now to be used as a stick by Thaksin. So sad that beautiful Thailand is marred my this soi dog's incessant barking.

Edited March 22, 2014 by rametindallas

[Bernard Flint]

It's becoming more and more apparent that Jatuporn, Thida, and the UDD are a spent force. After their last rally only drew 6,000 attendees, when it was touted to be 100,000 plus, and their poorly attended 'leaders' meeting (which gloried over the killing of children) it is obvious they no longer have broad support. People are disillusioned with the current government and no longer consider them as representing their interests, as evidenced by the very low turnout in Red districts for the February 2 elections. Jatuporn can shout all he wants but nobody is listening except the news media, those on the payroll, and a hand full of fanatics. All these grand pronouncements he makes and veiled threats are just so much hot air. He is like a barking soi dog; annoying but of no consequence. If it weren't for Dr. Thaksin's continued funding, this organization would have dissipated and vanished already. It only exists now to be used as a stick by Thaksin. So sad that beautiful Thailand is marred my this soi dog's incessant barking.

I have a bad toothache,but thanks for making me laugh so much

[chainarong]

The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence, if so, he should be charged , excellent statesmen these people , they sure know how to address the people and the problems.

[Chupup]

The Reds wouldn't know Democracy if it bit them in the arse...........hence the headline of this post..........

[Somtamnication]

Neither do the yellows, So who is left?

[Fryslan boppe]

"....widespread protests...."

The operative word here is "widespread".

I'm waiting for developments to develop, but whatever actions the UDD/RS's make, will be widespread....Like in "Everywhere".

In the face of this very blatantly orchestrated attack on Democracy, the elected Govt. and Prime Minister by unelectable Elitist political entities artificially masquerading as pseudo solemn, impartial and respectable Independent Agencies, will indeed be far-reaching.

If they miscalculate and involve the military as well, will be an interesting 'boomerang' to watch.......The facts being that in spite of their guns, the military will be heavily outnumbered everywhere.

Preparations for this sham unfolding of the Amart's plans has been "widely' (there is that word again) anticipated, and prepared for all-over-the-place.

The Amart is in the process of throwing down the gauntlet before the Electoral majority.

Let's all watch and see.

Edited March 22, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[tezzainoz]

Neither do the yellows, So who is left?

who are the yellows?

My Thai wife from Issan was in the protest

and you would have a very sore face if you say to her face she is a Yellow Shirt

They went out of style years ago

This protest was about thai upset "Thai people"

of I see that does not suit your argument

[smedly]

There goes Jutaporn using that buzz word "democracy" again, I'd like him to explain what exactly it means to him because it's obvious he has his own interpretation that only he understands

The reds are all but finished and he knows it, the good honest Thai people will not tolerate this nonsense any more - if it quacks like a duck then it must be a duck but in this case there is no duck just 4 legs gas and horns - people are seeing it for what it is

Tarit charlerm jutaporn and the rest - you couldn't slide a credit card between their cheeks right now, as for yingluk does she really need this ? if I was her I'd turn off my phone and slip away somewhere nice for a while - the only thing she'd have actually done that made any sense

It seems like mass corruption could be coming to an end here and Thailand is about to turn a new chapter with reforms for the good of all the people

[smedly]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Yingluck was the number 1 on the list for PM...all votors knew this well in advance of the election.

and a fine job she has done too ....... right ?

[Fryslan boppe]

The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence, if so, he should be charged , excellent statesmen these people , they sure know how to address the people and the problems.

"The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence..."

Very good and timely question, prompting an answer so clearly obvious when living amongst Red Shirts in a heavily Red Shirt region.

Believe me sincerely, the Red Shirts don't need 'incitement'.....They are already 'incited' to the extreme. Jatuporn's bigger problem will be to tamp down this "incited state' so that it reacts logically and effectively.

Red Shirt 'incitement' has been growing by the day, in concert with the unelectable Elitists unfolding coupist plans via their phony "Independent" organizations.

If the Amart think they are slipping in a coup, that does not appear to be a coup, they don't know the high degree of politicization since the last time they pulled that caper in 2006.

If truth were known, They don't know....In their arrogance, the Amart is still fixated on Educational levels of Thailand's voting majority, and are blinded to what is most significant - their degree of politicization.

[smedly]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Those voting for PT were well aware of who was going to be made PM given a PT victory. Duh!

yes and perhaps you would like to give us all a lesson titled "PTP/Yinglucs" achievements for the last 2 1/2 years of office, please use words like reconciliation - democracy - as often as you like with the odd amnesty - rice - farmers - corruption - lies - law thrown in for good measure

It would be an interesting read

[pmugghc]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Yingluck was the number 1 on the list for PM...all votors knew this well in advance of the election.

Being #1 on the part list vote is not the same as automatically be PM. Example: Somchai

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[smedly]

Neither do the yellows, So who is left?

at some point you're going to tell us all what a yellow is - right ? is this a footy forum am I in the wrong place

[commie Joe]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

The people vote the MPs in to represent them in Government matters which inclueds selection of PM so voted in by the people through their reps

Edited March 22, 2014 by commie Joe

[Chupup]

The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence, if so, he should be charged , excellent statesmen these people , they sure know how to address the people and the problems.

You are so right, as another poster said "it's their way or NO way" Demoracy at its best

[jcb2001]

The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence, if so, he should be charged , excellent statesmen these people , they sure know how to address the people and the problems.

"The question now, is Jatuporn inciting violence..."

Very good and timely question, prompting an answer so clearly obvious when living amongst Red Shirts in a heavily Red Shirt region.

Believe me sincerely, the Red Shirts don't need 'incitement'.....They are already 'incited' to the extreme. Jatuporn's bigger problem will be to tamp down this "incited state' so that it reacts logically and effectively.

Red Shirt 'incitement' has been growing by the day, in concert with the unelectable Elitists unfolding coupist plans via their phony "Independent" organizations.

If the Amart think they are slipping in a coup, that does not appear to be a coup, they don't know the high degree of politicization since the last time they pulled that caper in 2006.

If truth were known, They don't know....In their arrogance, the Amart is still fixated on Educational levels of Thailand's voting majority, and are blinded to what is most significant - their degree of politicization.

I think I understand what you are trying to say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

{Thailand would be best under communism}

I fear this is where Thais are headed.

[PaullyW]

So good at making signs, but have no understanding at all for the concepts represented.

[pkspeaker]

This is DEAD wrong, as soon as we have an 'appointed neutral' PM just wait to see how many people come out, they havn't come out in large numbers because the elected PM hasn't been deposed yet-and they don't want to create even more problems for the embattled government. They are waiting for that redline to be crossed.

The PT has WAY more support than the democrat/pad/pdrc, THAT'S WHY THEY WN ELECTIONS IN A LANDSLIDE , previously the military in partcular bought this line that although the TRT wins elections by a landslide 'they don't have any real empassioned supporters like the pad' this is the fundamental miscalculation that brought the coup on-they thought you could just sort of sweep TRT under the rug and it would just go away, and it was exposed as a farce by 2009 and 2010 when the reds brought even more people out onto the streets than what pad did previously. The democracy supporters in this country have way more support that pad/pdrc which is a sham political organization of neo-facists.

It's becoming more and more apparent that Jatuporn, Thida, and the UDD are a spent force. After their last rally only drew 6,000 attendees, when it was touted to be 100,000 plus, and their poorly attended 'leaders' meeting (which gloried over the killing of children) it is obvious they no longer have broad support. People are disillusioned with the current government and no longer consider them as representing their interests, as evidenced by the very low turnout in Red districts for the February 2 elections. Jatuporn can shout all he wants but nobody is listening except the news media, those on the payroll, and a hand full of fanatics. All these grand pronouncements he makes and veiled threats are just so much hot air. He is like a barking soi dog; annoying but of no consequence. If it weren't for Dr. Thaksin's continued funding, this organization would have dissipated and vanished already. It only exists now to be used as a stick by Thaksin. So sad that beautiful Thailand is marred my this soi dog's incessant barking.

[Robby nz]

Well the army are not going to give Jatuporn the coup he and his paymaster have been doing their best to incite so it looks like plan B has to come into operation.

They will now come out and fight against an appointed PM and of course any reforms that would diminish their ability to rip off the country.

No problem if those they lead (from behind or the other side of the world) die or the country is wrecked in the process.

Power and the ability to enrich themselves must be held on to at any cost.

[phutoie2]

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It's becoming more and more apparent that Jatuporn, Thida, and the UDD are a spent force. After their last rally only drew 6,000 attendees, when it was touted to be 100,000 plus, and their poorly attended 'leaders' meeting (which gloried over the killing of children) it is obvious they no longer have broad support. People are disillusioned with the current government and no longer consider them as representing their interests, as evidenced by the very low turnout in Red districts for the February 2 elections. Jatuporn can shout all he wants but nobody is listening except the news media, those on the payroll, and a hand full of fanatics. All these grand pronouncements he makes and veiled threats are just so much hot air. He is like a barking soi dog; annoying but of no consequence. If it weren't for Dr. Thaksin's continued funding, this organization would have dissipated and vanished already. It only exists now to be used as a stick by Thaksin. So sad that beautiful Thailand is marred my this soi dog's incessant barking.

I have a bad toothache,but thanks for making me laugh so much

Agreed, stopped reading after "spent force"

[gabruce]

Fact

The Thai people did note Vote Yingluck in at the Thai PM

They voted in their local area MP

These MP then voted for Yingluck to represent them as a Figurehead

If at any time these same MP's decide they want to change the PM, this is totally democratic

If at any time the numbers of MP's in the government become less that the opposition

The the opposition MP's have the majority of votes and can vote in their own PM

This is the democratic system used in Western Countries

I wish many posters on TVF and the crazy Red Shirts would get this into their heads

Those voting for PT were well aware of who was going to be made PM given a PT victory. Duh!

The same is true in Canada, however there isn't a requirement that the person named before the election as the likely head of government will be the head of government (Prime Minister in this case). The elected MP's could change their mind and elect someone different than the person the party said would be the Prime MInister. So you are both right.

[Mackie]

As with previous red shirt protests, it will be fully justified. Without them to uphold democracy the country would be run by the judges and army generals.

Abject nonsense. There is no democracy in Thailand. The current regime can be best described as kleptocracy mixed with blatant nepotism from the top to the bottom. It is so obvious that even students with learning difficulties should be able to spot it. Let alone teachers.

The moment you let any country be run by a convicted criminal via social media you automatically lose your credibility and legitimacy. In any western democracy, there is no way the electorate would allow their government to be run by a convicted criminal. The government would be gone. As simple as that.

[Rich teacher]

As with previous red shirt protests, it will be fully justified. Without them to uphold democracy the country would be run by the judges and army generals.

Abject nonsense. There is no democracy in Thailand. The current regime can be best described as kleptocracy mixed with blatant nepotism from the top to the bottom. It is so obvious that even students with learning difficulties should be able to spot it. Let alone teachers.

The moment you let any country be run by a convicted criminal via social media you automatically lose your credibility and legitimacy. In any western democracy, there is no way the electorate would allow their government to be run by a convicted criminal. The government would be gone. As simple as that.

The government wouldn't be run via social media if the PM wasn't overthrown by a military coup & subsequent judicial witch hunt.